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[Overview]

<p>Regice looks like the ideal choice for a special wall; its great defenses (especially its absolutely massive base 200 Special Defense), usable HP, and access to support moves such as Thunder Wave and Gravity all look appealing. However, when you look closer you'll notice that its weaknesses to common attacking types such as Fire, Rock, Steel, and Fighting, crippling weakness to Stealth Rock, and lack of reliable recovery all combine to become quite the major thorn in this iceberg's side. With the correct support, Regice becomes an unequivocal special wall that can counter the likes Rotom, Milotic, and Sceptile with ease, but just make sure to keep Regice away from super effective attacks and Stealth Rock.</p>

[SET]
name: Standard Wall
move 1: Thunder Wave / Toxic
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt / Charge Beam
move 4: Seismic Toss
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm / Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set turns Regice into a good special sponge, capable of taking on a variety of special attackers, crippling them with status, and wearing them down with Regice's decent offenses. Thunder Wave slows down incoming physical attackers, while Toxic helps wear down bulky opponents, especially Water-types such as Milotic and Slowbro. Ice Beam is used for STAB, and comes off of Regice's nice base 100 Special Attack. Thunderbolt and Charge Beam provide excellent type coverage alongside Ice Beam, and Seismic Toss provides consistent damage.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Calm nature along with 252 Defense EVs make Regice extremely bulky, taking both physical and special attacks with relative ease. If you desire a more specially defensive spread, you may shift the Defense EVs into Special Defense and vice versa, though you may consider a Bold nature for a more physically defensive set. Rest may be used in the last slot as it rids Regice of harmful status and fully restores its health; however, when Regice is using Rest, a cleric such as Clefable is recommended as Regice becomes a veritable sitting duck. Explosion may seem unorthodox on a defensive set, although it does deserve a mention as it allows Regice to blow up Fighting- and Fire-types such as Blaziken and Hariyama.</p>

<p>As this set lacks reliable recovery, Regice appreciates Wish support. There are a variety of Pokemon that can provide this, namely Clefable, Leafeon, and Chansey, all of which have good defensive stats and access to other supporting options such as Encore, Baton Pass, and Stealth Rock, respectively. Due to Regice's mediocre typing, you'll need Pokemon that can switch into Fire-, Rock-, Steel-, and Fighting-type attacks. Claydol resists Rock- and Fighting-type attacks, Altaria resists Fire- and Fighting-type attacks, and Moltres resists Fire-, Fighting-, and Steel-type attacks. There are many more teammates to consider, as these are just a few examples. Regice is also weak to Stealth Rock, and the only way to remove it is by using a good Rapid Spinner. Claydol and Donphan both resist Rock-type attacks and have access to Stealth Rock themselves, while Blastoise can switch into Fire- and Steel-type attacks with ease.</p>

<p>Pokemon that can take advantage of Regice's stalling ability are good partners, particularly those with low Special Defense. As for offensive partners, Aggron can take advantage of Regice's high Special Defense and ability to switch into Water- and Ground-type attacks, while it can set up Rock Polish to pummel the opponent and appreciates the paralysis support Regice can provide against faster sweepers. Blaziken appreciates Regice as a switch-in to Water- and Psychic-types such as Slowbro, Milotic, and Alakazam, and Venusaur appreciates Alakazam taken care of as well. As for defensive partners, Weezing is an excellent choice is it only has one weakness, and Regice can switch into most common Psychic-type attacks with ease. Donphan is another good partner as Regice can switch into Water-, Ice-, and Grass-type attacks aimed at it, while Donphan can remove Stealth Rock and switch into Rock-type attacks.</p>

[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Rest
move 2: Sleep Talk
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Seismic Toss / Charge Beam / Thunderbolt
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set attempts to patch up Regice's lack of recovery with Rest and Sleep Talk, turning it into an excellent staller and status absorber; these attributes, along with STAB Ice Beam, make Regice one of the best Venusaur counters around. Rest and Sleep Talk also help recover damage accumulated from entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Ice Beam is used for STAB, and Seismic Toss provides reliable damage, while Thunderbolt or Charge Beam can be used to provide good type coverage with the vaunted "BoltBeam" combination. Toxic or Thunder Wave may be used in the last slot, providing status and supporting Regice's teammates.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>As this set is supposed to stick around for as long as possible, Toxic Spikes are a good option; they poison the opponent’s Pokemon, allowing Regice to wear down and, with Rest and Sleep Talk, stall out bulky Water-types like Milotic as the damage increases to horrifying levels. Pokemon such as Cloyster, Drapion, and Nidoqueen are ideal options to set them up thanks to their good defensive stats and other support options.</p>

<p>Being an Ice-type, Regice comes with a large number of common weaknesses, most notably to Fire-, Fighting-, and Rock-type attacks, so a partner that can switch into these types of attacks is ideal. Rhyperior can switch into most Fire- and Rock-type attacks and set up with Rock Polish, while Slowbro can switch into Fire- and Fighting-type attacks and proceed to do the same with Calm Mind or Trick Room. Other good partners include Milotic, Kabutops, and Moltres.</p>

<p>Due to its weakness to Stealth Rock, Regice requires support from Rapid Spin to be effective; Donphan and Hitmontop are reliable choices as they can switch into Rock-type attacks and pose a decent offensive threat with their STAB attacks. Snover is almost mandatory for this set as it wears down the opponent without damaging Regice; while Blizzard sounds appealing in the hail, the low PP isn't a good idea on a Pokemon that is supposed to be stalling. Finally, this set is stopped cold when Chansey and Registeel appear on the field, especially when Regice lacks Charge Beam to boost its Special Attack. Dugtrio is the best partner to defeat both of these troublesome opponents, since its Arena Trap ability stops them from escaping, while Earthquake completely annihilates them. Strong Fighting-types such as Hariyama and Hitmontop are other good options as they can create big holes in the opponent's team with their STAB attacks.</p>

[SET]
name: Life Orb
move 1: Ice Beam
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Explosion / Rock Polish
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 32 HP / 48 Atk / 252 SpA / 176 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set attempts to use Regice as both a tank and a sweeper; although it's primarily used as a wall, Regice does have a nice base 100 Special Attack, and a pretty good movepool to boot. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt provide excellent type coverage, creating the "BoltBeam" combination, which is only resisted by Lanturn, Shedinja, and Magneton in UU. Focus Blast is used to beat Steel-types like Aggron and Steelix, while Explosion decimates Chansey and Clefable. Alternatively, Rock Polish may be used in the last slot, as it makes Regice a fast sweeper; with Regice’s good defenses, it shouldn’t be too hard to find the time to set up.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>With a Modest nature and 176 Speed EVs, Regice outspeeds Adamant max Speed Rhyperior and 0 Speed Hitmontop. More Speed can be invested if you decide to run Rock Polish, as 244 EVs allow Regice to outrun Jolly Swellow after a Rock Polish boost. 48 Attack EVs allow Regice to OHKO Chansey with Explosion after taking Stealth Rock damage, and the remaining EVs are placed into HP, making Regice a little more bulky while minimizing Life Orb recoil. Substitute may be used in the last slot to avoid status and ease prediction against switch-ins, while Thunder Wave may be used to cripple opposing sweepers. Finally, a Mild nature may be used alongside Explosion to give it some extra power.</p>

<p>Stealth Rock and Spikes are helpful as they weaken opponents that switch into Regice; Chansey is a good example, as Explosion will score an OHKO when Stealth Rock is on the field. Spikes will damage grounded opponents and stack up, helping against Pokemon like Registeel that resist Stealth Rock. Uxie, Donphan, and Claydol can set up Stealth Rock, while Cacturne, Cloyster, and Qwilfish can set up Spikes. Toxic Spikes, which can be set up by Drapion, Nidoqueen, and Qwilfish, are also helpful as they wear down bulky Water-types such as Milotic.</p>

<p>If Regice isn't running Rock Polish, Fire- and Fighting-types such as Moltres, Houndoom, and Hariyama walk all over it. To overcome this problem, Slowbro may be used to take on physical-based attackers, while Slowking fares well against Moltres and Houndoom. Both Slowbro and Slowking have access to Slack Off and Thunder Wave, while STAB Surf and Psychic can deal with Fire- and Fighting-types. On the other hand, without Explosion, Regice faces problems with Chansey and Registeel, though this problem may be tackled by pairing Regice with Dugtrio and its Arena Trap ability, or even a powerful Fighting-type such as Blaziken or Hariyama.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>This iceberg has a pretty good movepool; besides the moves listed Regice can use any one of the following to some degree of success. Regice may use Blizzard if Snover is present, as it will become 100% accurate thanks to the consistent hail brought by Snow Warning. Amnesia may be used to raise Regice's already monster Special Defense, while Curse may be used on a physical set with Avalanche to raise its Attack and Defense. Block can be used alongside a stat boosting move or Toxic to trap the opponent. Focus Punch can be used alongside Substitute, while Hammer Arm can be used to hit Rock- and Steel-types super effectively. Icy Wind can be used to lower the opponent's Speed. Rain Dance can be used with Thunder and Explosion, and Regice's good defenses make it pretty easy to set up. Psych Up allows Regice to copy stat boosts from the opponent, which is especially helpful against Calm Minders such as Slowbro. Lock On may be used with less accurate moves like Zap Cannon, and Gravity may be abused with Earthquake users and low accuracy moves like Thunder and Blizzard.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Slow Fighting-types such as Hariyama or Hitmontop are the best as Thunder Wave isn't too big an issue, while they can hit Regice super effectively with their STAB attacks. Chansey and Clefable can take on any of Regice's sets with their huge HP and Special Defense, but must watch out for Explosion. Lanturn resists the BoltBeam combination and is immune to Electric-type attacks such as Thunder Wave, while it can poison Regice with Toxic and stall it until it faints. Steelix is immune to Thunderbolt and Ice Beam only hits it neutrally, while Gyro Ball hits Regice super effectively. Stealth Rock is a big problem for Regice as it loses a quarter of its health each time it switches in, while Toxic and Toxic Spikes will make Regice's stalling attempts futile. Anything that can survive an Ice Beam or Thunderbolt from Regice and can hit it super effectively can probably be called a counter.</p>
 
Umm, Gravity deserves an OC mention I guess... 100% accurate Blizzard / Thunder / Focus Blast... Other than that this is pretty solid.

If you mention Uxie/Mesprit can Toxic stall Regice.. So does Milotic. It takes 28.5-34.1% from 0 SpA Tbolt, can Toxic Regice back and Recover stall. Just mention watch out for Toxic.
 

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name: Life Orb
move 1: Ice Beam
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Explosion / Rock Polish
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 32 HP / 48 Atk / 252 SpA / 176 Spe

Just changed the spread of this guy to accomplish some extra stuff (and because it had 548 EVs =x). Now it has enough Speed to outpace Adamant Rhyperior and ties with Hitmontops and Cloysters that invest 16 Speed EVs to do the same (of course you could beat them by adding like 8 Speed EVs but speed creeeeeeeep x.x). 44 Attack EVs are needed to OHKO Calm Chansey with Explosion after SR (not factoring in Leftovers, as if it switches into any of its attacks it'll be on KO range anyways), but I gave it 48 because 36 HP EVs would give Regice 310 HP, which means 1 more HP lost on LO recoil; so we could just assume it needs 48 i guess xP. ON an AC note, 224 Speed EVs should be used if Regice has Rock Polish, as it's enough to beat Swellow. Outside of that, approved.
 

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i'd say give rest an AC mention in the standard wall set, since if you pack heal bell/aroma support or if the opponent's physical attackers are weakened it can easily become really hard to take down. it also stops toxic from ruining regice if you lack status healing support. no slash necessary, but a sentence in ac would be nice.
 

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[Overview]

<p>Regice looks like an the ideal choice for a special wall,; its great defenses (especially its absolutely massive base 200 Special Defense), usable HP, and access to support moves such as Thunder Wave and Gravity all look appealing. However, when you look closer you'll notice its weakness to common attacking types such as Fire, Rock, Steel, and Fighting, while a crippling weakness to Stealth Rock, and a lack of reliable recovery all combine to become quite the are a major thorn in this iceberg's side. The main reason to use Regice is to take on special attackers such as Rotom, Milotic, and Sceptile, just watch out for boosted super effective attacks. When supported correctly, Regice acts as a decent sponge and team supporter. With the correct support, Regice becomes an unequivocal special wall that can counter the likes Rotom, Milotic, and Sceptile with ease. Just keep Regice away from super effective attacks and Stealth Rock.</p>

[SET]
name: Standard Wall
move 1: Thunder Wave / Toxic
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt / Charge Beam
move 4: Seismic Toss
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm / Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set turns Regice into a good special sponge, capable of taking on a variety of special attackers and crippling them with status and wearing them down with Regice's decent offenses. Thunder Wave slows down incoming physical attackers, while Toxic helps wear down bulky opponents, especially Water-types such as Milotic and Slowbro. Ice Beam is used for STAB, coming and comes off of Regice's nice base 100 Special Attack,. (period) Thunderbolt and Charge Beam provide excellent type coverage alongside Ice Beam, and Seismic Toss gives provides a consistent damage count.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Calm nature along with 252 Defense EVs make Regice extremely bulky, taking both physical and special attacks with relative ease. If you require a more specially defensive spread, you may shift the Defense EVs into Special Defense and vice versa, though you may consider a Bold nature for a more physically defensive set. Rest may be used in the last slot as it rids Regice of harmful status, while and fully restoring restores its health; however, when Regice is using Rest, a cleric such as Clefable is recommeneded as Regice becomes a veritable sitting duck.</p>

<p>As this set lacks reliable recovery, Regice appreciates Wish support. There are a variety of Pokemon who can provide this, namely Clefable, Leafeon, and Chansey, all of whom have good defensive stats and access to other supporting options such as Encore, Baton Pass, and Stealth Rock, respectively.</p>

<p>Due to Regice's mediocre typing, you'll need Pokemon who can switch into Fire-, Rock-, Steel-, and Fighting-type attacks. Claydol resists Rock- and Fighting-type attacks, Altaria resists Fire- and Fighting-type attacks, and Moltres resists Fire-, Fighting-, and Steel-type attacks. There are many more teammates to consider, though here are just a few examples.</p>
(Combine these two paragraphs please. Also, where the hell is the mention of Rapid Spin support? Stealth Rock is pretty much the reason Regice isn't a top-tier special wall again this generation, so it needs a pretty hefty mention in all of the sets.)

(You might also want to mention teammates who can take advantage of Regice's capability of walling the shit out of every special attacker not named Alakazam (Focus Blast) and Moltres. Also, Explosion may warrant a mention as Regice is a damn fine lure for Fighting-types (Hariyama and Blaziken), Arcanine, and Azumarill. Unorthodox, yes, but still mention-worthy.)

[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Rest
move 2: Sleep Talk
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Seismic Toss / Thunderbolt / Charge Beam
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set attempts to patch up Regice's lack of recovery with Rest and Sleep Talk, turning it into an excellent staller and status absorber; these attributes, along with STAB Ice Beam make Regice one of the best Venusaur counters around. Rest and Sleep Talk also help recover damage accumulated from entry hazards like especially Stealth Rock. Ice Beam is used for STAB, Seismic Toss provides reliable damage, and Thunderbolt or Charge Beam provide good type coverage. Toxic or Thunder Wave may be used in the last slot, providing status and supporting Regice's teammates.(backspace)</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>As this set is supposed to stick around for as long as possible, Toxic Spikes are a good option; not only do they poison the opponent, they help wear down bulky Water-types like Milotic, and with Rest and Sleep talk, the damage will be increasing to horrifying levels. Pokemon such as Cloyster, Drapion, and Nidoqueen are ideal options to set them up thanks to their good defensive stats and other support options.</p>

<p>Being an Ice-type, Regice comes with a large number of common weaknesses, most notably Fire-, Fighting-, and Rock-type attacks, so a partner who can switch into these types is ideal. Rhyperior can switch into most Fire- and Rock-type attacks and set up Rock Polish, while Slowbro can switch into Fire- and Fighting-type attacks and proceed with Calm Mind or Trick Room. Other good partners include Milotic, Kabutops, and Moltres.</p>

(RAPID SPIN SUPPORT PLOX. Also, this set really appreciates Hail support from Snover as it slowly wears down the opponent too along with Toxic Spikes. While you're at it, you might as well mention Hail Stall is a good strategy to form around RestTalk Regice. You might also mention that Chansey walls this set hardcore, well actually it's more like a stalemate, and Registeel can beat it with Iron Head and set up on Regice if it's a CurseRegi, so mention Dugtrio and Fighting-type teammates please.)

(Also, I think Charge Beam needs a bigger mention and probably slash at least over Thunderbolt, because Regice makes a good win condition Pokemon a la Curselax.)

[SET]
name: Life Orb
move 1: Ice Beam
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Explosion / Rock Polish
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 32 HP / 48 Atk / 252 SpA / 176 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set attempts to use Regice as a tank/sweeper; although it's primarily used as a wall, Regice does have a nice base 100 Special Attack, and a pretty good movepool to boot. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt provide excellent type coverage, creating the "BoltBeam" combination, which is only resisted by Lanturn, Shedinja, and Magneton in UU. Focus Blast is used to beat Steel-types like Aggron and Steelix, while Explosion decimates Chansey and Clefable. Alternatively, Rock Polish may be used in the last slot as it makes Regice a fast sweeper, and its good defenses make it much easier to set up.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Modest nature along with 176 Speed EVs allow Regice to outspeed Adamant Rhyperior and neutral Hitmontop; more Speed can he be invested if you decide to run Rock Polish, 244 EVs allows it to outrun Jolly Swellow after a single boost. 48 Attack EVs allow Regice to OHKO Chansey with Explosion after taking Stealth Rock Damage damage, and the remaining EVs are placed into HP, making Regice a little more bulky and reducing Life Orb recoil. Substitute may be used in the last slot to avoid status and predict switch-ins (add hyphen), while Thunder Wave may be used to cripple an opposing sweeper. Finally, a Mild nature may be used alongside Explosion to give it some extra power.</p>

<p>Stealth Rock and Spikes are helpful as they weaken opponents who switch into Regice; Chansey is a good example as Explosion will score an OHKO when Stealth Rock is on the field. Spikes will damage grounded opponents and stack up, dealing more damage the more layers you have. Uxie, Donphan, and Claydol can set up Stealth Rock, while Cacturne, Cloyster, and Qwilfish can set up Spikes. Toxic Spikes are also helpful as they wear down bulky Water-types such as Milotic, these can be set up by Drapion, Nidoqueen, and Qwilfish.</p>

(OK, ummm, Regice needs protection from Moltres, Houndoom, Arcanine, and Fighting-types if it isn't running RP. So Slowbro/king need to be mentioned as a teammate. Even if using RP, Regice can't OHKO Fighting-types, so that needs to be mentioned. Without Explosion, Regice is cock-blocked by Chansey and Registeel, so Dugtrio and Fighting-types need to be partners. Does Regice 2HKO Milotic with Thunderbolt? If not, she's going to be a bitch and stall, so Venusaur or a physically defensive Grass-type needs to be a partner.

[Team Options]

<p>Due to Regice's Ice typing, a Rapid Spinner is recommended; there are many good Rapid Spinners in UU, Claydol and Donphan are two of the best as they have solid defenses, a resistance to Rock-type moves, and the ability to set up their own Stealth Rock. Toxic Spikes are also helpful as they wear down bulkier opponents such as Milotic and Chansey,; they can be set up by Qwilfish, Nidoqueen, or Cloyster. When using entry hazard, be sure to have a spinblocker to keep them on the field,; Mismagius and Rotom are fine choices.</p>

<p>Pokemon who resist Rock-, Fire-, Fighting-, and Steel-type attacks are effective partners. Slowbro is an excellent defensive partner as it can switch into Fire-, Fighting-, and Steel-type attacks with ease, while using and use Slack Off to restore its health or Calm Mind to boost its stats (This is almost precisely the kind of sentence I was talking about. Not only contextually is it impossible to switch into those attacks while healing and setting up, it also splays out the sentence making it sound like a run-on. You have too much info crammed into two clauses which make it seem like you're trying to fit everything into as small a space as possible. There's nothing wrong with being a little wordy and splitting up the info into a few more sentences, trust me.). Altaria can switch into Fighting- and Fire-type attacks and set up Dragon Dance, Claydol can switch into Rock- and Fighting-type attacks and set up Stealth Rock, and Registeel can switch into Steel- and Rock-type attacks and has numerous support options. Flash Fire Pokemon such as Houndoom can switch into Fire-type attacks and gain a free boost, while Ghost-types such as Spiritomb can switch into Fighting-type attacks.</p>

<p>Wish support is helpful as Regice's only means of recovery is Rest, which is often unreliable. Chansey and Clefable can both provide this as they have high HP and Special Defense stats, while they both have good support moves as well (They probably are the worst partners to provide Wish support actually, because not only do they share a Fighting-type weakness with Regice, they also cannot take physical Rock-, Fire-, or Steel-type moves either. I would actually mention Xatu and Leafeon as partners here.). As much as they are good Wish supporters, Regice has trouble getting past them; Fighting-types such as Hariyama can beat them with its STAB Fighting-type moves, Dugtrio can trap them with Arena Trap, and Taunt Mismagius can cripple them and set up Nasty Plot.</p>

<p>Finally, Snover can be considered as it provides permanent hail, making Blizzard 100% accurate, while slowly draining your opponent.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>This Iceberg iceberg has a pretty good movepool,; besides the moves listed Regice can use any one of these the following to some degree of success. Regice may use Blizzard if Snover is present, making it as it will become 100% accurate thanks to the consistent hail brought by Snow Warning. Amnesia may be used to raise Regice's already monster Special Defense, while Curse may be used on a physical set with Avalanche to raise its Attack and Defense. Block can be used alongside a stat boosting move or Toxic to trap the opponent. Focus Punch can be used alongside Substitute, while Hammer Arm can be used to hit Rock- and Steel-type super effectively. Icy Wind can be used to lower the opponent's Speed. Rain Dance can be used with Thunder and Explosion, and Regice's good defenses make it pretty easy to set up. Psych Up allows Regice to steal stat boosts from the opponent, especially helpful against Calm Minders such as Slowbro. Lock On may be used with less accurate moves like Zap Cannon, and Gravity may be abused with Earthquake users and low accuracy moves like Thunder and Blizzard.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Slow Fighting-types such as Hariyama or Hitmontop are the best as Thunder Wave isn't too big an issue, while they can hit Regice super effectively with their STAB attacks. Chansey and Clefable can take on any of Regice's sets with their huge HP and Special Defense, just watch out for Explosion. Lanturn resists the BoltBeam combination and is immune to Electric-type attacks such as Thunder Wave, while it can poison Regice with Toxic and stall it until it faints. Steelix is immune to Thunderbolt and Ice Beam only hits it neutrally, while Gyro Ball hits Regice super effectively. Stealth Rock is a big problem for Regice as it takes a quarter of its health, while Toxic and Toxic Spikes will make Regice's stalling attempts futile. Anything that can survive an Ice Beam or Thunderbolt from Regice and can hit it super effectively can probably be called a counter.</p>


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[Overview]

<p>Regice looks like the ideal choice for a special wall; its great defenses (especially its absolutely massive base 200 Special Defense), usable HP, and access to support moves such as Thunder Wave and Gravity all look appealing. However, when you look closer you'll notice that its weaknesses to common attacking types such as Fire, Rock, Steel, and Fighting, a crippling weakness to Stealth Rock, and a lack of reliable recovery all combine to become quite the major thorn in this iceberg's side. With the correct support, Regice becomes an unequivocal special wall that can counter the likes Rotom, Milotic, and Sceptile with ease, but just make sure to keep Regice away from super effective attacks and Stealth Rock.</p>

[SET]
name: Standard Wall
move 1: Thunder Wave / Toxic
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Thunderbolt / Charge Beam
move 4: Seismic Toss
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm / Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set turns Regice into a good special sponge, capable of taking on a variety of special attackers, and crippling them with status, and wearing them down with Regice's decent offenses. Thunder Wave slows down incoming physical attackers, while Toxic helps wear down bulky opponents, especially Water-types such as Milotic and Slowbro. Ice Beam is used for STAB, and comes off of Regice's nice base 100 Special Attack. Thunderbolt and Charge Beam provide excellent type coverage alongside Ice Beam, and Seismic Toss provides a consistent damage count.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Calm nature along with 252 Defense EVs make Regice extremely bulky, taking both physical and special attacks with relative ease. If you desire a more specially defensive spread, you may shift the Defense EVs into Special Defense and vice versa, though you may consider a Bold nature for a more physically defensive set. Rest may be used in the last slot as it rids Regice of harmful status and fully restores its health; however, when Regice is using Rest, a cleric such as Clefable is recommended as Regice becomes a veritable sitting duck. Explosion may seem unorthodox on a defensive set, although it does deserve a mention as it allows Regice to blow up Fighting- and Fire-types such as Blaziken and Hariyama.</p>

<p>As this set lacks reliable recovery, Regice appreciates Wish support. There are a variety of Pokemon that can provide this, namely Clefable, Leafeon, and Chansey, all of which have good defensive stats and access to other supporting options such as Encore, Baton Pass, and Stealth Rock, respectively. Due to Regice's mediocre typing, you'll need Pokemon that can switch into Fire-, Rock-, Steel-, and Fighting-type attacks. Claydol resists Rock- and Fighting-type attacks, Altaria resists Fire- and Fighting-type attacks, and Moltres resists Fire-, Fighting-, and Steel-type attacks. There are many more teammates to consider, as these are just a few examples. Regice is also weak to Stealth Rock, and the only way to remove it is by using a good Rapid Spinner. Claydol and Donphan both resist Rock-type attacks and have access to Stealth Rock themselves, while Blastoise can switch into Fire- and Steel-type attacks with ease.</p>

<p>Pokemon that can take advantage of Regice's stalling ability are good partners, particularly those with low Special Defense. As for offensive partners, Aggron can take advantage of Regice's high Special Defense and ability to switch into Water- and Ground-type attacks, while it can set up Rock Polish to pummel the opponent and appreciates the paralysis support Regice can provide against faster sweepers. Blaziken appreciates Regice as a switch-in to Water- and Psychic-types such as Slowbro, Milotic, and Alakazam, and Venusaur appreciates Alakazam taken care of as well. As for defensive partners, Weezing is an excellent choice is it only has one weakness, and Regice can switch into most common Psychic-type attacks with ease. Donphan is another good partner as Regice can switch into Water-, Ice-, and Grass-type attacks aimed at it, while Donphan can remove Stealth Rock and switch into Rock-type attacks.</p>

[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Rest
move 2: Sleep Talk
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Seismic Toss / Charge Beam / Thunderbolt
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set attempts to patch up Regice's lack of recovery with Rest and Sleep Talk, turning it into an excellent staller and status absorber; these attributes, along with STAB Ice Beam, make Regice one of the best Venusaur counters around. Rest and Sleep Talk also help recover damage accumulated from entry hazards, especially Stealth Rock. Ice Beam is used for STAB, and Seismic Toss provides reliable damage, while Thunderbolt or Charge Beam can be used to provide good type coverage with the vaunted "BoltBeam" combination. Toxic or Thunder Wave may be used in the last slot, providing status and supporting Regice's teammates.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>As this set is supposed to stick around for as long as possible, Toxic Spikes are a good option; not only do they poison the opponent’s Pokemon, they allowing Regice to wear down and, with Rest and Sleep Talk, stall out bulky Water-types like Milotic ,and with Rest and Sleep Talk, as the damage increases to horrifying levels. Pokemon such as Cloyster, Drapion, and Nidoqueen are ideal options to set them up thanks to their good defensive stats and other support options.</p>

<p>Being an Ice-type, Regice comes with a large number of common weaknesses, most notably to Fire-, Fighting-, and Rock-type attacks, so a partner that can switch into these types of attacks is ideal. Rhyperior can switch into most Fire- and Rock-type attacks and set up with Rock Polish, while Slowbro can switch into Fire- and Fighting-type attacks and proceed to do the same with Calm Mind or Trick Room. Other good partners include Milotic, Kabutops, and Moltres.</p>

<p>Being an Ice-type Due to its weakness to Stealth Rock, Regice requires support from Rapid Spin to be effective; Donphan and Hitmontop are reliable choices as they can switch into Rock-type attacks and pose a decent offensive threat with their STAB attacks. Snover is almost mandatory for this set as it wears down the opponent without damaging Regice; while Blizzard sounds appealing in the hail, the low PP isn't a good idea on a Pokemon that is supposed to be stalling. Toxic Spikes are another thing to consider when using RestTalk Regice as it severely cripples bulky Water-types and Chansey, while the damage worsens as Regice continually restores its health with Rest. [uh, you pretty much said this already in the first paragraph of AC…] Finally, this set is stopped cold when Chansey and Registeel appear on the field, especially when Regice lacks Charge Beam to boost its Special Attack. Dugtrio is the best partner to defeat both of these troublesome opponents, since its Arena Trap ability stops them from escaping, while Earthquake completely annihilates them. Strong Fighting-types such as Hariyama and Hitmontop are other good options as they can create big holes in the opponent's team with their STAB attacks.</p>

[SET]
name: Life Orb
move 1: Ice Beam
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Explosion / Rock Polish
item: Life Orb
nature: Modest
evs: 32 HP / 48 Atk / 252 SpA / 176 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set attempts to use Regice as both a tank and a sweeper; although it's primarily used as a wall, Regice does have a nice base 100 Special Attack, and a pretty good movepool to boot. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt provide excellent type coverage, creating the "BoltBeam" combination, which is only resisted by Lanturn, Shedinja, and Magneton in UU. Focus Blast is used to beat Steel-types like Aggron and Steelix, while Explosion decimates Chansey and Clefable. Alternatively, Rock Polish may be used in the last slot, as it makes Regice a fast sweeper; with Regice’s good defenses, it shouldn’t be too hard to find the time to set up.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>With a Modest nature and 176 Speed EVs, allow Regice outspeeds Adamant max Speed Rhyperior and 0 Speed Hitmontop. More Speed can be invested if you decide to run Rock Polish, as 244 EVs allow Regice to outrun Jolly Swellow after a Rock Polish boost. 48 Attack EVs allow Regice to OHKO Chansey with Explosion after taking Stealth Rock damage, and the remaining EVs are placed into HP, making Regice a little more bulky while minimizing Life Orb recoil. Substitute may be used in the last slot to avoid status and ease prediction against switch-ins, while Thunder Wave may be used to cripple an opposing sweepers. Finally, a Mild nature may be used alongside Explosion to give it some extra power.</p>

<p>Stealth Rock and Spikes are helpful as they weaken opponents that switch into Regice; Chansey is a good example, as Explosion will score an OHKO when Stealth Rock is on the field. Spikes will damage grounded opponents and stack up, helping against Pokemon like Registeel that resist Stealth Rock dealing more damage the more layers you have [you don’t really need to define what the move does lol…]. Uxie, Donphan, and Claydol can set up Stealth Rock, while Cacturne, Cloyster, and Qwilfish can set up Spikes. Toxic Spikes, which can be set up by Drapion, Nidoqueen, and Qwilfish, are also helpful as they wear down bulky Water-types such as Milotic, these can be set up by Drapion, Nidoqueen, and Qwilfish.</p>

<p>If Regice isn't running Rock Polish, Fire- and Fighting-types such as Moltres, Houndoom, and Hariyama walk all over it. To overcome this problem, Slowbro may be used to take on physical-based attackers, while Slowking fares well against Moltres and Houndoom. Both Slowbro and Slowking have access to Slack Off and Thunder Wave, while STAB Surf and Psychic can deal with Fire- and Fighting-types. On the other hand, without Explosion, Regice faces problems with Chansey and Registeel, though this problem may be tackled by pairing Regice with Dugtrio and its Arena Trap ability, or even a powerful Fighting-type such as Blaziken or Hariyama.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Due to Regice's Ice typing, a Rapid Spinner is recommended; there are many good Rapid Spinners in UU, Claydol and Donphan are two of the best as they have solid defenses, a resistance to Rock-type moves, and the ability to set up their own Stealth Rock. Toxic Spikes are also helpful as they wear down bulkier opponents such as Milotic and Chansey; they can be set up by Qwilfish, Nidoqueen, or Cloyster. When using entry hazard, be sure to have a spinblocker to keep them on the field; Mismagius and Rotom are fine choices.</p>

<p>Pokemon who resist Rock-, Fire-, Fighting-, and Steel-type attacks are effective partners, especially those who can provide Wish or Rapid Spin support. Slowbro is an excellent defensive partner as it can switch into Fire-, Fighting-, and Steel-type attacks with ease and use Slack Off to restore its health or Calm Mind to boost its stats. Altaria can switch into Fighting- and Fire-type attacks and set up Dragon Dance, Claydol can switch into Rock- and Fighting-type attacks and set up Stealth Rock, and Registeel can switch into Steel- and Rock-type attacks and has numerous support options. Flash Fire Pokemon such as Houndoom can switch into Fire-type attacks and gain a free boost, while Ghost-types such as Spiritomb can switch into Fighting-type attacks.</p>

<p>Wish support is helpful as Regice's only means of recovery is Rest, which is often unreliable. Xatu and Leafeon can both provide this as they have decent HP and defensive stats, while they both have good support moves as well; on top of that, Xatu also has a 4x resistance to Fighting-type moves. Chansey and Clefable cause a complete standstill for Regice; Fighting-types such as Hariyama can beat them with its STAB Fighting-type moves, Dugtrio can trap them with Arena Trap, and Taunt Mismagius can cripple them and set up Nasty Plot.</p>

<p>Finally, Snover can be considered as it provides permanent hail, making Blizzard 100% accurate, while slowly draining your opponent.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>This iceberg has a pretty good movepool; besides the moves listed Regice can use any one of the following to some degree of success. Regice may use Blizzard if Snover is present, as it will become 100% accurate thanks to the consistent hail brought by Snow Warning. Amnesia may be used to raise Regice's already monster Special Defense, while Curse may be used on a physical set with Avalanche to raise its Attack and Defense. Block can be used alongside a stat boosting move or Toxic to trap the opponent. Focus Punch can be used alongside Substitute, while Hammer Arm can be used to hit Rock- and Steel-types super effectively. Icy Wind can be used to lower the opponent's Speed. Rain Dance can be used with Thunder and Explosion, and Regice's good defenses make it pretty easy to set up. Psych Up allows Regice to copy stat boosts from the opponent, which is especially helpful against Calm Minders such as Slowbro. Lock On may be used with less accurate moves like Zap Cannon, and Gravity may be abused with Earthquake users and low accuracy moves like Thunder and Blizzard.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Slow Fighting-types such as Hariyama or Hitmontop are the best as Thunder Wave isn't too big an issue, while they can hit Regice super effectively with their STAB attacks. Chansey and Clefable can take on any of Regice's sets with their huge HP and Special Defense, but must watch out for Explosion. Lanturn resists the BoltBeam combination and is immune to Electric-type attacks such as Thunder Wave, while it can poison Regice with Toxic and stall it until it faints. Steelix is immune to Thunderbolt and Ice Beam only hits it neutrally, while Gyro Ball hits Regice super effectively. Stealth Rock is a big problem for Regice as it loses a quarter of its health each time it switches in, while Toxic and Toxic Spikes will make Regice's stalling attempts futile. Anything that can survive an Ice Beam or Thunderbolt from Regice and can hit it super effectively can probably be called a counter.</p>


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