UU Chandelure

[Kink]

Overview
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Chandelure sports a huge base 145 Special Attack, making it an optimal special wallbreaker. Chandelure also sports three immunities to some of the most common attacking types in the tier: Fighting, Fire, and Normal. This allows it to utilize an effective revenge-killing Choice Scarf set and a wallbreaking Choice Specs set. Unfortunately, poor base 60 HP lets its checks and counters easily revenge kill it. Additionally, Chandelure's subpar base 80 Speed means that anything with base 145 Speed or higher, such as Mega Aerodactyl, will outspeed and OHKO Choice Scarf Chandelure, and Chandelure's typing and lack of bulk makes it Pursuit bait.

Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Fire Blast
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick / Memento
ability: Flash Fire
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Fire Blast is the standard Fire-type STAB move, OHKOing most frail Pokemon. Shadow Ball is the go-to Ghost-type STAB move if the opponent's team can handle Fire-type moves or has an apparent Ghost-type weakness to exploit. Energy Ball is useful for revenge killing weakened bulky Water- and Ground-types and OHKOes Swampert. Trick is a good option against stall teams or bulky Pokemon that attempt to work around Chandelure's wallbreaking ability, as well as against win condition Pokemon such as Curse Snorlax. Alternatively, Memento is a good option to severely cripple the opponent's Pokemon, giving your team a setup sweep opportunity.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack EVs allow Chandelure to wallbreak as easily as possible. 252 Speed EVs, Choice Scarf, and a Timid nature allow Chandelure to outspeed and revenge kill anything under base 145 speed. Flash Fire allows Chandelure to absorb Fire-type moves such as Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz and proceed to use Fire Blast at 1.5x power.

Usage Tips
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Use Choice Scarf Chandelure as a revenge killer or moderately powerful special wallbreaker. Chandelure can be used as an anti-lead but is much more effective as a late-game cleaner or mid-game revenge killer. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for Scald and Earthquake, respectively.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can scout out Choice-locked Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that Chandelure can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks, such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Hydreigon can relieve some offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost- and Water-type weakness. Chandelure's weakness to Stealth Rock is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity. Setup sweepers such as Swords Dance Mega Abamosnow make strong offensive partners, especially when Chandelure is using Memento.

Choice Specs
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name: Choice Specs
move 1: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
ability: Flash Fire
item: Choice Specs
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid / Modest

Moves
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Fire Blast hits even Chandelure's common switch-ins, like Hydreigon, for decent damage while OHKOing all moderately bulky threats that do not resist it, such as Nidoqueen. Flamethrower is an alternative, reliable Fire-type STAB move OHKOing most frail Pokemon thanks to Choice Specs. Shadow Ball is the standard go-to Ghost-type STAB move if the opponents team can handle Fire-type moves or if the opponent has an apparent Ghost-type weakness to exploit. Energy Ball is useful for revenge killing slightly weakened bulky Water- and Ground-types and OHKOes Swampert; however, Chandelure still won't be OHKOing any of its bulky Water- and Ground-type checks and counters without prior damage. Trick is a good option against stall teams or bulky Pokemon that attempt to work around Chandelure's wallbreaking ability.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack allows Chandelure to wallbreak as easily as possible. 252 Speed EVs and a Timid Nature allows Chandelure to outspeed most walls, letting it perform its wallbreaking role effectively. A modest nature can be used to secure a 2HKO against Florges after Stealth Rock, although Timid is generally the better nature because it allows Chandelure to outspeed neutral base 90s. Flash Fire allows Chandelure to absorb Fire-type spam moves like Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz, and use Flamethrower or Fire Blast at 1.5x power.

Usage Tips
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Use Choice Specs Chandelure as a high-powered special wallbreaker with the capability of 2HKOing the majority of the tier that doesn't resist it. Chandelure is very effective as a mid-game wallbreaker or revenge killer against bulkier Pokemon such as a partially injured Mega Blastoise or Hippowdon. Chandelure can easily dismantle balanced teams, OHKOing the common Life Orb Nidoqueen and Choice Band Machamp while 2HKOing many Pokemon common on balance teams, ranging from Mega Ampharos to Vaporeon. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for Scald and Earthquake, respectively.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can scout out Choice-locked Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that Chandelure can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks, such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Hydreigon can relieve some offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost- and Water-type weakness. Chandelure's weakness to Stealth Rock is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity.

Substitute + Calm Mind
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name: Substitute + Calm Mind
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Flamethrower
move 4: Shadow Ball
ability: Flash Fire
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Substitute allows Chandelure to work around switches and common stall playstyles, including teams that utilize Pokemon such as Blissey. Calm Mind increases Chandelure's already huge Special Attack, allowing it to 2HKO a large portion of the tier. Flamethrower is a reliable STAB move that appreciates the Calm Mind boosts. Shadow Ball is Chandelure's secondary STAB move and provides it with reasonable offensive coverage.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack EVs ensure that Chandelure can wallbreak as easily as possible, even taking care of Blissey at +6. 252 Speed EVs allow Chandelure to outspeed most slower wallbreakers, such as Machamp, Nidoqueen, and Mega Blastoise, as well as any neutral base 90 Speed Pokemon. The 4 Special Defense EVs are used for the rare-yet-effective Download Porygon-Z, which can interrupt a sweep with Dark Pulse. Hydreigon is still a common switch-in for Chandelure, so an alternative spread with 112 HP EVs taken from Special Attack ensures that Chandelure survives Choice Scarf Hydreigon's Dark Pulse after one Calm Mind, allowing Chandelure to secure a surprise KO if Hydreigon has taken prior damage. 112 HP EVs also prevent uninvested Florges's Moonblast from breaking Chandelure's Substitute.

Usage Tips
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It is best to save Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure as a late-game win condition or as a setup sweeper against stall playstyles. Despite having less special power than the Choice Scarf set, Chandelure can still serve as an effective moderate wallbreaker against weakened balanced threats. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for Scald and Earthquake, respectively.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Choice Scarf Hydreigon has almost perfect type synergy with Chandelure. Shaymin loves Blissey being gone and deals easily with bulky Water- and Ground-type Pokemon that threaten Chandelure, and the two together put enormous pressure on Hydreigon. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can scout out Choice-locked Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that Chandelure can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks, such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Umbreon can relieve some defensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost- and Water-type weakness. Chandelure's weakness to Stealth Rock is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity. Lastly, Florges, similarly to Umbreon, can take pressure off Chandelure when facing Hydreigon.

Other Options
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Expert Belt is an option to bluff a Choice set. A bulkier Substitute + Calm Mind set can be used, decreasing the Speed EVs to hit lower benchmarks such as 242 for Adamant Honchkrow and uninvested base 100s. Hidden Power Fighting hits Pokemon that resist Chandelure's STABs moves, such as Hydreigon and Houndoom. A Substitute + Pain Split with Life Orb can be effective, particularly against Pokemon with high HP such as Vaporeon and Snorlax, as Pain Split takes advantage of Chandelure's low HP. Taunt stops various Pokemon from setting up and healing. Will-O-Wisp is great against some switch-ins, such as Assault Vest Machamp, Mega Aerodactyl, and Snorlax. Trick Room is another option and works particularly well with Memento.

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Water-types**: Suicune, Empoleon, Vaporeon, and Tentacruel all absorb Chandelure's attacks fairly well and can generally beat Chandelure in a one-on-one situation with Scald.

**Hydreigon**: Hydreigon is the most common and strongest offensive check against Chandelure bar Snorlax. A Dark Pulse or Draco Meteor will OHKO Chandelure, or cripple one of its teammates.

**Pursuit**: Pursuit users such as Krookodile and Mega Aerodactyl can easily force Chandelure to switch and revenge kill it.

**Special Walls**: The Choice Scarf set will have trouble breaking through Umbreon, Blissey, and Florges, as they all wall Chandelure's special attacks, with Trick being Chandelure's only option to effectively work around Blissey and Florges. Fortunately, Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure can work around both of these threats.

**Assault Vest**: Snorlax and Machamp are amongst the common Assault Vest users that can survive a Choice Specs-boosted Fire Blast and OHKO Chandelure.

 

[Kink]

Ready for first check.

 

[dodmen]

Alright here's what I've got:

• First thing's first, each set should not have the exact same Team Options as they all have different roles. For example, SubCM Chandelure beats Blissey and other special walls, so a partner that takes advantage of this could be Choice Scarf Hydreigon, which also has almost perfect type synergy with Chandelure. Shaymin is another one that loves Blissey being gone and deals easily with bulky Water- and Ground-type Pokemon that threaten Chandelure, and the two together put enormous pressure on Hydreigon. On the other hand, Choice Scarf and Specs Chandelure have trouble with Blissey and even standard Florges, so something like CB Machamp or Lucario would be something to help out Chandelure with these Pokemon. So yeah, you should go back through each set and revise Team Options with this in mind. Some of them are indeed the same; for example Hydreigon checks are mandatory teammates for all sets, but each set definitely appreciates different team support due to the nature of the set.
• Now for more specific stuff: Fire Blast is the primary slash on Choice Specs, allowing it to do wonderful things like 2HKO Hydreigon and AV Machamp. Not sure if Flamethrower should even be a slash on that set tbh but leave it second for now.
• Trick is not only used to dealing with stall, but is also extremely important for CurseLax as well.
• Slash Memento after Trick on Choice Scarf as it's much more useful against offense. For example, SD Mega Abomasnow pairs well with Chandy offensively and appreciates the support.
• Pursuit goes in C&C as it's one of the most effective ways of dealing with this monster. Mention Krook and Aero specifically since they each outspeed and resist a STAB. I'd go ahead and mention its weakness to Pursuit in the intro as well.
• In the intro, specify that base 145+ outspeeds it *even with a Choice Scarf*
• Change Choice Soecs' name to Choice Specs
• Other Options: HP Fighting hits things that resist your STABs like Hydreigon and Houndoom. SubSplit with Life Orb can be effective, particularly against things like Vaporeon and Snorlax, thanks to Chandy's low HP. Taunt stops various things from setting up or healing. Wisp is great against some switchins like AV Machamp, Mega Aerodactyl, and Snorlax. Trick Room is an OO as well and works particularly well with Memento. Air Balloon should not go in OO.
• In Checks and Counters, you said that it can only touch Florges and Blissey with Trick. This is not true as both lose to SubCM and some Florges can even just lose to Specs Fire Blast.
• Edit: approving the suggestion made by hilarious. However, you have to that with these EVs, Florges can break your sub before boosting.

 

[pokemonisfun]

I would really consider moving the 112 EVs into spa for subcm because Hydreigon will still beat you most of the time and that spa is significant to help break Blissey better. It would be extremely silly to get to +6 and not be able to break Blissey but 0/252+ Blissey has a chance of doing that with Wish and Protect to stall out your Flamethrower. Maxing out spa drastically reduces the chance of that happening. Also doing more damage helps out against stall which the subcm I believe is supposed to break so you can start to sweep earlier because that bulky water or that Nidoqueen has to be weakened just a little bit less for you to be able to ko it with extra spa evs.

 

[Kreme]

Just a minor nitpick, on the Choice Specs set it says "name: Choice Scarf" you might wanna fix that

 

[Kink]

Alright here's what I've got:

• First thing's first, each set should not have the exact same Team Options as they all have different roles. For example, SubCM Chandelure beats Blissey and other special walls, so a partner that takes advantage of this could be Choice Scarf Hydreigon, which also has almost perfect type synergy with Chandelure. Shaymin is another one that loves Blissey being gone and deals easily with bulky Water- and Ground-type Pokemon that threaten Chandelure, and the two together put enormous pressure on Hydreigon. On the other hand, Choice Scarf and Specs Chandelure have trouble with Blissey and even standard Florges, so something like CB Machamp or Lucario would be something to help out Chandelure with these Pokemon. So yeah, you should go back through each set and revise Team Options with this in mind. Some of them are indeed the same; for example Hydreigon checks are mandatory teammates for all sets, but each set definitely appreciates different team support due to the nature of the set.
• Now for more specific stuff: Fire Blast is the primary slash on Choice Specs, allowing it to do wonderful things like 2HKO Hydreigon and AV Machamp. Not sure if Flamethrower should even be a slash on that set tbh but leave it second for now.
• Trick is not only used to dealing with stall, but is also extremely important for CurseLax as well.
• Slash Memento after Trick on Choice Scarf as it's much more useful against offense. For example, SD Mega Abomasnow pairs well with Chandy offensively and appreciates the support.
• Pursuit goes in C&C as it's one of the most effective ways of dealing with this monster. Mention Krook and Aero specifically since they each outspeed and resist a STAB. I'd go ahead and mention its weakness to Pursuit in the intro as well.
• In the intro, specify that base 145+ outspeeds it *even with a Choice Scarf*
• Change Choice Soecs' name to Choice Specs
• Other Options: HP Fighting hits things that resist your STABs like Hydreigon and Houndoom. SubSplit with Life Orb can be effective, particularly against things like Vaporeon and Snorlax, thanks to Chandy's low HP. Taunt stops various things from setting up or healing. Wisp is great against some switchins like AV Machamp, Mega Aerodactyl, and Snorlax. Trick Room is an OO as well and works particularly well with Memento. Air Balloon should not go in OO.
• In Checks and Counters, you said that it can only touch Florges and Blissey with Trick. This is not true as both lose to SubCM and some Florges can even just lose to Specs Fire Blast.
• Edit: approving the suggestion made by hilarious. However, you have to that with these EVs, Florges can break your sub before boosting.

I believe this has all been done, let me know if I missed anything (tried to be meticulous).

 

[dodmen]

Alright looks good, last few things: remove the 4th bullet point for SubCM since it's already covered by the first (probably would be fixed when writing up but yeah). Don't forget to mention Pursuit weakness in the intro when mentioning its flaws. Talk about Modest in Set Details for Specs, since you've got it slashed there (give an example of something it can 2HKO with only Modest, I believe standard defensive Florges with Fire Blast is one). And finally, in Special Walls under C&C, specify that Blissey and Florges are both beaten by SubCM, since that's basically the whole point of the set. 1/3 when this is implemented!

 

[Kink]

Why does sub cm have specs as its item ?_?
Also it has the wrong ev spread.

read the QC comments before commenting imo.

 

[Kink]

Alright looks good, last few things: remove the 4th bullet point for SubCM since it's already covered by the first (probably would be fixed when writing up but yeah). Don't forget to mention Pursuit weakness in the intro when mentioning its flaws. Talk about Modest in Set Details for Specs, since you've got it slashed there (give an example of something it can 2HKO with only Modest, I believe standard defensive Florges with Fire Blast is one). And finally, in Special Walls under C&C, specify that Blissey and Florges are both beaten by SubCM, since that's basically the whole point of the set. 1/3 when this is implemented!

This has been done.

Ready for a second check.

 

[dodmen]

Slow down man, you didn't talk about Modest for Specs.

 

[Kink]

Slow down man, you didn't talk about Modest for Specs.

edit: this has been done.

 

[IronBullet]

Note that in set details for Sub CM 112 HP EVs also ensures that min Sp Atk Florges never breaks Chandelure's subs with Moonblast, so it can use it as setup bait. Otherwise looks good! QC 2/3

 

[Kink]

Note that in set details for Sub CM 112 HP EVs also ensures that min Sp Atk Florges never breaks Chandelure's subs with Moonblast, so it can use it as setup bait. Otherwise looks good! QC 2/3

This has been done.

Beginning writeup.

 

[Kink]

ready for a third check.

 

[Bouff]

we talked on irc, 3/3!

 

[Kink]

Ready for GP check

 

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Overview
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Chandelure sports a huge Base 145 Special Attack, making Chandelure an optimal special wallbreaker. Chandelure sports three immunities to some of the most common attacking types in the tier: Fighting-, Fire-, and Normal-type. This allows it to utilize an effective revenge-killing Choice Scarf set or a wallbreaking Choice Specs set. Unfortunately, poor 60 base HP lets its Checks and Counters easily revenge kill it. Subpar base 80 Speed means that anything with base 145 speed or higher, such as Mega Aerodactyl, will outspeed and OHKO Choice Scarf Chandelure, and Chandelure's lack of bulk and typing also makes it Pursuit bait.

Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Fire Blast
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick / Memento
ability: Flash Fire
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Fire Blast is a the standard Fire-type STAB move, allowing Chandelure to OHKOing (feel that flows most frail Pokemon. Shadow Ball is the standard go-to Ghost-type STAB move if the opponents team can handle Fire-type moves or if the opponent has an apparent Ghost-type weakness to exploit. Energy Ball is useful for type coverage and revenge killing weakened bulky Water- and Ground-types, or OHKOing Swampert. Trick is a good option against stall teams or stall Pokemon that attempt to work around Chandelure's wallbreaking ability, as well as other win condition Pokemon such as Curselax. Memento is a good option to severely cripple it's foes the opponent's Pokemon, giving your team an setup sweep opportunity. opportunity to set up and sweep.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack allows Chandelure to wallbreak as hard as possible. 252 Speed and a Timid Nature allows Chandelure to outspeed anything under base 145 speed alongside its Choice Scarf, and revenge kill it with a powerful Fire Blast or Shadow Ball. Flash Fire allows Chandelure to absorb Fire-type spam moves like Sacred Fire, (add comma) and Flare Blitz, and use Fire Blast at 1.5x power.

Usage Tips
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Use Choice Scarf Chandelure as a revenge killer or moderate special wallbreaker. Chandelure can be used as an anti-lead, but is much more effective as a late-game cleaner or mid-game revenge killer. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for their respective STAB Scald and Earthquake.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can let Chandelure scout out Choice Scarf/Band Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that it can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Umbreon can relieve some specially offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost-type weakness. Chandelure's Fire-type Fire typing (could say "Chandelure's fire typing" instead) makes it particularly weak to Stealth Rock, which also is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity. Pokemon like Swords Dance Mega Abamasnow make strong offensive partners, especially when used with Momento.

Choice Specs
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name: Choice Specs
move 1: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
ability: Flash Fire
item: Choice Specs
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid / Modest

Moves
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Fire Blast hits is a ruthless STAB option, even hitting (Hmm, I don't think this part is needed) Chandelure's common switch-ins, (add hyphen here) like Hydreigon, for decent damage while OHKOing all frail-to-moderate threats such as Nidoqueen. Flamethrower is Chandelure's alternative yet reliable Fire-type STAB move when using Choice Specs, OHKOing most frail Pokemon. Shadow Ball helps is the standard go-to Ghost-type STAB move (I don't think this part is needed either) if the opponents team can handle Fire-type moves or if the opponent has an apparent Ghost-type weakness to exploit. Energy Ball is useful for revenge killing slightly weakened bulky Water- and Ground-types, or OHKOing Swampert, however, Chandelure still won't be OHKOing any of its bulky Water- and Ground-type checks/counters without prior damage. Trick is a good option against stall teams or stall Pokemon that attempt to work around Chandelure's wallbreaking ability.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack EVs allows Chandelure to wallbreak as hard as possible. 252 Speed EVs (not exactly sure if it's an option for adding the "EVs" part but I recommend it) and a Timid Nature allows Chandelure to outspeed most bulky walls, letting it perform its wallbreaking role effectively after a Choice Specs boosted STAB move. Flash Fire allows Chandelure to absorb Fire-type spam moves like Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz, and use Flamethrower or Fire Blast at 1.5x power. Modest can be used to secure 2HKOs against Florges after Stealth Rocks, although Timid is generally the better option due to outspeeding neutral base 90s.

Usage Tips
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Use Choice Specs Chandelure as a high-powered special wallbreaker, with the capability of 2HKOing the majority of the unresisted tier. Chandelure is very effective as a mid-game wallbreaker/revenge killer against bulkier Pokemon such as a partially injured Mega Blastoise or Hippowdon. Chandelure can easily dismantle balanced teams, OHKOing the common Life Orb Nidoqueen set and Choice Band Machamp set, while 2HKOing many balanced Pokemon ranging from Mega Ampharos to Vaporeon. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for their respective STAB Scald and Earthquake.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can let Chandelure scout out Choice Scarf/Band Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that it can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Umbreon can relieve some specially offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost-type weakness. Chandelure's Fire-type makes it particularly weak to Stealth Rock, which also is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity.

Substitute + Calm Mind
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name: Substitute + Calm Mind
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Flamethrower
move 4: Shadow Ball
ability: Flash Fire
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Substitute allows Chandelure to work around switches and common stall playstyle Pokemon such as Blissey. Calm Mind increases Chandelure's already huge natural Special Attack, allowing it to 2HKO a large portion of the tier. Flamethrower is a reliable STAB move that appreciates the Calm Mind boosts. Shadow Ball is Chandelure's (add apostrophe) secondary STAB move that provides Chandelure with reasonable offensive coverage.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack EVs ensures that Chandelure can wallbreak as hard as possible, even taking care of Blissey at +6. 252 Speed EVs allow Chandelure to outspeed most slower wallbreakers such as Machamp, Nidoqueen, and Mega Blastoise, as well as any neutral base 90 Pokemon. The 4 Special Defense EVs are for the rare-yet-effective Download PorygonZ, which can interrupt a win condition sweep with a powerful Dark Pulse. Hydreigon is still a common switch-in (add hyphen here) for Chandelure, so an alternative spread 112 HP EVs taken from Special Attack ensures that Chandelure survives a Choice Scarfed Hydreigon Dark Pulse after a +1 Calm Mind, allowing Chandelure to secure a surprise KO if Hydreigon has prior damage. 112 HP investment will also prevent minimum Special Attack Florges's Moonblast from breaking the Substitute.

Usage Tips
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It is best to save Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure as a late-game win condition, or as a set up sweeper against stall playstyles. Despite less Special Attacking power than the Choice Scarf set, Chandelure can still serve as an effective moderate wallbreaker against weakened balanced threats. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for their respective STAB Scald and Earthquake. (not sure if the Tentacruel and Donphan sentence here should be repeated since it was mentioned above already for a previous set)

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Choice Scarf Hydreigon has almost perfect type synergy with Chandelure. Shaymin is one Pokemon that loves Blissey being gone and deals easily with bulky Water- and Ground-type Pokemon that threaten Chandelure, and the two together put enormous pressure on Hydreigon. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can let Chandelure scout out Choice Scarf/Band Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that it can switch into. Dark-types such as Umbreon can relieve some specially offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost-type weakness. Chandelure's Fire-type makes it particularly weak to Stealth Rock, which also is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity. Lastly, Florges, similar to Umbreon, can relieve pressure off of Chandelure when facing Hydreigon.

Other Options
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Expert Belt is an option to bluff a Choice set. A bulkier Substitute + Calm Mind, decreasing the Speed EVs to hit lower benchmarks such as 242 for Adamant Honchkrow and uninvested Base 100s. Hidden Power Fighting hits Pokemon that resist your STABs like Hydreigon and Houndoom. A Substitute + Pain Split with Life Orb can be effective, particularly against Pokemon such as Vaporeon and Snorlax, as Pain Split takes advantage of Chandelure's low HP. Taunt stops various Pokemon from setting up or healing. Will-o-Wisp is great against some switchi-ns (add hyphen) like Assault Vest Machamp, Mega Aerodactyl, and Snorlax. Trick Room is an another option as well and works particularly well with Memento.

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Water-Types**: Suicune, Empoleon, Vaporeon, and Tentacruel all absorb Chandelure's attacks fairly well, and can generally beat Chandelure in a one-on-one situation by winning with Scald.

**Hydreigon**: Hydreigon is the most common and strongest offensive check against Chandelure bar Snorlax. A Dark Pulse or Draco Meteor will OHKO any standard variant of Chandelure, or cripple one of your teammates.

**Pursuit**: Pursuit users like Krookodile or Mega Aerodactyl can easily force the a switch and revenge kill Chandelure.

**Special Walls**: The Choice Scarf set will have trouble breaking through Umbreon, Blissey, and Florges, as they all wall Chandelure's Special Attacks, with Trick being Chandelure's only option to effectively work around Blissey and Florges. Fortunately, Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure can work around both of these threats.

**Assault Vest**: Snorlax and Machamp are amongst two common Assault Vest users that can survive a Choice Specs Flamethrower and OHKO Chandelure with their respective moves.

Now you all can go crazy with checking it.

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[frenzyplant]

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Overview
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Chandelure sports a huge base (decapitalize) 145 Special Attack, making Chandelure it an optimal special wallbreaker. Chandelure also sports three immunities to some of the most common attacking types in the tier: Fighting, Fire, and Normal Fighting-, Fire-, and Normal-type. This allows it to utilize an effective revenge-killing Choice Scarf set or and a wallbreaking Choice Specs set. Unfortunately, poor 60 base 60 HP (the format is base number stat) lets its checks and counters (decapitalize) easily revenge kill it. Chandelure's subpar base 80 Speed means that anything with base 145 Speed (capitalize) or higher, such as Mega Aerodactyl, will outspeed and OHKO Choice Scarf Chandelure, and Chandelure's typing and lack of bulk and typing also makes it Pursuit bait.

Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Fire Blast
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick / Memento
ability: Flash Fire
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Fire Blast is the standard Fire-type STAB move, OHKOing most frail Pokemon. Shadow Ball is the standard go-to Ghost-type STAB move if the opponent's team can handle Fire-type moves or if the opponent (already said "opponent's team", no need to say it again) has an apparent Ghost-type weakness to exploit. Energy Ball is useful for revenge killing weakened bulky Water- and Ground-types, or and OHKOes OHKOing Swampert. Trick is a good option against stall teams or stall bulky Pokemon that attempt to work around Chandelure's wallbreaking ability, as well as against other win condition Pokemon such as Curse Snorlax Curselax. Alternatively, (or some intro word that shows it's a slash) Memento is a good option to severely cripple the opponent's Pokemon, giving your a teammate a setup sweep opportunity.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack EVs allows Chandelure to wallbreak as easily hard as possible. 252 Speed EVs, Choice Scarf, and a Timid nature allows Chandelure to outspeed and revenge kill anything under base 145 Speed alongside its Choice Scarf, and revenge kill it with a powerful Fire Blast or Shadow Ball. Flash Fire allows Chandelure to absorb Fire-type spam moves like Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz, (remove comma) and use Fire Blast at 1.5x power.

Usage Tips
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Use Choice Scarf Chandelure as a revenge killer or moderately powerful special wallbreaker. Chandelure can be used as an anti-lead, (remove comma) but is much more effective as a late-game cleaner or mid-game revenge killer. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for their respective STAB Scald and Earthquake, respectively.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can let Chandelure scout out Choice-locked Scarf/Band Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that it Chandelure can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks, (comma) such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Umbreon can relieve some specially offensive pressure (pressure on Chandelure to perform or pressure on Chandelure to take hits? specify, "specially offensive" is vague) while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost-type weakness. Chandelure's weakness Fire-type makes it particularly weak to Stealth Rock, which also is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity. Pokemon like Setup sweepers such as Swords Dance Mega Abomasnow (misspelled) make strong offensive partners, especially when Chandelure is using Memento used with Momento. (at first I read this as Monferno, lol)

Choice Specs
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name: Choice Specs
move 1: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
ability: Flash Fire
item: Choice Specs
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid / Modest

Moves
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Fire Blast is a ruthless STAB option, even hitting hits even Chandelure's common switch-ins, like Hydreigon, for decent damage while OHKOing all frail-to-moderately bulky threats that do not resist it, such as Nidoqueen. Flamethrower is an Chandelure's alternative, (comma) yet reliable Fire-type STAB move when using Choice Specs, OHKOing most frail Pokemon thanks to Choice Specs. Shadow Ball is the standard go-to Ghost-type STAB move if the opponents team can handle Fire-type moves or if the opponent has an apparent Ghost-type weakness to exploit. Energy Ball is useful for revenge killing slightly weakened bulky Water- and Ground-types, or OHKOing and OHKOes Swampert; (comma to semicolon) however, Chandelure still won't be OHKOing any of its bulky Water- and Ground-type checks/ and counters without prior damage. Trick is a good option against stall teams or stall bulky Pokemon that attempt to work around Chandelure's wallbreaking ability.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack allows Chandelure to wallbreak as hard as possible. 252 Speed EVs and a Timid nature allows Chandelure to outspeed most bulky walls (walls are bulky by definition), letting it perform its wallbreaking role effectively after a Choice Specs boosted STAB move. (*) Flash Fire allows Chandelure to absorb Fire-type spam moves like Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz, and use Flamethrower or Fire Blast at 1.5x power. A Modest nature can be used to secure a 2HKOs against Florges after Stealth Rocks, although Timid is generally the better option nature because it allows Chandelure due to outspeeding neutral base 90s. (move sentence to *)

Usage Tips
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Use Choice Specs Chandelure as a high-powered special wallbreaker, (remove comma) with the capability of 2HKOing the majority of the unresisted tier. Chandelure is very effective as a mid-game wallbreaker/revenge killer against bulkier Pokemon such as a partially injured Mega Blastoise or Hippowdon. Chandelure can easily dismantle balanced teams, OHKOing the common Life Orb Nidoqueen set and Choice Band Machamp sets (remove comma) while 2HKOing many balanced Pokemon common on balanced teams, ranging from Mega Ampharos to Vaporeon. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for their respective STAB Scald and Earthquake.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can let Chandelure scout out Choice Scarf/Band Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that it can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Umbreon can relieve some specially offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost-type weakness. Chandelure's Fire-type makes it particularly weak to Stealth Rock, which also is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity.

Substitute + Calm Mind
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name: Substitute + Calm Mind
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Flamethrower
move 4: Shadow Ball
ability: Flash Fire
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Substitute allows Chandelure to work around switches and common stall playstyle Pokemon such as Blissey. Calm Mind increases Chandelure's already huge natural Special Attack, allowing it to 2HKO a large portion of the tier. Flamethrower is a reliable STAB move that appreciates the Calm Mind boosts. Shadow Ball is Chandelure's secondary STAB move and that provides it Chandelure with reasonable offensive coverage.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack EVs ensures that Chandelure can wallbreak as easily hard as possible, even taking care of Blissey at +6. 252 Speed EVs allow Chandelure to outspeed most slower wallbreakers, (comma) such as Machamp, Nidoqueen, and Mega Blastoise, as well as any neutral base 90 Speed Pokemon. The 4 Special Defense EVs are used for the rare-yet-effective Download Porygon-Z (dash), which can interrupt a win condition sweep with a powerful Dark Pulse. Hydreigon is still a common switch-in to for Chandelure, so an alternative spread with 112 HP EVs taken from Special Attack ensures that Chandelure survives a Choice Scarfed Hydreigon's Dark Pulse after a +1 Calm Mind, allowing Chandelure to secure a surprise KO if Hydreigon has taken prior damage. 112 HP EVs investment will also prevent uninvested minimum Special Attack Florges's Moonblast from breaking the Chandelure's Substitute.

Usage Tips
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It is best to save Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure as a late-game win condition, (remove comma) or as a setup (one word) sweeper against stall playstyles. Despite having less special Attacking power than the Choice Scarf set, Chandelure can still serve as an effective moderate wallbreaker against weakened balanced threats. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for their respective STAB Scald and Earthquake.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Choice Scarf Hydreigon has almost perfect type synergy with Chandelure. Shaymin is one Pokemon that loves Blissey being gone and deals easily with bulky Water- and Ground-type Pokemon that threaten Chandelure, and the two together put enormous pressure on Hydreigon. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can let Chandelure scout out Choice Scarf/Band Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that it can switch into. Dark-types such as Umbreon can relieve some specially offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost-type weakness. Chandelure's Fire-type makes it particularly weak to Stealth Rock, which also is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity. Lastly, Florges, similarly to Umbreon, can relieve take pressure off of Chandelure when facing Hydreigon.

Other Options
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Expert Belt is an option to bluff a Choice set. A bulkier Substitute + Calm Mind set can be used, decreasing the Speed EVs to hit lower benchmarks such as 242 for Adamant Honchkrow and uninvested base (decapitalize) 100s. Hidden Power Fighting hits Pokemon that resist Chandelure's STAB moves, such as your STABs like Hydreigon and Houndoom. A Substitute + Pain Split set with Life Orb can be effective, particularly against Pokemon with high HP, such as Vaporeon and Snorlax, as Pain Split takes advantage of Chandelure's low HP. Taunt stops various Pokemon from setting up and or healing. Will-O-Wisp (capitalize) is great against some switch-ins (dash), (comma) like Assault Vest Machamp, Mega Aerodactyl, and Snorlax. Trick Room is an another option as well and works particularly well with Memento.

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Water-types** (decapitalize): Suicune, Empoleon, Vaporeon, and Tentacruel all absorb Chandelure's attacks fairly well, and can generally beat Chandelure in a one-on-one situation by winning with Scald.

**Hydreigon**: Hydreigon is the most common and strongest offensive check against Chandelure, (comma) bar Snorlax. A Dark Pulse or Draco Meteor will OHKO any standard variant of Chandelure, (remove comma) or cripple one of its your teammates.

**Pursuit**: Pursuit users like such as Krookodile or and Mega Aerodactyl can easily force Chandelure to the switch and revenge kill it Chandelure.

**Special Walls**: The Choice Scarf set will have trouble breaking through Umbreon, Blissey, and Florges, as they all wall Chandelure's special attacks (decapitalize), with Trick being Chandelure's only option to effectively work around Blissey and Florges. Fortunately, Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure can work around both of these threats.

**Assault Vest**: Snorlax and Machamp are amongst the two common Assault Vest users that can survive a Choice Specs-boosted Flamethrower and OHKO Chandelure with their respective moves.

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Overview
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Chandelure sports a huge base 145 Special Attack, making it an optimal special wallbreaker. Chandelure also sports three immunities to some of the most common attacking types in the tier: Fighting-, Fire-, and Normal-type Fighting, Fire, and Normal. (second 'type' is redundant, those mons aren't 'Normal-type-types') This allows it to utilize an effective revenge-killing Choice Scarf set and a wallbreaking Choice Specs set. Unfortunately, poor base 60 HP lets its checks and counters easily revenge kill it. Unfortunately Additionally, (less repetitive) Chandelure's subpar base 80 Speed means that anything with base 145 Speed or higher, such as Mega Aerodactyl, will outspeed and OHKO Choice Scarf Chandelure, and Chandelure's typing and lack of bulk makes it Pursuit bait.

Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Fire Blast
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick / Memento
ability: Flash Fire
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Fire Blast is the standard Fire-type STAB move, OHKOing most frail Pokemon. Shadow Ball is the go-to Ghost-type STAB move if the opponent's team can handle Fire-type moves or has an apparent Ghost-type weakness to exploit. Energy Ball is useful for revenge killing weakened bulky Water- and Ground-types, (RC) and OHKOs OHKOes (think go -> goes) Swampert. Trick is a good option against stall teams or bulky Pokemon that attempt to work around Chandelure's wallbreaking ability, as well as against win condition Pokemon such as Curse Snorlax. Alternatively, Memento is a good option to severely cripple the opponent's Pokemon, giving your team a setup sweep opportunity.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack EVs allow Chandelure to wallbreak as easily as possible. 252 Speed EVs, Choice Scarf, and a Timid nature allow Chandelure to outspeed and revenge kill anything under base 145 speed. Flash Fire allows Chandelure to absorb Fire-type moves like such as Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz and proceed to use Fire Blast at 1.5x power. (less ambiguous, it wasn't explicit that the power is only boosted after absorbing)

Usage Tips
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Use Choice Scarf Chandelure as a revenge killer or moderately powerful special wallbreaker. Chandelure can be used as an anti-lead but is much more effective as a late-game cleaner or mid-game revenge killer. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for Scald and Earthquake, respectively.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can scout out Choice-locked Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that Chandelure can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks, such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Hydreigon can relieve some offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost- and Water-type weakness. Chandelure's weakness to Stealth Rock is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity. Setup sweepers such as Swords Dance Mega Abamosnow make strong offensive partners, especially when Chandelure is using Memento.

Choice Specs
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name: Choice Specs
move 1: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Energy Ball
move 4: Trick
ability: Flash Fire
item: Choice Specs
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid / Modest

Moves
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Fire Blast hits even Chandelure's common switch-ins, like Hydreigon, for decent damage while OHKOing all moderately bulky threats that do not resist it, such as Nidoqueen. Flamethrower is an alternative, reliable Fire-type STAB move OHKOing most frail Pokemon thanks to Choice Specs. Shadow Ball is the standard go-to Ghost-type STAB move if the opponents team can handle Fire-type moves or if the opponent has an apparent Ghost-type weakness to exploit. Energy Ball is useful for revenge killing slightly weakened bulky Water- and Ground-types, (RC) and OHKOs OHKOes Swampert; however, Chandelure still won't be OHKOing any of its bulky Water- and Ground-type checks and counters without prior damage. Trick is a good option against stall teams or bulky Pokemon that attempt to work around Chandelure's wallbreaking ability.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack allows Chandelure to wallbreak as hard easily as possible. 252 Speed EVs and a Timid Nature allows Chandelure to outspeed most walls, letting it perform its wallbreaking role effectively. A modest nature can be used to secure a 2HKO against Florges after Stealth Rock, although Timid is generally the better nature because it allows Chandelure to outspeed neutral base 90s. Flash Fire allows Chandelure to absorb Fire-type spam moves like Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz, and use Flamethrower or Fire Blast at 1.5x power.

Usage Tips
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Use Choice Specs Chandelure as a high-powered special wallbreaker with the capability of 2HKOing the majority of the unresisted tier that doesn't resist it. (you're essentially saying that the tier is resisted, which makes no sense) Chandelure is very effective as a mid-game wallbreaker/ or revenge killer against bulkier Pokemon such as a partially injured Mega Blastoise or Hippowdon. Chandelure can easily dismantle balanced teams, OHKOing the common Life Orb Nidoqueen and Choice Band Machamp while 2HKOing many Pokemon common on balance teams, ranging (space after comma) from Mega Ampharos to Vaporeon. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for Scald and Earthquake, respectively.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can scout out Choice-locked Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that Chandelure can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks, such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Hydreigon can relieve some offensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost- and Water-type weakness. Chandelure's weakness to Stealth Rock is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity.

Substitute + Calm Mind
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name: Substitute + Calm Mind
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Calm Mind
move 3: Flamethrower
move 4: Shadow Ball
ability: Flash Fire
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Substitute allows Chandelure to work around switches and common stall playstyles, including teams that utilize Pokemon such as Blissey. Calm Mind increases Chandelure's already huge Special Attack, allowing it to 2HKO a large portion of the tier. Flamethrower is a reliable STAB move that appreciates the Calm Mind boosts. Shadow Ball is Chandelure's secondary STAB move and provides it with reasonable offensive coverage.

Set Details
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252 Special Attack EVs ensure that Chandelure can wallbreak as easily as possible, even taking care of Blissey at +6. 252 Speed EVs allow Chandelure to outspeed most slower wallbreakers, such as Machamp, Nidoqueen, and Mega Blastoise, as well as any neutral base 90 Speed Pokemon. The 4 Special Defense EVs are used for the rare-yet-effective Download Porygon-Z, which can interrupt a sweep with a powerful Dark Pulse. Hydreigon is still a common switch-in for Chandelure, so an alternative spread with 112 HP EVs taken from Special Attack ensures that Chandelure survives Choice Scarfed Scarf Hydreigon's Dark Pulse after a +1 one Calm Mind, allowing Chandelure to secure a surprise KO if Hydreigon has taken prior damage. 112 HP EVs also prevent uninvested Florges's Moonblast from breaking Chandelure's Substitute.

Usage Tips
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It is best to save Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure as a late-game win condition or as a set up setup sweeper against stall playstyles. Despite having less special power than the Choice Scarf set, Chandelure can still serve as an effective moderate wallbreaker against weakened balanced threats. Chandelure can be an effective spinblocker against Forretress, but it fears Tentacruel and Donphan for Scald and Earthquake, respectively.

Team Options
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Vaporeon can take on most bulky Water- and Ground-types that threaten to OHKO Chandelure due to its horrid bulk. Choice Scarf Hydreigon has almost perfect type synergy with Chandelure. Shaymin loves Blissey being gone and deals easily with bulky Water- and Ground-type Pokemon that threaten Chandelure, and the two together put enormous pressure on Hydreigon. Chandelure also partners well with Protect users, which can scout out Choice-locked Fighting-, Normal-, and Fire-type moves that Chandelure can switch into. Choice Band Machamp and Life Orb Lucario are good partners to get past some of Chandelure's specially defensive checks, such as Umbreon and Blissey. Dark-types such as Umbreon can relieve some defensive pressure while mitigating Chandelure's Ghost- and Water-type weakness. Chandelure's weakness to Stealth Rock is a huge detriment to its wallbreaking ability. As a result, Rapid Spin and Defog users increase Chandelure's longevity. Lastly, Florges, similarly to Umbreon, can take pressure off Chandelure when facing Hydreigon.

Other Options
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Expert Belt is an option to bluff a Choice set. A bulkier Substitute + Calm Mind set can be used, decreasing the Speed EVs to hit lower benchmarks such as 242 for Adamant Honchkrow and uninvested base 100s. Hidden Power Fighting hits Pokemon that resist Chandelure's STABs moves, such as Hydreigon and Houndoom. A Substitute + Pain Split with Life Orb can be effective, particularly against Pokemon with high HP such as Vaporeon and Snorlax, as Pain Split takes advantage of Chandelure's low HP. Taunt stops various Pokemon from setting up and healing. Will-O-Wisp is great against some switch-ins, like such as Assault Vest Machamp, Mega Aerodactyl, and Snorlax. Trick Room is an another option as well (redundant with 'another') and works particularly well with Memento.

Checks & Counters
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**Bulky Water-types**: Suicune, Empoleon, Vaporeon, and Tentacruel all absorb Chandelure's attacks fairly well, (RC) and can generally beat Chandelure in a one-on-one situation with Scald.

**Hydreigon**: Hydreigon is the most common and strongest offensive check against Chandelure, bar Snorlax. A Dark Pulse or Draco Meteor will OHKO Chandelure, (RC) or cripple one of its teammates.

**Pursuit**: Pursuit users such as Krookodile and Mega Aerodactyl can easily force Chandelure to switch and revenge kill it.

**Special Walls**: The Choice Scarf set will have trouble breaking through Umbreon, Blissey, and Florges, as they all wall Chandelure's special attacks, with Trick being Chandelure's only option to effectively work around Blissey and Florges. Fortunately, Substitute + Calm Mind Chandelure can work around both of these threats.

**Assault Vest**: Snorlax and Machamp are amongst the common Assault Vest users that can survive a Choice Specs-boosted Fire Blast and OHKO Chandelure.

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