Altaria (Update) (QC 3/3) (GP 2/2) (Taken Over) (Written)

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[Overview]

<p>Altaria would seem like a great choice in a tier with few Dragon-type Pokemon. However, past its appealing defensive stats, there is little incentive to use it. Altaria has horrible weaknesses to Rock- and Ice-type attacks which curb its otherwise great bulk immensely. A Dragon Dance set with Altaria seems promising, but then you compare it to Fraxure and Dragonair, and it simply pales in comparison; Fraxure has more power, whilst Dragonair has ExtremeSpeed and isn't weak to Stealth Rock. Still, Altaria does have unique access to supportive and defensive options such as Heal Bell and Roost, as well as Leftovers (since its competition needs Eviolite to function). It's also the only specially based Dragon-type Pokemon in NU, and powerful moves such as Draco Meteor and Fire Blast make up for its poor offensive stats. Overall though, Altaria is still a rather lackluster choice.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Dragon Pulse
move 4: Rest
item: Choice Specs
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Generally considered to be Altaria's best set, Choice Specs allows it to fully utilize Draco Meteor's huge 140 Base Power (210 including STAB) to power through most of the tier. Altaria's good natural bulk allows it to switch in quite easily, forcing switches it can punish with a Choice-boosted attack. The lack of Steel-Types in NU makes Draco Meteor the go-to move early, while Dragon Pulse's reliability makes it useful for late-game cleanup. For the few Steel-types that are around, such as Metang, Fire Blast is used. Rest, while normally odd on a Choice set, works well thanks to Natural Cure and Altaria's good bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria uses a Modest nature to maximize its damage output, and doesn't miss out on outspeeding anything significant with a neutral Speed nature. Modest actually 2HKOes Misdreavus after Stealth Rock and OHKOes Samurott without any prior damage, two dangerous threats in NU. Hidden Power Ground can hit Probopass and Bastiodon, but it misses the 2HKO on the far more common Metang. Cloud Nine can be used to check rain abusers such as Ludicolo, but most of the time Natural Cure is superior. Life Orb can also be used, with Roost over Rest. This allows Altaria to stay in battle longer as it won't be locked into a move, but the loss of power is notable. Steel-types have fantastic synergy with Altaria and they can set up the ever-coveted Stealth Rock. Strong Fighting-type Pokemon such as Sawk and Primeape can help Altaria clear out problematic special walls, and Sawk can also stop the opponent from abusing Altaria's Stealth Rock weakness by OHKOing many hazard setters. Altaria can also support Pokemon such as Swords Dance Samurott and Shell Smash Carracosta, both of which enjoy Altaria clearing out the physical walls that would otherwise block them.</p>

[SET]
name: Bulky Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Roost
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Substitute / Heal Bell
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Careful
evs: 248 HP / 196 SpD / 64 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria is rather outclassed at using Dragon Dance, but it still has some advantages, the most apparent being the general bulk that Altaria possesses. Furthermore, it doesn't use Eviolite, but instead uses Leftovers for a little recovery every turn, and also has access to Roost, a more reliable recovery move for when you're in a pinch. Dragon Dance boosts Altaria's low Attack and decent Speed to deadly levels, but it requires quite a lot of setup. As such, Altaria will be forced into Roosting a lot, so Dragon Claw is used rather than Outrage so that Altaria isn't locked into attacks and doesn't get confused. Substitute shields it from status ailments and revenge killing, and also helps Altaria boost more efficiently. Heal Bell also shields both Altaria and your team from status, but it leaves Altaria prone to to being revenge killed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Before boosting, Altaria can outspeed offensive Torterra, and after a boost it can outspeed base 95 Speed Pokemon, such as Jynx. Everything else is invested into special bulk, Altaria's stronger defense, so that it has more opportunities to set up. A more offensive spread, while possible, would be outclassed by Fraxure. Safeguard is an interesting option to prevent status for a few turns, but Heal Bell and Substitute have more general utility. Earthquake gives fantastic coverage, but there is no room on this set to use it. Toxic lets you set up on walls whilst actually doing damage, but once again, there is no room; this does mean that Altaria loves Toxic Spikes support. Good Toxic Spikes users include Garbodor, Roselia, and Scolipede. Altaria struggles against Rock-type Pokemon, so Pokemon that beat them, such as Alomomola, who provides Wish and Toxic support, and Wartortle, who spins Stealth Rocks away for Altaria, are good partners. Special Samurott is a good offensive partner which not only deals with Rock-type Pokemon, but also Metang. Altaria is also a good win condition on bulkier teams.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>A support set looks good, but Altaria is Stealth Rock weak. Choice Band also looks good, but it is worse than Choice Specs and Outrage locks Altaria into the attack. Mixed attacking also looks viable, but Altaria's stats simply aren't good enough to spread EVs this way. Roar on bulky Dragon Dance looks decent, but you are left very susceptible to status ailments. A gimmicky Draco Meteor with Haze or Power Swap is fun to use but difficult to pull off. Cotton Guard can make Altaria incredibly bulky physically; this can work well with Dragon Dance to give Altaria many setup opportunities, but still leaves its Ice Beam weakness unresolved. Agility isn't as good as Dragon Dance since Altaria doesn't have very good base offense. Tailwind is a good support move, but Pokemon such as Braviary and Charizard are generally better Tailwind users. Similarly, other Pokemon tend to outperform Altaria as a Rain Dance or Sunny Day user. Altaria has access to Pursuit, but that is only useful against Haunter, and even then does not guarantee a kill.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Altaria's counters really depends on which set you are using. Special walls such as Lickilicky and Audino wall Choice Specs, while Physical walls such as as Tangela and Regirock beat the Dragon Dance set. Regice counters both sets well as it is bulky on both sides and swiftly OHKOes with Ice Beam. In fact, any Pokemon that commonly uses Ice-type attacks can be a check to Altaria, such as Jynx and many Water- and Electric-type Pokemon. Rock-type Pokemon wall Altaria well, particularly Regirock who can take a Draco Meteor and KO back with Stone Edge. Golem breaks Substitute with Rock Blast. Steel-types wall Altaria's Dragon-type moves, but Altaria's movesets tends to prepare for them so be careful. Its low offensive stats can be taken advantage of easily, particularly while Altaria is at -2 from a Draco Meteor; Musharna and Braviary set up on it rather easily. Altaria is also weak to Stealth Rock, which often makes its hit-and-run strategies inadvisable.</p>
 
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[Overview]
  • The first sentence oversells Altaria a bit. Altaria really isn't the greatest Dragon in NU, I'd personally give that to Fraxure or w/e. Anyway, reword the first two sentences to just say how it doesn't function as well as it does on paper.
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] (Specs)
  • When saying that Taria 2HKOes Missy, mention specifically it 2HKOes (with -2 drop factored in) after SR.
  • Don't say LO Roost makes Taria "bulkier." Say it lets Taria stay in for longer periods of time since it's not locked into a move.
Implement these, and I'll stamp.
 
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[Overview]

<p>Altaria would look like a great choice in a tier with few Dragon-Ttype Pokemon, however,(AC) looking past it'(apostrophe)s appealing stats and you find several reasons not to use it. Altaria has horrible weaknesses to Rock- and Ice-Ttype attacks which hurt it'(apostrophe)s great bulk immensely. Dragon Dance looks good, but then you see Fraxure and Dragonair, which give it a lot of competition. Fraxure has more power, whilst Dragonair has ExtremeSpeed and isn't weak to Stealth Rock. Altaria does, however, have nice support options in Heal Bell and Roost, as well as Leftovers, since it'(apostrophe)s competition needs Eviolite. It is , and it's also the only Specially-Attacking specially based Dragon-Ttype Pokemon in NU. Moves such as Draco Meteor and Fire Blast make up for it'(apostrophe)s poor offensive stats, however it but Altaria is still rather lackluster overall.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Dragon Pulse
move 4: Rest
item: Choice Specs
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Generally considered to be Altaria's best set, it uses Choice Specs allows it to fully utilize Draco Meteor's huge base 140 power 140 Base Power, 210 including STAB, to hurt most of the tier. It has good natural bulk which lets it switch in quite easily;,(AC) forcing things out and hitting the switch-ins hard with Draco Meteor. There are also so few Steel-Types in NU which would resist Draco Meteor. For the Steel-Ttypes that are around, such as Metang, Fire Blast is used. Dragon Pulse gives it a second option to use and is particularly good late-game to clean. Rest is odd on a choice-locked Choice set, but thanks to Natural Cure and good bulk it works well.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria uses a Modest nature to maximize it'(apostrophe)s power, and it doesn't miss out on out(remove space)speeding anything it needs to significant. Modest actually 2HKOes Misdreavus (after Stealth Rock) and OHKOes Samurott (without Stealth Rock) without any prior damage, two dangerous threats in NU. Hidden Power Ground can hit Probopass and Bastiodon, but it misses the 2HKO on the far more common Metang. Cloud Nine can be used to check rain abusers such as Ludicolo, but most of the time Natural Cure is superior. Life Orb can also be used, with Roost over Rest. This makes Altaria able to stay in battle longer as it is not locked into a move, but the loss of power is notable. Steel-Ttypes have fantastic synergy with Altaria and they can set up the ever-coveted Stealth Rock. Strong Fighting-Ttype Pokemon such as Sawk and Primeape clear out the Sspecial walls to let Altaria clean, and Sawk can also stop the opponent from abusing Altaria's Stealth Rock weakness thanks to Mold Breaker allowing Sawk to OHKO many hazard setters. Altaria can also support Pokemon such as Swords Dance Samurott and Shell Smash Carracosta, who both of which enjoy Altaria clearing out the Pphysical Wwalls that would otherwise block them.</p>

[SET]
name: Bulky Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Roost
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Substitute / Heal Bell
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Careful
evs: 248 HP / 196 SpD / 64 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria is rather outclassed at using Dragon Dance, but it still has some niches;,(AC) the most apparent being the general bulkiness that Altaria possesses. Unlike the aforementioned competition of Fraxure and Dragonair (note: I think there was something about not mentioning prior sets in case they change, i'll let someone more experienced handle it),(AC) it doesn't use Eviolite, it but instead uses Leftovers for a little recovery every turn, and it also has access to Roost, a more reliable recovery move for when you're in a pinch. It also has Heal Bell to support it's team. Dragon Dance boosts Altaria's low Attack and decent-at-best Speed to become quite deadly, but it requires quite a lot of setup. As Altaria will be using Roost a lot, Dragon Claw is used rather than Outrage so that Altaria isn't locked into attacks and doesn't get confused. Substitute shields you it from status ailments and revenge killing, and it also helps Altaria boost more efficiently. Heal Bell also shields status from both yourself Altaria and your team from status, but it leaves Altaria prone to revenge-killing to being revenge killed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Before boosting, Altaria can outspeed offensive Torterra, and after a boost it can out(remove space)speed base 95 sSpeed Pokemon, such as Jynx. Everything else is invested into Sspecial Bbulk, Altaria's stronger defense, so that it has more opportunities to set up. Being more offensive makes you it outclassed by Fraxure. Safeguard is an interesting option to prevent status permanently for a few turns, but Heal Bell and Substitute have more general utility. Earthquake gives fantastic coverage, but there is no room on this set to use it. Toxic lets you set up on walls whilst actually doing damage, but once again, there is no room; this does mean that Altaria loves Toxic Spikes support. Good Toxic Spikes users include Garbodor, Roselia,(AC) and Scolipede. Altaria struggles against Rock-Ttype Pokemon, so Pokemon who that beat them,(AC) such as Alomomola, who provides Wish and Toxic support, and Wartortle, who spins Stealth Rocks away for Altaria, are good partners. Special Samurott is a good offensive partner who which not only deals with Rock-Ttype Pokemon, but also Metang. Altaria is also a good win condition on bulkier teams.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>A support set looks good, but Altaria is Stealth Rock weak. Choice Band also looks good, but it is worse than Choice Specs and Outrage locks you Altaria into the attack. Mixed attacking also looks viable, but Altaria's stats simply aren't good enough. Roar on bulky Dragon Dance looks decent, but you are left very susceptible to status ailments. A gimmicky Draco Meteor with Haze or Power Swap is fun to use but difficult to pull off..(extra period) Cotton Guard makes you Altaria incredibly bulky physically, but Altaria is still weak to Ice Beam; this can work well with Dragon Dance to give Altaria many set(remove space)up opportunities. Agility isn't as good as Dragon Dance since Altaria doesn't have very good Attack. Tailwind is a good support move, but Pokemon such as Braviary and Charizard are better at it. Altaria also learns Rain Dance and Sunny Day, but other Pokemon do it better. Altaria has access to Pursuit, but that is only useful for Haunter, who which can live it.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>(remove space)Altaria's counters really depends on which set you are using. Special walls such as Lickilicky and Audino wall Choice Specs, whilste Physical walls such(space)as as Tangela and Regirock beat the Dragon Dance set. Regice counters both sets well as it is bulky on both sides and swiftly OHKOs with Ice Beam. Pokemon that commonly use Ice-Ttype attacks such as Jynx,(RC) and Water- and Electric-Ttype Pokemon hit Altaria hard. Rock-Ttype Pokemon wall Altaria well, particularly Regirock who can take a Draco Meteor and KO back with Stone Edge. Golem breaks Substitute with Rock Blast. Steel-Ttypes wall it'(apostrophe)s Dragon-Ttype moves, but Altaria does use Fire Blast and occasionally Earthquake, so be careful. Low offensive stats can be taken advantage of easily, particularly whilste Altaria is at -2 from a Draco Meteor. Because of this, Musharna and Braviary set up on it rather easily. Altaria is also weak to Steatlh Rock, and the strategy of Altaria is to hit hard with Draco Meteor and switch out, meaning that this weakness is fatal.</p>


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[Overview]

<p>Altaria would look like a great choice in a tier with few Dragon-type Pokemon, however, looking past its appealing stats and you find several reasons not to use it. Altaria has horrible weaknesses to Rock- and Ice-type attacks which hurt its great bulk immensely. Dragon Dance looks good, but then you see Fraxure and Dragonair, which give it a lot of competition. Fraxure has more power, whilst Dragonair has ExtremeSpeed and isn't weak to Stealth Rock. Altaria does, however, have nice support options in Heal Bell and Roost, as well as Leftovers, since its competition needs Eviolite, and it's also the only specially based Dragon-type Pokemon in NU. Moves such as Draco Meteor and Fire Blast make up for its poor offensive stats, but Altaria is still rather lackluster overall.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Dragon Pulse
move 4: Rest
item: Choice Specs
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Generally considered to be Altaria's best set, Choice Specs allows it to fully utilize Draco Meteor's huge 140 Base Power, 210 including STAB, to hurt most of the tier. It has good natural bulk which lets it switch in quite easily, forcing things out and hitting the switch-ins hard with Draco Meteor. There are also so few Steel-Types in NU which resist Draco Meteor. For the Steel-types that are around, such as Metang, Fire Blast is used. Dragon Pulse gives it a second option to use and is particularly good late-game to clean. Rest is odd on a Choice set, but thanks to Natural Cure and good bulk it works well.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria uses a Modest nature to maximize its power, and it doesn't miss out on outspeeding anything significant. Modest actually 2HKOes Misdreavus after Stealth Rock and OHKOes Samurott without any prior damage, two dangerous threats in NU. Hidden Power Ground can hit Probopass and Bastiodon, but it misses the 2HKO on the far more common Metang. Cloud Nine can be used to check rain abusers such as Ludicolo, but most of the time Natural Cure is superior. Life Orb can also be used, with Roost over Rest. This makes Altaria able to stay in battle longer as it is not locked into a move, but the loss of power is notable. Steel-types have fantastic synergy with Altaria and they can set up the ever-coveted Stealth Rock. Strong Fighting-type Pokemon such as Sawk and Primeape clear out the special walls to let Altaria clean, and Sawk can also stop the opponent from abusing Altaria's Stealth Rock weakness thanks to Mold Breaker allowing Sawk to OHKO many hazard setters. Altaria can also support Pokemon such as Swords Dance Samurott and Shell Smash Carracosta, both of which enjoy Altaria clearing out the physical walls that would otherwise block them.</p>

[SET]
name: Bulky Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Roost
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Substitute / Heal Bell
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Careful
evs: 248 HP / 196 SpD / 64 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria is rather outclassed at using Dragon Dance, but it still has some niches, the most apparent being the general bulk that Altaria possesses. Unlike the aforementioned competition of , it doesn't use Eviolite, but instead uses Leftovers for a little recovery every turn, and it also has access to Roost, a more reliable recovery move for when you're in a pinch. It also has Heal Bell to support it's team. Dragon Dance boosts Altaria's low Attack and decent-at-best Speed to become quite deadly, but it requires quite a lot of setup. As Altaria will be using Roost a lot, Dragon Claw is used rather than Outrage so that Altaria isn't locked into attacks and doesn't get confused. Substitute shields it from status ailments and revenge killing, and it also helps Altaria boost more efficiently. Heal Bell also shields both Altaria and your team from status, but it leaves Altaria prone to to being revenge killed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Before boosting, Altaria can outspeed offensive Torterra, and after a boost it can outspeed base 95 Speed Pokemon, such as Jynx. Everything else is invested into special bulk, Altaria's stronger defense, so that it has more opportunities to set up. Being more offensive makes it outclassed by Fraxure. Safeguard is an interesting option to prevent status for a few turns, but Heal Bell and Substitute have more general utility. Earthquake gives fantastic coverage, but there is no room on this set to use it. Toxic lets you set up on walls whilst actually doing damage, but once again, there is no room; this does mean that Altaria loves Toxic Spikes support. Good Toxic Spikes users include Garbodor, Roselia, and Scolipede. Altaria struggles against Rock-type Pokemon, so Pokemon that beat them, such as Alomomola, who provides Wish and Toxic support, and Wartortle, who spins Stealth Rocks away for Altaria, are good partners. Special Samurott is a good offensive partner which not only deals with Rock-type Pokemon, but also Metang. Altaria is also a good win condition on bulkier teams.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>A support set looks good, but Altaria is Stealth Rock weak. Choice Band also looks good, but it is worse than Choice Specs and Outrage locks Altaria into the attack. Mixed attacking also looks viable, but Altaria's stats simply aren't good enough. Roar on bulky Dragon Dance looks decent, but you are left very susceptible to status ailments. A gimmicky Draco Meteor with Haze or Power Swap is fun to use but difficult to pull off. Cotton Guard makes Altaria incredibly bulky physically, but Altaria is still weak to Ice Beam; this can work well with Dragon Dance to give Altaria many setup opportunities. Agility isn't as good as Dragon Dance since Altaria doesn't have very good Attack. Tailwind is a good support move, but Pokemon such as Braviary and Charizard are better at it. Altaria also learns Rain Dance and Sunny Day, but other Pokemon do it better. Altaria has access to Pursuit, but that is only useful for Haunter, which can live it.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Altaria's counters really depends on which set you are using. Special walls such as Lickilicky and Audino wall Choice Specs, while Physical walls suchas as Tangela and Regirock beat the Dragon Dance set. Regice counters both sets well as it is bulky on both sides and swiftly OHKOs with Ice Beam. Pokemon that commonly use Ice-type attacks such as Jynx and Water- and Electric-type Pokemon hit Altaria hard. Rock-type Pokemon wall Altaria well, particularly Regirock who can take a Draco Meteor and KO back with Stone Edge. Golem breaks Substitute with Rock Blast. Steel-types wall its Dragon-type moves, but Altaria does use Fire Blast and occasionally Earthquake, so be careful. Low offensive stats can be taken advantage of easily, particularly while Altaria is at -2 from a Draco Meteor. Because of this, Musharna and Braviary set up on it rather easily. Altaria is also weak to Steatlh Rock, and the strategy of Altaria is to hit hard with Draco Meteor and switch out, meaning that this weakness is fatal.</p>


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[Overview]
<p>Altaria would seem like a great choice in a tier with few Dragon-type Pokemon. However, looking past its appealing defensive stats, there is little incentive to use it. Altaria has horrible weaknesses to Rock- and Ice-type attacks which curb its otherwise great bulk immensely. A Dragon Dance set with Altaria seems promising, but then you compare it to Fraxure and Dragonair, and it simply pales in comparison; Fraxure has more power, whilst Dragonair has ExtremeSpeed and isn't weak to Stealth Rock. Still, Altaria does, however, have unique access to supportive and defensive options such as Heal Bell and Roost, as well as Leftovers (since its competition needs Eviolite to function). It's also the only specially based Dragon-type Pokemon in NU, and powerful moves such as Draco Meteor and Fire Blast make up for its poor offensive stats. Overall though, Altaria is still a rather lackluster choice overall.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Dragon Pulse
move 4: Rest
item: Choice Specs
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Generally considered to be Altaria's best set, Choice Specs allows it to fully utilize Draco Meteor's huge 140 Base Power (210 including STAB) to power through most of the tier. Altaria's good natural bulk
which allows it to switch in quite easily, forcing switches it can punish with a Choice-boosted attack. The lack of Steel-Types in NU makes Draco Meteor the go-to move early, while Dragon Pulse's reliability makes it useful for late-game cleanup. For the few Steel-types that are around, such as Metang, Fire Blast is used. Dragon Pulse gives it a second option to use and is particularly good late-game to clean. Rest, while normally odd on a Choice set, works well thanks to Natural Cure and Altaria's good bulk it works well.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria uses a Modest nature to maximize its damage output, and
it doesn't miss out on outspeeding anything significant with a neutral Speed nature. Modest actually 2HKOes Misdreavus after Stealth Rock and OHKOes Samurott without any prior damage, two dangerous threats in NU. Hidden Power Ground can hit Probopass and Bastiodon, but it misses the 2HKO on the far more common Metang. Cloud Nine can be used to check rain abusers such as Ludicolo, but most of the time Natural Cure is superior. Life Orb can also be used, with Roost over Rest. This allows Altaria to stay in battle longer as it won't be locked into a move, but the loss of power is notable. Steel-types have fantastic synergy with Altaria and they can set up the ever-coveted Stealth Rock. Strong Fighting-type Pokemon such as Sawk and Primeape can help Altaria clear out problematic special walls to let Altaria clean, and Sawk can also stop the opponent from abusing Altaria's Stealth Rock weakness thanks to Mold Breaker allowing Sawk to by OHKOing many hazard setters. Altaria can also support Pokemon such as Swords Dance Samurott and Shell Smash Carracosta, both of which enjoy Altaria clearing out the physical walls that would otherwise block them.</p>

[SET]
name: Bulky Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Roost
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Substitute / Heal Bell
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Careful
evs: 248 HP / 196 SpD / 64 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria is rather outclassed at using Dragon Dance, but it still has some advantages, the most apparent being the general bulk that Altaria possesses. Furthermore, it doesn't use Eviolite, but instead uses Leftovers for a little recovery every turn, and
it also has access to Roost, a more reliable recovery move for when you're in a pinch. It also has Heal Bell to support it's team. Dragon Dance boosts Altaria's low Attack and decent-at-best Speed to become quite deadly levels, but it requires quite a lot of setup. As such, Altaria will be forced into Roosting a lot, so Dragon Claw is used rather than Outrage so that Altaria isn't locked into attacks and doesn't get confused. Substitute shields it from status ailments and revenge killing, and it also helps Altaria boost more efficiently. Heal Bell also shields both Altaria and your team from status, but it leaves Altaria prone to to being revenge killed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Before boosting, Altaria can outspeed offensive Torterra, and after a boost it can outspeed base 95 Speed Pokemon, such as Jynx. Everything else is invested into special bulk, Altaria's stronger defense, so that it has more opportunities to set up. A more offensive spread, while possible, would be outclassed by Fraxure. Safeguard is an interesting option to prevent status for a few turns, but Heal Bell and Substitute have more general utility. Earthquake gives fantastic coverage, but there is no room on this set to use it. Toxic lets you set up on walls whilst actually doing damage, but once again, there is no room; this does mean that Altaria loves Toxic Spikes support. Good Toxic Spikes users include Garbodor, Roselia, and Scolipede. Altaria struggles against Rock-type Pokemon, so Pokemon that beat them, such as Alomomola, who provides Wish and Toxic support, and Wartortle, who spins Stealth Rocks away for Altaria, are good partners. Special Samurott is a good offensive partner which not only deals with Rock-type Pokemon, but also Metang. Altaria is also a good win condition on bulkier teams.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>A support set looks good, but Altaria is Stealth Rock weak. Choice Band also looks good, but it is worse than Choice Specs (why?) and Outrage locks Altaria into the attack (i think choice band already does that). Mixed attacking also looks viable, but Altaria's stats simply aren't good enough to spread EVs this way. Roar on bulky Dragon Dance looks decent, but you are left very susceptible to status ailments. A gimmicky Draco Meteor with Haze or Power Swap is fun to use but difficult to pull off. Cotton Guard can make Altaria incredibly bulky physically, but Altaria is still weak to Ice Beam; this can work well with Dragon Dance to give Altaria many setup opportunities, but still leaves its Ice Beam weakness unresolved. Agility isn't as good as Dragon Dance since Altaria doesn't have very good base offense. Tailwind is a good support move, but Pokemon such as Braviary and Charizard are generally better Tailwind users. Similarly, Altaria also learns Rain Dance and Sunny Day, but other Pokemon tend to outperform Altaria as a Rain Dance or Sunny Day user. Altaria has access to Pursuit, but that is only useful against Haunter, and even then does not guarantee a kill.</p>
[Checks and Counters]

<p>Altaria's counters really depends on which set you are using. Special walls such as Lickilicky and Audino wall Choice Specs, while Physical walls such as as Tangela and Regirock beat the Dragon Dance set. Regice counters both sets well as it is bulky on both sides and swiftly OHKOes with Ice Beam. In fact, any Pokemon that commonly uses Ice-type attacks can be a check to Altaria, such as Jynx and many Water- and Electric-type Pokemon
hit Altaria hard. Rock-type Pokemon wall Altaria well, particularly Regirock who can take a Draco Meteor and KO back with Stone Edge. Golem breaks Substitute with Rock Blast. Steel-types wall Altaria's Dragon-type moves, but Altaria's movesets tends to prepare for them does use Fire Blast and occasionally Earthquake, so be careful. Its low offensive stats can be taken advantage of easily, particularly while Altaria is at -2 from a Draco Meteor. Because of this; Musharna and Braviary set up on it rather easily. Altaria is also weak to Stealth Rock, which often makes its hit-and-run strategies inadvisable and the strategy of Altaria is to hit hard with Draco Meteor and switch out, meaning that this weakness is fatal.</p>

[Overview]

<p>Altaria would seem like a great choice in a tier with few Dragon-type Pokemon. However, past its appealing defensive stats, there is little incentive to use it. Altaria has horrible weaknesses to Rock- and Ice-type attacks which curb its otherwise great bulk immensely. A Dragon Dance set with Altaria seems promising, but then you compare it to Fraxure and Dragonair, and it simply pales in comparison; Fraxure has more power, whilst Dragonair has ExtremeSpeed and isn't weak to Stealth Rock. Still, Altaria does have unique access to supportive and defensive options such as Heal Bell and Roost, as well as Leftovers (since its competition needs Eviolite to function). It's also the only specially based Dragon-type Pokemon in NU, and powerful moves such as Draco Meteor and Fire Blast make up for its poor offensive stats. Overall though, Altaria is still a rather lackluster choice.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Fire Blast
move 3: Dragon Pulse
move 4: Rest
item: Choice Specs
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Generally considered to be Altaria's best set, Choice Specs allows it to fully utilize Draco Meteor's huge 140 Base Power (210 including STAB) to power through most of the tier. Altaria's good natural bulk allows it to switch in quite easily, forcing switches it can punish with a Choice-boosted attack. The lack of Steel-Types in NU makes Draco Meteor the go-to move early, while Dragon Pulse's reliability makes it useful for late-game cleanup. For the few Steel-types that are around, such as Metang, Fire Blast is used. Rest, while normally odd on a Choice set, works well thanks to Natural Cure and Altaria's good bulk.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria uses a Modest nature to maximize its damage output, and doesn't miss out on outspeeding anything significant with a neutral Speed nature. Modest actually 2HKOes Misdreavus after Stealth Rock and OHKOes Samurott without any prior damage, two dangerous threats in NU. Hidden Power Ground can hit Probopass and Bastiodon, but it misses the 2HKO on the far more common Metang. Cloud Nine can be used to check rain abusers such as Ludicolo, but most of the time Natural Cure is superior. Life Orb can also be used, with Roost over Rest. This allows Altaria to stay in battle longer as it won't be locked into a move, but the loss of power is notable. Steel-types have fantastic synergy with Altaria and they can set up the ever-coveted Stealth Rock. Strong Fighting-type Pokemon such as Sawk and Primeape can help Altaria clear out problematic special walls, and Sawk can also stop the opponent from abusing Altaria's Stealth Rock weakness by OHKOing many hazard setters. Altaria can also support Pokemon such as Swords Dance Samurott and Shell Smash Carracosta, both of which enjoy Altaria clearing out the physical walls that would otherwise block them.</p>

[SET]
name: Bulky Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Roost
move 3: Dragon Claw
move 4: Substitute / Heal Bell
item: Leftovers
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Careful
evs: 248 HP / 196 SpD / 64 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Altaria is rather outclassed at using Dragon Dance, but it still has some advantages, the most apparent being the general bulk that Altaria possesses. Furthermore, it doesn't use Eviolite, but instead uses Leftovers for a little recovery every turn, and also has access to Roost, a more reliable recovery move for when you're in a pinch. Dragon Dance boosts Altaria's low Attack and decent Speed to deadly levels, but it requires quite a lot of setup. As such, Altaria will be forced into Roosting a lot, so Dragon Claw is used rather than Outrage so that Altaria isn't locked into attacks and doesn't get confused. Substitute shields it from status ailments and revenge killing, and also helps Altaria boost more efficiently. Heal Bell also shields both Altaria and your team from status, but it leaves Altaria prone to to being revenge killed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Before boosting, Altaria can outspeed offensive Torterra, and after a boost it can outspeed base 95 Speed Pokemon, such as Jynx. Everything else is invested into special bulk, Altaria's stronger defense, so that it has more opportunities to set up. A more offensive spread, while possible, would be outclassed by Fraxure. Safeguard is an interesting option to prevent status for a few turns, but Heal Bell and Substitute have more general utility. Earthquake gives fantastic coverage, but there is no room on this set to use it. Toxic lets you set up on walls whilst actually doing damage, but once again, there is no room; this does mean that Altaria loves Toxic Spikes support. Good Toxic Spikes users include Garbodor, Roselia, and Scolipede. Altaria struggles against Rock-type Pokemon, so Pokemon that beat them, such as Alomomola, who provides Wish and Toxic support, and Wartortle, who spins Stealth Rocks away for Altaria, are good partners. Special Samurott is a good offensive partner which not only deals with Rock-type Pokemon, but also Metang. Altaria is also a good win condition on bulkier teams.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>A support set looks good, but Altaria is Stealth Rock weak. Choice Band also looks good, but it is worse than Choice Specs and Outrage locks Altaria into the attack. Mixed attacking also looks viable, but Altaria's stats simply aren't good enough to spread EVs this way. Roar on bulky Dragon Dance looks decent, but you are left very susceptible to status ailments. A gimmicky Draco Meteor with Haze or Power Swap is fun to use but difficult to pull off. Cotton Guard can make Altaria incredibly bulky physically; this can work well with Dragon Dance to give Altaria many setup opportunities, but still leaves its Ice Beam weakness unresolved. Agility isn't as good as Dragon Dance since Altaria doesn't have very good base offense. Tailwind is a good support move, but Pokemon such as Braviary and Charizard are generally better Tailwind users. Similarly, other Pokemon tend to outperform Altaria as a Rain Dance or Sunny Day user. Altaria has access to Pursuit, but that is only useful against Haunter, and even then does not guarantee a kill.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Altaria's counters really depends on which set you are using. Special walls such as Lickilicky and Audino wall Choice Specs, while Physical walls such as as Tangela and Regirock beat the Dragon Dance set. Regice counters both sets well as it is bulky on both sides and swiftly OHKOes with Ice Beam. In fact, any Pokemon that commonly uses Ice-type attacks can be a check to Altaria, such as Jynx and many Water- and Electric-type Pokemon. Rock-type Pokemon wall Altaria well, particularly Regirock who can take a Draco Meteor and KO back with Stone Edge. Golem breaks Substitute with Rock Blast. Steel-types wall Altaria's Dragon-type moves, but Altaria's movesets tends to prepare for them so be careful. Its low offensive stats can be taken advantage of easily, particularly while Altaria is at -2 from a Draco Meteor; Musharna and Braviary set up on it rather easily. Altaria is also weak to Stealth Rock, which often makes its hit-and-run strategies inadvisable.</p>


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Thanks Aeron Ee1 I feel bad for johning getting these changes done now. >_>

Anyway implemented the GP check so this is ready to go on site I think! :)
 

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