PU Dodrio (Choice Scarf)

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Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Return
move 3: Knock Off
move 4: Toxic
ability: Early Bird
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Brave Bird is Dodrio's main STAB move due to its strength and typing, but it severely wears Dodrio down with recoil damage. Return provides a secondary STAB move that allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types neutrally and does not inflict recoil damage. Knock Off provides good utility by removing the foe's item, allowing Dodrio to cripple Rock- and Steel-types. Toxic also cripples Rock-types along with bulky walls such as Avalugg, but it is a bad move to be locked into.

Set Details
========

The EVs are standard for a fast, physically offensive Pokemon, and Choice Scarf allows Dodrio to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jumpluff and Ninetales. Early Bird is Dodrio's most relevant ability and is useful if Dodrio gets put to sleep.

Usage Tips
========

Dodrio should be used as a revenge killer, as its high Speed boosted by Choice Scarf allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, but it should not switch into attacks, as it is very frail. Dodrio also has the Speed and power to clean up weakened teams late game. Brave Bird is a fairly safe move to be locked in to, whereas Return can be used if Dodrio is low on HP. If the opponent has a Rock- or Steel-type, or a Pokemon that can easily switch into Dodrio, such as Avalugg, then Knock Off should be used; alternatively, Toxic can be used to cripple non-Steel-type switch-ins

Team Options
========

Ground- and Fighting-types such as Piloswine and Throh beat Rock- and Steel-types that can switch into Dodrio. The former sets up entry hazards, beats Electric-types, and appreciates the removal of Grass-types, while the latter can also beat Ice-types; specifically Avalugg, Sneasel, and Piloswine. Grass-types such as Tangela and Torterra also beat Rock-types, and they have a better matchup against Carracosta and Barbaracle. Water-types such as Poliwrath and Carracosta beat Rock-types, resist Ice, and enjoy the removal of Grass-types. More offensive teammates, such as Tangela and Barbaracle, can apply more pressure to Rock-types, by using double switches, and use them as setup fodder. Due to its weakness to Stealth Rock, Dodrio greatly appreciates entry hazard control from Pokemon such as Avalugg and Armaldo. Defoggers can be used, but Dodrio shares a typing with every Defog user other than Prinplup. Dodrio fits better on offensive teams that need ways to revenge kill fast Pokemon and have strong wallbreakers, such as Simipour and Marowak, that can weaken the opponent's team, allowing Dodrio to clean up. Aurorus and Sneasel can act as bait for Rock- and Steel-types and cripple them with Earth Power and Low Kick, respectively, while Dodrio beats the Fighting-types that threaten them.
 
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BP in moves? thoughts?
BP is illegal with brave bird :( so the set would have to be double edge (also illegal with brave bird)/ drill peck/knock off/bp, which i dislike as flying is a more spammable STAB, and at this point you might as well use fearow (+ drill peck is weaker than return)
 
Poliwrath should definitely be in team options as it is a counter to stuff that sets up on dodrio like carracosta. Roselia is a nice partner too. (As is leafeon)
Mention in usage tips that dodrio can't take an attack to save its life and to play it accordingly.
Idk very straightforward 1/3
 

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Roselia doesn't exactly match up well vs Barbaracle and Costa so id mention maybe Tangela or Leafeon.

If you want to keep Rose you could say it sets up hazards which achieve xyz KO or something but it shouldn't go with mons that beat costa and barbar

you probably could mention offensive water and grass-types to double into all the stuff that switch into Dodrio or at least get a free setup turn if Dodrio dies

QC 2/3 Anty nice job
 

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Roselia doesn't exactly match up well vs Barbaracle and Costa so id mention maybe Tangela or Leafeon.

If you want to keep Rose you could say it sets up hazards which achieve xyz KO or something but it shouldn't go with mons that beat costa and barbar

you probably could mention offensive water and grass-types to double into all the stuff that switch into Dodrio or at least get a free setup turn if Dodrio dies

QC 2/3 Anty nice job
Implemented the first and third bit
I dont think rose is any more noteworthy than other pokes

Writing up is going to be more effort than planned considering my keyboard is broken| I might do symbols as full stops and commas and c/p them in later (so sorry if this takes a while)

Majorly overestimated that
 
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Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Return
move 3: Knock Off
move 4: Toxic
ability: Early Bird
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Brave Bird is Dodrio's main STAB move due to its strength and typing, but it severely wears Dodrio down with recoil damage. Return provides a decent (it is decent) secondary STAB, which move that allows Dodrio to hits Electric-types neutrally and does not apply inflict recoil damage. Knock Off provides good utility, (AC) as it removing removes the foe's item off anything it hits, allowing Dodrio to cripple Rock- and Steel-types. Toxic also cripples Rock-types along with bulky walls such as Avalugg, but it is a bad move to be locked into.

Set Details
========

The EVs are standard for a fast, physically offensive Pokemon, and Choice Scarf allows Dodrio to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jumpluff and Ninetales. Early Bird is its most relevant ability, in case it gets put to sleep by a Grass-type (Grass-types aren't the only Pokemon who can make other Pokemon go night night.).

Usage Tips
========

Dodrio should be used as a revenge killer, as its high Speed and along with Choice Scarf allow it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, but cannot take a hit so it should be sent in safely. It Dodrio also has the speed and power to clean up weakened teams late game. Brave Bird is a fairly safe move to be locked in (add space)to, while whereas Return can be used if Dodrio is on low health on HP. If the opponent has a Rock- or Steel-type, or a Pokemon such as Avalugg that can easily come in on Dodrio, or a Pokemon that can easily come in on Dodrio, such as Avalugg, then Knock Off should be used, or Toxic if it the foe is not a Steel-type, (RC) to cripple the switch in.

Team Options
========

Ground- and Fighting-types such as Piloswine and Throh beat Rock- and Steel-types that can switch in on Dodrio. The former can set up entry hazards, beats Electric-types, and appreciates the removal of Grass-types, while the latter can also beat Ice-types; specifically Avalugg, Sneasel, and Piloswine. Grass-types such as Tangela and Torterra also beat Rock-types, and they have a better match up with Carracosta and Barbaracle, and. (Add Period) Water-types such as Poliwrath and Carracosta beat Rock-types, resists Ice-type, and enjoy the removal of Grass-types. More offensive team mates teammates such as Tangela and Barbaracle apply more pressure to Rock-types in double switches and can use them as set up setup fodder. (All of that helps Dodrio... How?) Due to its weakness to Stealth Rock, Dodrio greatly appreciates hazard control from Pokemon such as Avalugg and Armaldo. Defoggers users can be used, but Dodrio shares a typing with every user other than Prinpulp Prinplup. Dodrio fits better on offensive teams that need ways to revenge kill fast Pokemon, (RC) and which have strong wallbreakers, such as Simipour and Marowak, who which can weaken the opponent's team, (AC) allowing Dodrio to clean up. Aurorus and Sneasel can act as bait in for Rock- and Steel-types and cripple them with Earth Power and Low Kick, respectively, while Dodrio beats the Fighting-types that threaten them.
 
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Choice Scarf
########
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Return
move 3: Knock Off
move 4: Toxic
ability: Early Bird
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Brave Bird is Dodrio's main STAB move due to its strength and typing, but it severely wears Dodrio down with recoil damage. Return provides a decent (it is decent) secondary STAB, which move that allows Dodrio to hits Electric-types neutrally and does not apply inflict recoil damage. Knock Off provides good utility, (AC) as it removing removes the foe's item off anything it hits, allowing Dodrio to cripple Rock- and Steel-types. Toxic also cripples Rock-types along with bulky walls such as Avalugg, but it is a bad move to be locked into.

Set Details
========

The EVs are standard for a fast, physically offensive Pokemon, and Choice Scarf allows Dodrio to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jumpluff and Ninetales. Early Bird is its most relevant ability, in case it gets put to sleep by a Grass-type (Grass-types aren't the only Pokemon who can make other Pokemon go night night.).

Usage Tips
========

Dodrio should be used as a revenge killer, as its high Speed and along with Choice Scarf allow it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, but cannot take a hit so it should be sent in safely. It Dodrio also has the speed and power to clean up weakened teams late game. Brave Bird is a fairly safe move to be locked in (add space)to, while whereas Return can be used if Dodrio is on low health on HP. If the opponent has a Rock- or Steel-type, or a Pokemon such as Avalugg that can easily come in on Dodrio, or a Pokemon that can easily come in on Dodrio, such as Avalugg, then Knock Off should be used, or Toxic if it the foe is not a Steel-type, (RC) to cripple the switch in.

Team Options
========

Ground- and Fighting-types such as Piloswine and Throh beat Rock- and Steel-types that can switch in on Dodrio. The former can set up entry hazards, beats Electric-types, and appreciates the removal of Grass-types, while the latter can also beat Ice-types; specifically Avalugg, Sneasel, and Piloswine. Grass-types such as Tangela and Torterra also beat Rock-types, and they have a better match up with Carracosta and Barbaracle, and. (Add Period) Water-types such as Poliwrath and Carracosta beat Rock-types, resists Ice-type, and enjoy the removal of Grass-types. More offensive team mates teammates such as Tangela and Barbaracle apply more pressure to Rock-types in double switches and can use them as set up setup fodder. Due to its weakness to Stealth Rock, Dodrio greatly appreciates hazard control from Pokemon such as Avalugg and Armaldo. Defoggers users can be used, but Dodrio shares a typing with every user other than Prinpulp Prinplup. Dodrio fits better on offensive teams that need ways to revenge kill fast Pokemon, (RC) and which have strong wallbreakers, such as Simipour and Marowak, who which can weaken the opponent's team, (AC) allowing Dodrio to clean up. Aurorus and Sneasel can act as bait in for Rock- and Steel-types and cripple them with Earth Power and Low Kick, respectively, while Dodrio beats the Fighting-types that threaten them.
^ went over this on irc, so stamping it for 1/2 :)
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Regarding some of your comments, i wouldnt say return is too 'decent' as it is effectively an inferior brave bird but has no recoil and the answer to (All of that helps Dodrio... How?) quite obvious from reading it.
 

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Thanks and did this

Regarding some of your comments, i wouldnt say return is too 'decent' as it is effectively an inferior brave bird but has no recoil and the answer to (All of that helps Dodrio... How?) quite obvious from reading it.
i made that comment because Dodrio was not mentioned once in that entire part of the paragraph.
 

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i made that comment because Dodrio was not mentioned once in that entire part of the paragraph.
Well i just assumed that it is somewhat obvious that rock types do beat dodrio and there is a need for teammates to threaten it looking at the first line:
'Ground- and Fighting-types such as Piloswine and Throh beat Rock- and Steel-types that can switch in on Dodrio.'
also Dodrio was mentioned in that paragraph more than any other paragraph ?_? Sorry if i am being confused
 

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Well i just assumed that it is somewhat obvious that rock types do beat dodrio and there is a need for teammates to threaten it looking at the first line:
'Ground- and Fighting-types such as Piloswine and Throh beat Rock- and Steel-types that can switch in on Dodrio.'
also Dodrio was mentioned in that paragraph more than any other paragraph ?_? Sorry if i am being confused
never mind i was just being stupid
 

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Choice Scarf
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name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Return
move 3: Knock Off
move 4: Toxic
ability: Early Bird
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Brave Bird is Dodrio's main STAB move due to its strength and typing, but it severely wears Dodrio down with recoil damage. Return provides a secondary STAB move that allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types neutrally and does not inflict recoil damage. Knock Off provides good utility, as it removes by removing the foe's item off, allowing Dodrio to cripple Rock- and Steel-types. Toxic also cripples Rock-types along with bulky walls such as Avalugg, but it is a bad move to be locked into.

Set Details
========

The EVs are standard for a fast, physically offensive Pokemon, and Choice Scarf allows Dodrio to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jumpluff and Ninetales. Early Bird is its Dodrio's most relevant ability, (RC) and is useful if Dodrio in case it gets put to sleep.

Usage Tips
========

Dodrio should be used as a revenge killer, as its high Speed boosted by along with Choice Scarf allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, but cannot take a hit so it should not switch into attacks, as it is very frail be sent in safely. Dodrio also has the Speed and power to clean up weakened teams late game. Brave Bird is a fairly safe move to be locked in to, whereas Return can be used if Dodrio is low on HP. If the opponent has a Rock- or Steel-type, or a Pokemon that can easily come in on switch into Dodrio, such as Avalugg, then Knock Off should be used,; (SC) alternatively, or Toxic can be used to cripple non-Steel-type switch-ins if the foe is not a Steel-type to cripple the switch in.

Team Options
========

Ground- and Fighting-types such as Piloswine and Throh beat Rock- and Steel-types that can switch into on Dodrio. The former can sets up entry hazards, beats Electric-types, and appreciates the removal of Grass-types, while the latter can also beat Ice-types; specifically Avalugg, Sneasel, and Piloswine. Grass-types such as Tangela and Torterra also beat Rock-types, and they have a better match up matchup with against Carracosta and Barbaracle. Water-types such as Poliwrath and Carracosta beat Rock-types, resist Ice-type, and enjoy the removal of Grass-types. More offensive teammates, (AC) such as Tangela and Barbaracle, (AC) can apply more pressure to Rock-types, (AC) in by using double switches, (AC) and can use them as setup fodder. Due to its weakness to Stealth Rock, Dodrio greatly appreciates entry hazard control from Pokemon such as Avalugg and Armaldo. Defoggers can be used, but Dodrio shares a typing with every Defog user other than Prinplup. Dodrio fits better on offensive teams that need ways to revenge kill fast Pokemon and have strong wallbreakers, such as Simipour and Marowak, which that can weaken the opponent's team, allowing Dodrio to clean up. Aurorus and Sneasel can act as bait for Rock- and Steel-types and cripple them with Earth Power and Low Kick, respectively, while Dodrio beats the Fighting-types that threaten them.

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Choice Scarf
########
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Brave Bird
move 2: Return
move 3: Knock Off
move 4: Toxic
ability: Early Bird
item: Choice Scarf
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Jolly

Moves
========

Brave Bird is Dodrio's main STAB move due to its strength and typing, but it severely wears Dodrio down with recoil damage. Return provides a secondary STAB move that allows Dodrio to hit Electric-types neutrally and does not inflict recoil damage. Knock Off provides good utility, as it removes by removing the foe's item off, allowing Dodrio to cripple Rock- and Steel-types. Toxic also cripples Rock-types along with bulky walls such as Avalugg, but it is a bad move to be locked into.

Set Details
========

The EVs are standard for a fast, physically offensive Pokemon, and Choice Scarf allows Dodrio to revenge kill Pokemon such as Jumpluff and Ninetales. Early Bird is its Dodrio's most relevant ability, (RC) and is useful if Dodrio in case it gets put to sleep.

Usage Tips
========

Dodrio should be used as a revenge killer, as its high Speed boosted by along with Choice Scarf allows it to outspeed the entire unboosted metagame, but cannot take a hit so it should not switch into attacks, as it is very frail be sent in safely. Dodrio also has the Speed and power to clean up weakened teams late game. Brave Bird is a fairly safe move to be locked in to, whereas Return can be used if Dodrio is low on HP. If the opponent has a Rock- or Steel-type, or a Pokemon that can easily come in on switch into Dodrio, such as Avalugg, then Knock Off should be used,; (SC) alternatively, or Toxic can be used to cripple non-Steel-type switch-ins if the foe is not a Steel-type to cripple the switch in.

Team Options
========

Ground- and Fighting-types such as Piloswine and Throh beat Rock- and Steel-types that can switch into on Dodrio. The former can sets up entry hazards, beats Electric-types, and appreciates the removal of Grass-types, while the latter can also beat Ice-types; specifically Avalugg, Sneasel, and Piloswine. Grass-types such as Tangela and Torterra also beat Rock-types, and they have a better match up matchup with against Carracosta and Barbaracle. Water-types such as Poliwrath and Carracosta beat Rock-types, resist Ice-type, and enjoy the removal of Grass-types. More offensive teammates, (AC) such as Tangela and Barbaracle, (AC) can apply more pressure to Rock-types, (AC) in by using double switches, (AC) and can use them as setup fodder. Due to its weakness to Stealth Rock, Dodrio greatly appreciates entry hazard control from Pokemon such as Avalugg and Armaldo. Defoggers can be used, but Dodrio shares a typing with every Defog user other than Prinplup. Dodrio fits better on offensive teams that need ways to revenge kill fast Pokemon and have strong wallbreakers, such as Simipour and Marowak, which that can weaken the opponent's team, allowing Dodrio to clean up. Aurorus and Sneasel can act as bait for Rock- and Steel-types and cripple them with Earth Power and Low Kick, respectively, while Dodrio beats the Fighting-types that threaten them.

GP 2/2
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