Overview
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Defensive
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name: Defensive
move 1: Moonblast
move 2: Wish
move 3: Protect
move 4: Aromatherapy / Toxic
ability: Flower Veil / Symbiosis
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
nature: Calm
Moves
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Set Details
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Usage Tips
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Team Options
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Offensive Calm Mind
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name: Offensive Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Moonblast
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Aromatherapy / Substitute
ability: Flower Veil / Symbiosis
item: Leftovers
evs: 132 HP / 252 SpA / 124 Spe
nature: Modest
Moves
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Set Details
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Usage Tips
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Team Options
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Other Options
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Checks & Counters
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- Excellent special bulk and decent HP allow it to be great special wall
- Fantastic typing gives it an immunity to the Dragon-type (a factor that sets it apart from Umbreon) as well as a slew of resistances to common offensive types; these resistances to the common Bug-, Dark-, and Fighting-types somewhat make up for its less-than-stellar physical bulk, and aid it in taking on specific physical attackers, such as Mienshao and Heracross.
- Reasonable Special Attack lets it apply offensive pressure with Moonblast on some of the Pokemon it walls.
- It can also run a Calm Mind set to make it nigh unbreakable on the special side while also making it a lot more powerful, giving it opportunities to actually sweep.
- Aromatherapy and Wish let Florges be a cleric and recover both itself and teammates, respectively.
- Really poor physical bulk.
- Can't do anything at all to Steel-types.
- Pretty much hates Taunt, Toxic, Trick, and many other things that typical defensive Pokemon don't like to deal with.
- Competition with SpD Mew and Umbreon as a wall and Aromatisse as a Fairy-type Wish passer.
Defensive
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name: Defensive
move 1: Moonblast
move 2: Wish
move 3: Protect
move 4: Aromatherapy / Toxic
ability: Flower Veil / Symbiosis
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
nature: Calm
Moves
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- Moonblast is STAB and KOes prominent threats like Hydreigon.
- Wish is Florges's only means of recovery, and it can also be used to heal teammates.
- Protect guarantees survival before obtaining the Wish, while also letting it stall for Leftovers recovery.
- Aromatherapy alleviates status from teammates as well as Toxic or burn which limits Florges's longevity.
- Meanwhile, Toxic is Florges's only way of being able to break down specially defensive walls such as Hippowdon.
Set Details
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- Leftovers provides passive recovery.
- EV spread with Calm nature hits a jump point in Special Defense with the rest invested in physical bulk.
- There are a number of other viable EV spreads.
- 252 HP / 252 Def Bold counters CB Heracross and other physical attackers much more reliably.
- 252 HP / 252 SpD gives you more leeway against boosting special attackers.
- Custom EV spreads to survive certain attacks can be used if suitable.
Usage Tips
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- Switch in on things you wall like Hydreigon, but use Protect to scout Iron Tail.
- Florges can wall many prominent Pokemon, including Heracross, Mienshao, Mega Ampharos, Raikou, Shaymin, Starmie, Noivern, Kyurem, and a lot of other specially-inclined Pokemon.
- Just Protect often to scout for the coverage of some Pokemon or to pivot around Choice-locked Pokemon.
- Toxic on forced switches is also cool, unless of course you think they'll go into something like Jirachi.
Team Options
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- Easy to fit on defensive / balanced teams that aren't weak to the Nidos.
- Mew and Umbreon handle Nidos and Roserade easily.
- Victini and Darmanitan can destroy annoying Steel-types.
- Slowbro and Suicune help with physical Fire-types like Darmanitan, Victini, and Entei.
Offensive Calm Mind
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name: Offensive Calm Mind
move 1: Calm Mind
move 2: Moonblast
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Aromatherapy / Substitute
ability: Flower Veil / Symbiosis
item: Leftovers
evs: 132 HP / 252 SpA / 124 Spe
nature: Modest
Moves
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- Calm Mind boosts Florges Special Attack to a respectable level, while also making it incredibly difficult to break through on the special side.
- Moonblast is STAB and hits neutral Pokemon quite hard after a couple of CM boosts.
- Psychic hits Nidoking, Crobat, and other Poison-types on the switch in, as well as defensive Roserade (which you outspeed).
- Aromatherapy is a nice supportive option to cure teammates status.
- Substitute can shield Florges from Toxic, give it a temporary barrier against physical revenge killers, and make it really hard to take down, in a similar vein to BW's SubCM Latias.
- Wish can be used in this slot to recover back to full health and stall them out while you CM.
Set Details
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- Leftovers provides a form of recovery so Florges isn't worn down quickly as it tries to set up.
- 124 Speed EVs outspeeds min Speed Roserade, max Special Attack as this set is offensively-oriented, and the rest invested in HP for better overall bulk.
Usage Tips
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- More offensive approach as opposed to walling.
- Setup on the many special attackers you'd force out with the defensive set.
- Try to predict Nidoking / Nidoqueen switches and hit them with Psychic.
- Or, don't setup until they're dead.
- Don't get greedy with CM boosts; you may get KOed by an untimely crit.
Team Options
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- SpD Mew for Nidoking.
- Stuff to take care of fast revenge killers like Crobat and Victini. Slowbro works, as does Suicune.
- Functions as a late-game win condition on balanced teams, so basically Pokemon that can just cover its weaknesses are good teammates. It doesn't require a whole team to be built around it.
Other Options
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- Choice Specs capitalizes on Florges's decent Special Attack stat, but Florges is still quite slow and weak for a Choice Specs attacker. Outclassed by Gard aside from surprise factor.
- Sunny Day / Rain Dance lets it function as a weather supporter, especially with Wish.
- Energy Ball hits Slowbro and Suicune harder than anything else.
Checks & Counters
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- Poison-types
- Nidoking
- Nidoqueen
- Roserade
- Crobat
- Steel-types
- Mega Aggron
- Metagross
- Forretress
- Jirachi
- Bronzong
- Cobalion
- Fire-types
- Victini
- Darmanitan
- Entei
- Suicune
- Slowbro
- Phazing
- Taunt
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