Dogfish44 vs. Psyco_Josho

Redew · Jun 2, 2014

1v1 LC Singles
1 Day DQ
All Abilities, Training Items
ASB Arena, standard fast-match stuff.

Dogfish44

Tanlladwyr (F)

Nature: Quiet
+SpA, -Spe, -10% EVA

Type: Ghost / Steel

Abilities: No Guard

Stats:
HP: 90
Atk: 3
Def: 4
SpA: 3 (+)
SpD: 2
Spe: 24 (-)
Size Class: 2
Weight Class: 1
Base Rank Total: 15

EC: 0/9
MC: 0
DC: N/A

Moves (/):
Tackle
Swords Dance
Fury Cutter
Metal Sound
Pursuit
Autotomize
Shadow Sneak
Aerial Ace

Destiny Bond
Wide Guard

Toxic
Protect
Brick Break
Double Team
Reflect
Attract
Rock Slide
Flash Cannon

Psyco_Josho

#246

Larvitar [Rocky] (M)
Previously Known As:
x

Type:

/

Stab: Rock STAB; Adds an additional level of Priority (+0 to +1, +3 to +4 etc.) on naturally occurring level-up, egg, tutor, or TM attacks that increase only defense, special defense, or prevent damage (Full list: Acid Armor, Amnesia, Barrier, Defense Curl, Detect, Quick Guard, Harden, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Protect, Reflect, Skull Bash, Stockpile, Wide Guard, Withdraw). Reduced damage from all special attacks by two (2) Base Attack Power during Sandstorm, immune to Sandstorm damage. Ignores Arena restrictions on Rock attacks requiring an external rock source.

Stab: Ground STAB; immune to Sandstorm. Ignores Arena restrictions on Dig and Seismic Attacks for Arenas in which any land mass exists, Evasive Digging reduced from 6 per action Energy Cost to 5 per action.

Abilities:
Guts / Sand Veil (H)

Nature: Mild (+Sepcial Attack, -Defense)

Stats:
HP: 90
Atk: 3
Def: 1 (-)
SpA: 3 (+)
SpD: 2
Spe: 41
Size Class: 1
Weight Class: 4
Base Rank Total: 13

EC: 0/9
MC: 0
AC: 0/5

Attacks (Current move total): 18/71 ~~(+4 Bonus CC)~~

Level Up
Pre-26
::> Bite
::> Leer
::> Sandstorm
::> Screech
::> Chip Away
::> Rock Slide
::> Scary Face
::> Thrash
Post-25
:: Dark Pulse - 1 MC
:: Payback - 1 MC
:: Crunch - 1 MC
:: Earthquake - 1 MC
:: Stone Edge - 1 MC
:: Hyper Beam - 1 MC

Egg
::> Ancient Power
:: Assurance - 3 MC
::> Curse
:: Dragon Dance - 3 MC
::> Focus Energy
::> Iron Defense
:: Iron Head - 3 MC
:: Iron Tail - 3 MC
:: Outrage - 3 MC
:: Pursuit - 3 MC
:: Stealth Rock - 3 MC
::> Stomp

TM/HM
:: II 43 - Detect - 3 MC

:: IV 43 - Secret Power - 3 MC
:: IV 58 - Endure - 3 MC
:: IV 78 - Captivate - 3 MC
:: IV 83 - Natural Gift - 3 MC

:: VI 06 - Toxic - 2 MC
:: VI 10 - Hidden Power - 2 MC
:: VI 11 - Sunny Day - 2 MC
:: VI 12 - Taunt - 2 MC
::> VI 17 - Protect
:: VI 18 - Rain Dance - 2 MC
:: VI 21 - Frustration - 2 MC
:: VI 23 - Smack Down - 2 MC
:: VI 27 - Return - 2 MC
::> VI 28 - Dig
:: VI 31 - Brick Break - 2 MC
::> VI 32 - Double Team
:: VI 39 - Rock Tomb - 2 MC
:: VI 41 - Torment - 2 MC
:: VI 42 - Facade - 2 MC
:: VI 44 - Rest - 2 MC
:: VI 45 - Attract - 2 MC
:: VI 48 - Round - 2 MC
:: VI 67 - Retaliate - 2 MC
:: VI 69 - Rock Polish - 2 MC
::> VI 78 - Bulldoze
:: VI 87 - Swagger - 2 MC
:: VI 88 - Sleep Talk - 2 MC
::> VI 90 - Substitute
:: VI 94 - Rock Smash - 2 MC
:: VI 95 - Snarl - 2 MC
:: VI 98 - Power-Up Punch - 2 MC
:: VI 100 - Confide - 2 MC

Tutor
:: III - Body Slam - 3 MC
:: III - Double-Edge - 3 MC
:: III - Mimic - 3 MC

:: IV - Headbutt - 3 MC
:: IV - Mud-Slap - 3 MC

:: V - Earth Power - 3 MC
:: V - Snore - 3 MC
:: V - Spite - 3 MC
:: V - Superpower - 3 MC
:: V - Uproar - 3 MC

Other
:: Harden - 3 MC
:: Rage - 3 MC

Command
Bodyblock
Chill
Dodge
Shift
Take Cover

Raid
x

Larvitar bought on 05/30/14

CAP-19
Colosshale [Blimp] (M)
Previously Known As:
x

Type:

/

STAB: Dark STAB; ignores Attract and Confusion status entirely when using Dark-type damaging and non-damaging attacks.

STAB: Water STAB; Ignores arena restrictions on Water attacks that require an external water source. Evasive Diving reduced from 6 per action Energy Cost to 5 per action.

Abilities:
Rebound / Storm Drain / Flare Boost (H)

Nature: Jolly (Speed * 1.15, -Special Attack)

Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: 2
Def: 2
SpA: 2 (-)
SpD: 3
Spe: 98, +22% Accuracy
Size Class: 4
Weight Class: 9
Base Rank Total: 16

EC: 0/6
MC: 0
AC: 0/5

Attacks (Current move total): 16/74 ~~(+4 Bonus CC)~~

Level Up
Pre-26
::> Leer
::> Tackle
::> Bubble Beam
::> Bite
::> Rapid Spin
::> Body Slam
Post-25
:: Pursuit - 1 MC
:: Bounce - 1 MC
:: Dig - 1 MC
:: Magnitude - 1 MC
:: Stockpile - 1 MC
:: Swallow - 1 MC
:: Spit Up - 1 MC
:: Muddy Water - 1 MC

Egg
::> Double-Edge
::> Encore
::> Fake Out
:: Fire Fang - 3 MC
:: Fissure - 3 MC
:: Flail - 3 MC
:: Foul Play - 3 MC
::> Horn Drill
:: Mud Bomb - 3 MC
:: Mud Shot - 3 MC
:: Sand Tomb - 3 MC
:: Screech - 3 MC
::> Sucker Punch
:: Thunder Fang - 3 MC
:: Water Spout - 3 MC

TM/HM
:: IV 43 - Secret Power - 3 MC
:: IV 58 - Endure - 3 MC
:: IV 78 - Captivate - 3 MC

::> VI 05 - Roar
:: VI 06 - Toxic - 2 MC
:: VI 10 - Hidden Power - 2 MC
::> VI 12 - Taunt
::> VI 17 - Protect
:: VI 18 - Rain Dance - 2 MC
:: VI 21 - Frustration - 2 MC
:: VI 26 - Earthquake - 2 MC
:: VI 27 - Return - 2 MC
::> VI 32 - Double Team
:: VI 34 - Sludge Wave - 2 MC
:: VI 36 - Sludge Bomb - 2 MC
:: VI 42 - Facade - 2 MC
:: VI 44 - Rest - 2 MC
:: VI 45 - Attract - 2 MC
:: VI 46 - Thief - 2 MC
:: VI 48 - Round - 2 MC
:: VI 49 - Echoed Voice - 2 MC
:: VI 60 - Quash - 2 MC
:: VI 63 - Embargo - 2 MC
:: VI 66 - Payback - 2 MC
:: VI 67 - Retaliate - 2 MC
:: VI 78 - Bulldoze - 2 MC
:: VI 80 - Rock Slide - 2 MC
:: VI 87 - Swagger - 2 MC
:: VI 88 - Sleep Talk - 2 MC
:: VI 89 - U-Turn - 2 MC
::> VI 90 - Substitute
:: VI 94 - Rock Smash - 2 MC
:: VI 95 - Snarl - 2 MC
:: VI 97 - Dark Pulse - 2 MC
:: VI 100 - Confide - 2 MC
:: VI H4 - Strength - 2 MC

Tutor
:: IV - Ancient Power - 3 MC
:: IV - Rollout - 3 MC

:: V - Aqua Tail - 3 MC
:: V - Dive - 3 MC
:: V - Earth Power - 3 MC
:: V - Iron Tail - 3 MC
:: V - Knock Off - 3 MC
:: V - Snatch - 3 MC
:: V - Snore - 3 MC

Other
x

Command
Bodyblock
Chill
Dodge
Shift
Take Cover

Raid
x

Colosshale bought on 5/07/14

#677

Espurr [Jack] (M)
Previously Known As:
x

Type:

Stab: Psycic STAB; can lift and throw opponents with Psycic regardless of Special Attack Rank. Psycic-type attacks are not godlike and cannot be used as a catchall for Disabling, Binding, and redirecting opposing attacks.

Abilities:
Keen Eye / Infiltrator / Own Tempo (H)

Nature: Modest (+Sepcial Attack, -Attack)

Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: 1 (-)
Def: 2
SpA: 4 (+)
SpD: 2
Spe: 68
Size Class: 1
Weight Class: 1
Base Rank Total: 15

EC: 0/6
MC: 0
AC: 0/5

Attacks (Current move total): 19/46 ~~(+3 Bonus CC)~~

Level Up
Pre-26
::> Scratch
::> Leer
::> Covet
::> Confusion
::> Light Screen
::> Psybeam
::> Fake Out
::> Disarming Voice
::> Psyshock
Post-25
x

Egg
::> Assist
::> Barrier
::> Trick
::> Yawn

TM/HM
:: VI 04 - Calm Mind - 2 MC
:: VI 06 - Toxic - 2 MC
:: VI 10 - Hidden Power - 2 MC
:: VI 11 - Sunny Day - 2 MC
::> VI 17 - Protect
:: VI 18 - Rain Dance - 2 MC
:: VI 20 - Safeguard - 2 MC
:: VI 21 - Frustration - 2 MC
:: VI 24 - Thunderbolt - 2 MC
:: VI 27 - Return - 2 MC
:: VI 29 - Psycic - ~~2 MC~~
::> VI 32 - Double Team
:: VI 33 - Reflect - ~~2 MC~~
:: VI 41 - Torment - 2 MC
:: VI 42 - Facade - 2 MC
:: VI 44 - Rest - 2 MC
:: VI 45 - Attract - 2 MC
:: VI 48 - Round - 2 MC
:: VI 49 - Echoed Voice - 2 MC
::> VI 53 - Energy Ball
:: VI 57 - Charge Beam - 2 MC
:: VI 66 - Payback - 2 MC
:: VI 70 - Flash - 2 MC
::> VI 73 - Thunder Wave
:: VI 77 - Psyc Up - 2 MC
:: VI 85 - Dream Eater - 2 MC
:: VI 87 - Swagger - 2 MC
:: VI 88 - Sleep Talk - 2 MC
::> VI 90 - Substitute
:: VI 92 - Trick Room - 2 MC
::> VI 97 - Dark Pulse
:: VI 100 - Confide - 2 MC
:: VI H1 - Cut - 2 MC

Tutor
x

Other
x

Command
Bodyblock
Chill
Dodge
Shift
Take Cover

Raid
x

Espurr bought on 05/30/14

Dogfish44 Sends out and equips
Psyco_Josho Sends out, equips, and orders
Dogfish44 Orders
I ref

Dogfish44 · Jun 2, 2014

Tanlladwyr @ Lucky Egg, let's go!

Psyco_Josho · Jun 2, 2014

"Go Blimp! Take this Exp. Share!"

@(Exp. Share)
"Alright! It's time for a good fight!"

Bite ~ Bubble Beam ~ Bite
IF [Brick Break], THEN [Sucker Punch] AND [push back].
IF [Swords Dance], THEN [Encore the first time only] AND [push back].

Dogfish44 · Jun 2, 2014

"Push onward!"

Fury Cutter ~ Fury Cutter ~ Fury Cutter

Redew · Jun 2, 2014

Round 1

HP: 100
EN: 100

vs

HP: 90
EN: 100

Action 1:

Blimp used Bite!

RNG=8539 (NO CRIT)
RNG=644 (FLINCH)
6 x 1.5 = 9 HP

-3 EN

Tanlladwyr flinched!

Action 2:

Blimp used Bubble Beam!

RNG=4668 (NO CRIT)
RNG=6579 (NO EFFECT)
(7 + 3) x 1 = 10 HP

-4 EN

Tanlladwyr used Fury Cutter!

RNG=8074 (NO CRIT)
((4 + 0) + (4.5 - 3)) x 1.5 = 8.25 HP

-4 EN

Action 3:

Blimp used Bite!

RNG=4593 (NO CRIT)
RNG=8033 (NO EFFECT)
6 x 1.5 = 9 HP

-3 EN

Tanlladwyr used Fury Cutter!

RNG=6974 (HIT)
RNG=8074 (NO CRIT)
((4 + 3) + (4.5 - 3)) x 1.5 = 12.75 HP

-5 EN

Blimp dealt a total of 28 damage and used a total of 10 EN.
Tanlladwyr dealt a total of 21 damage and used a total of 11 EN.

HP: 79
EN: 90

vs

HP: 69
EN: 89

***

I am fairly sure I messed up on the Fury Cutter part, so Dogfish44 can you please PM me on IRC so I can fix it.

Psyco_Josho · Jun 2, 2014

Just about anything you want regarding info on moves and other various things can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...pFOW5yRGQxb3NDSmVqRHNxVUE&usp=drive_web#gid=2

First of all, Dark is weak to Bug. You forgot to factor that. Second, here is info on Fury Cutter:

NDA said:
The Pokémon repeatedly slashes the foe, with every consecutive slash increasing damage by three (3) and Energy Cost by one (1). If Fury Cutter misses or is blocked (but is still used consecutively), its number of Consecutive Uses decreases by one (1) (e.g. if it is blocked after 3 consecutive uses, the next attack will calculate damage based on 2 Consecutive uses). Fury Cutter does not incur the normal Consecutive Attacks penalty.
BAP Formula: 4 + ("Consecutive" Uses * 3). Maximum 22.
Energy Cost Formula: 4 + "Consecutive" Uses

Dogfish44 · Jun 2, 2014

OK, lemme look over this one:

Honedge has No Guard so didn't need the rolls to hit.
Fury Cutter's formula is a wee bit tricky to understand. "Consecutive Uses" is the number of consecutive uses of Fury Cutter, excluding the current use. So on the first use "Consecutive uses" would equal 0, on the second use "Consecutive uses" would equal 1, etc. So Honedge's first Fury Cutter has 4 BAP, and costs 4 EN. The second has 7 BAP, and costs 5 EN. The 3rd would have 10 BAP and cost 6 EN, etc.
Fury Cutter is Bug-Type, so is Super Effective vs Water/Dark types (Use Sharpedo as your reference on Veekun if you want to see the weaknesses/resists quickly)
Your Damage calcs for Bite are also off. (6 + 3 + (3-6))*1.5 becomes (6 + 3 + (-3))*1.5, or simplified just 6*1.5 = 9. You seem to have swapped Coloshale's ATK and Honedge's DEF.
Blimp should have used only 10 EN. Bite costs 3 EN, and the second use of Bite had a Bubblebeam between it, so the second bite would not suffer consecutive EN penalty

Yes, I did give you a fun move to learn how to ref =)

Psyco_Josho · Jun 2, 2014

Dogfish44, it looks like the round has been edited. Time to resume.

Dogfish44 · Jun 2, 2014

Indeed, whatnot, and etcetera.

Fury Cutter ~ Fury Cutter ~ Fury Cutter

Redew · Jun 2, 2014

Oops yea. I talked with him on IRC (you're not on IRC >:|) haha it's ok. I should post next time u_u!!

fixed!!

Psyco_Josho · Jun 2, 2014

"Get some strong hits in!"

"You got it!"

Sucker Punch + Sucker Punch ~ cooldown (Sucker Punch Combo) ~ Sucker Punch + Sucker Punch

Redew · Jun 3, 2014

Round 2

HP: 79
EN: 90
vs

HP: 69
EN: 89

Action 1:

Blimp used Sucker Punch + Sucker Punch!

RNG=9872 (NO CRIT)
(18 + 3 + (3-4.5)) x 1.5 = 29.25 HP

-27 EN

Tanlladwyr used Fury Cutter!

RNG=3786 (NO CRIT)
((4 + 6) + (4.5 - 3)) x 1.5 = 17.25 HP

-6 EN

Action 2:

Blimp is cooling down!

Tanlladwyr used Fury Cutter!

RNG=4526 (NO CRIT)
((4 + 9) + (4.5 - 3)) x 1.5 = 21.75 HP

-7 EN

Action 3:

Blimp used Sucker Punch + Sucker Punch!

RNG=5222 (NO CRIT)
(18 + 3 + (3-4.5)) x 1.5 = 29.25 HP

-55 EN

Tanlladwyr used Fury Cutter!

RNG=9542 (NO CRIT)
((4 + 12) + (4.5 - 3)) x 1.5 = 26.25 HP

-8 EN

Blimp dealt a total of 59 damage and used a total of 82 EN.
Tanlladwyr dealt a total of 65 damage and used a total of 21 EN.

HP: 14
EN: 8

vs

HP: 10
EN: 68

Dogfish44
Psyco_Josho

Dogfish44 · Jun 3, 2014

Ref fixes for Redew:

Your Fury Cutters are all out of sync - the first should deal 17.25 Damage, the second 21.75 and the third 26.25. Check your calculations, especially when you Copy & Paste stuff!
Same move combos. Hoo boy. Lemme quote from the ASB Handbook:

The combo's energy cost is equal to the move's energy cost * 2 + 4, all multiplied by 1.75. This can be calculated more simply as the move's energy cost + 2, all multiplied by 3.5.

Modifiers such as STAB and abilities are factored in after this calculation, but the consecutive use penalty is calculated in the move's energy cost. Thus a combo of Flamethrower + Flamethrower on the action right after Flamethrower treats the move's energy cost as 11, not 7.

OK, so let's use the simplified calc for EN. Sucker Punch costs 6 EN Before STAB is applied. This means that in the formula ((Energy Cost + 2) * 3.5), we get the EN Cost to be ((6 + 2) * 3.5), or 8 * 3.5, which is 28. At this point, we now apply STAB. This results in Colosshale's first Sucker Punch + Sucker Punch costing 27 EN.

Now then, before I advance, let me pull the section on Consecutive Energy Penalty from the Handbook:

Consecutive Energy Cost

As tempting as it may be to find your Pokemon's most powerful move and use it every action, doing so is a surefire way to drain your Pokemon's energy. When a Pokemon uses the same move on consecutive actions, the energy cost of that move increases by 4. This energy cost increase is cumulative and carries over from one round to the next. Outside of switching, the only way to reset this penalty is to use a different move or somehow fail to act. However, Combination cooldowns do not reset the consecutive use penalty, nor does using a combination of two different moves.

So, Coloshale will definitely take Consecutive Energy Penalty on the second combo. However, it's actually not +4, but +8 - this is because ASB treats the move as having been used twice in a row for the sake of combinations. Now, if you look to the combinations quote, you can see that this is treated as a flat increase to the EN of the move before we plug it into the formula. So, rather than adding 8 EN onto the last instance of our move, we instead have to redo the formula:

(((6 + 8) + 2) * 3.5)

Simplifying, we get 16 * 3.5. This equals 56 EN.... but, we then reduce that by one due to STAB, which as before is added after, dropping to 55 EN. This means over the 2 attacks Coloshale uses 82 EN total.

And no, most ASB matches aren't this complex to ref - and you will find you get better with practice =)

Psyco_Josho · Jun 4, 2014

Ignore this Redew. I was not aware that you had not edited this yet.

Does this mean I can order now? Okay then.

"Oops..."

~~"Yeah, "Oops" is right."~~

~~Cooldown ~ Sucker Punch ~ Bubble Beam~~

Dogfish44 · Jun 4, 2014

Redew's going to be fixin' this to account for the fact that each Fury Cutter still needs t'be fixed. Would that end up changing your orders?

Psyco_Josho · Jun 4, 2014

Yes. (Maybe. We'll see.)

Redew · Jun 4, 2014

HELLO YES IM BACK

Sorry about all of the miscalcs. I'm trying my best;;;; But anyway, these should be fixed now. And sorry about the day delay. Mom had a baby!! She is the cutest omg ahhhhhhhh.

So, anyway, BATTLE.

Dogfish44
Psyco_Josho

Psyco_Josho · Jun 4, 2014

Back to where I started...

"Oops..."

"Yeah, "Oops" is right."

Cooldown ~ Sucker Punch ~ Bubble Beam

Dogfish44 · Jun 4, 2014

I was suppossed to be asleep, but eh...

Fury Cutter ~ Fury Cutter ~ Fury Cutter

Redew · Jun 4, 2014

Round 3

HP: 14
EN: 8

vs

HP: 10
EN: 68

Action 1

Blimp is cooling down!

Tanlladwyr used Fury Cutter!

RNG=3024 (NO CRIT)
((4 + 15) + (4.5 - 3)) x 1.5 = 30.75 HP

-9 EN

Dogfish44 wins!

HP: KO
EN: 8

vs

HP: 10
EN: 59

Psyco_Josho:
1 CC
Bimp: 1 AC / 1 EC / 3 MC

Dogfish44:
1 CC
Tanlladwyr: 1 AC / 2 EC / 2 MC

Me:
3 UC

[19:38] <Redew> what do you want the lucky egg to go toward?
[19:39] <&dogfish44> EC or DC
[19:39] <&dogfish44> (In Honedge's case, just EC :P)

Dogfish44 vs. Psyco_Josho

Redew

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Dogfish44

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Psyco_Josho

Dogfish44

You can call me Jiggly

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Psyco_Josho

Dogfish44

You can call me Jiggly

Psyco_Josho

Dogfish44

You can call me Jiggly

Redew

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Psyco_Josho

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Dogfish44

You can call me Jiggly

Psyco_Josho

Dogfish44

You can call me Jiggly

Psyco_Josho

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Dogfish44

You can call me Jiggly

Redew

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