Frillish

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[OVERVIEW]

Frillish can be an effective spinblocker due to its Water / Ghost typing. It also has the added ability to counter prominent Pokemon such as Poliwrath and non-Knock Off Simipour thanks to Water Absorb. Frillish faces competition from Misdreavus, which can spinblock, Taunt, and burn foes and has better defensive and Speed stats. It also faces competition from Gourgeist-XL, which can spinblock and has solid uninvested offensive stats and reliable recovery, though it lacks Taunt. Frillish has very solid Special Defense, but suffers from a low Defense stat. Frillish is also incredibly weak to Knock Off and most physical moves, seeing as it relies mostly on its Eviolite. Unlike most walls in the tier, Frillish has reliable recovery and access to Eviolite; however, Frillish is almost useless without Eviolite, and its low base Speed can make it easy to Taunt.

[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Recover
move 2: Scald
move 3: Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
move 4: Night Shade
item: Eviolite
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Recover allows Frillish to heal damage it has and can help stall a foe until a field condition ends or they faint to status effects. Scald allows Frillish to get off some damage on foes and holds the potential to burn them as well. Will-O-Wisp allows Frillish to take on physical attacks a bit better and offers chip damage on the side. Toxic can be used instead to allow for more chip damage at the loss of crippling physical attackers. Night Shade allows Frillish to deal damage on Pokemon that resist Scald and deals fixed damage, somewhat alleviating Frillish's low Special Attack.

Set Details
========

Maximum Special Defense and HP with a Calm Nature allows Frillish to take s(lowercase s)pecial hits as well as it can. Eviolite adds to its solid Special Defense and weak Defense. Water Absorb gives Frillish a small niche and the ability to beat Poliwrath and Simipour, as well as not running the risk of getting burned by Scald.

Usage Tips
========

Don't switch in or keep Frillish in against most physical attackers, as they can deal massive damage to it; however, there are exceptions, such as Pokemon locked into a Fighting- or Normal-type move. If you need Frillish to consistently take on special attackers, it has to stay healthy and use Recover when it can. Frillish should only use Will-O-Wisp in situations where it expects a physical attacker to switch in or when it needs some chip damage on an opposing wall. Taunt from an opposing Pokemon can take away Frillish's ability to burn foes and reliably heal itself, crippling it severely. Use Frillish to block a Rapid Spin from an opposing Pokemon, but be wary when faced against Armaldo, which can use Knock Off on it. It should also be wary against Pokemon that may carry Toxic, such as Avalugg and Torkoal. Most of the time, switch Frillish in against a Poliwrath or Simipour to wall them, unless Poliwrath has revealed Toxic or Simipour has revealed Knock Off. Scald or Will-O-Wisp should be used early-game to cripple foes.

Team Options
========

Frillish works well with Pokemon such as Piloswine, Torterra, Ninetales, Probopass, Aurorus, and Golem, which are weak to special Water-types. Frillish appreciates Heal Bell support from Pokemon such as Togetic and Lickilicky to heal off status effects and allow it to stay on the field for longer. It works better on balance or semi-stall teams, as it doesn't offer much offensive presence and needs Pokemon to take physical moves for it. Frillish only fits on a team with entry hazard setters such as Roselia, Quilladin, Probopass, Piloswine, and Golem, as it is adept at blocking a Rapid Spin. In a similar vein, Frillish should be paired with a Defiant user such as Pawniard or Purugly to further deter the use of entry hazard removal. Frillish appreciates Pokemon to take physical hits for it such as Torkoal, Togetic, Stunfisk, and Avalugg. Mainly, it appreciates Pokemon that take Knock Off, such as Poliwrath, Machoke, and Probopass. Pokemon such as Roselia, Tangela, Zebstrika, and Pawniard have solid defensive synergy with Frillish, as they take on each other's weaknesses.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Frillish could run a physically defensive set to better take on foes such as Carracosta, Piloswine, and Golem and make its defenses more balanced. Frillish could utilize Ice Beam to take on Pokemon such as Torterra and Jumpluff better, or it can run Shadow Ball to deal more damage to Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Gourgeist. In addition, Frillish can run Hex to get more damage against an foe in combination with status effects. Taunt can be used to stop Pokemon from using status moves and attempting to set up, but Frillish is too slow to use it effectively.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physical Attackers**: Pokemon such as Stoutland, Sawsbuck, Pawniard, Barbaracle, Dodrio, Mightyena, Jumpluff, and Ursaring can deal huge amounts of damage and almost guarantee a KO against Frillish. Frillish can attempt to burn them, but Stoutland can use that to its advantage with a Scrappy Facade.

**Grass-types**: Grass-type Pokemon such as Torterra, Roselia, Jumpluff, Sawsbuck, and Leafeon can deal massive damage against Frillish with their Grass-type STAB moves and take minimal damage from Scald, although they don't appreciate a burn. Roselia can set up Spikes or Toxic Spikes as well.

**Dark-types**: Pawniard, Mightyena, and Zweilous can all deal massive damage to Frillish. Pawniard and Krokorok get a special mention, as they can trap Frillish with Pursuit, but the latter doesn't appreciate getting burned.

**Electric-types**: Zebstrika, Raichu, Luxray, and Rotom-F can deal significant amounts of damage to Frillish. Rotom-F can also Trick Frillish a Choice Scarf and render it almost useless. These Pokemon can also gain momentum on Frillish by using Volt Switch if it switches out.

**Residual Damage**: Residual damage from burn, entry hazards, and, most notably, Toxic, can cause Frillish to be worn down quickly and can make it easy to revenge kill.

**Taunt Users**: Taunt users such as Dodrio and Grumpig can severely cripple Frillish by temporarily taking away its access to important status moves.
 
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Anty

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This isnt good enough for an analysis sorry (the only reason it is on the VR was because of a meme

Spinblocking + beating some waters may seem nice but is is very niche (i would even prefer sdef gourgeist). There are so many downsides to frilish, mainly the competition for a water type teamslot, which is important due to the amount of waters and frilish doesnt bring much to the table outside spinblocking, which isnt much as it looses to the best spinblocker in the tier. So its real niche is walling pokes like wrath/simi which the former isnt too impressive and the latter is starting to run knock off meaning you arent a great counter

rejected 1/3 sorry :c
 

Raiza

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[OVERVIEW]
mention why it counters poli and simi(ie: second-last point+water type which also gives water absorb)
mention that it is outclassed by gourgeist
mention it's eviolite reliant
mention that it is mainly ran on defensive teams, and that most defensive teams are borderline unviable.
mention that its lack of speed makes it taunt bait.

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
Frillish is too slow to abuse taunt, I'd rather put it in moves and replace it with night shade

Set Details
========
mention ability

Usage Tips
========
mention that spreading burns is frillish's main task, so mention that scald or willowisp/toxic should be spammed early in the game to cripple foes, while night shade late-game to put foes in range or just finish offweakened foes.
mention frillish should also be wary to rapid spin users that carry toxic or can burn it.
mention frillish should be wary about taunt users
mention that to constantly check special attackers, frillish has to stay healthy and use recover when possible.

Team Options
========
defiant users dont form a hazard blocking core, more like deter even more the use of rapid spin
mention pokemon that can backup frillish from physical attackers
mention pokemon with good typing synergy.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
mention shadow ball

Checks and Counters
===================
mention dark types dont appreciate getting burned.
mention residual damage, especially poison and toxic spikes
mention electric-types

BenOhver do this and consider it QC 1/3
 
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TONE

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Mention Knock Off in particular to Pokemon that can take physical hits for Frillish. Looks good otherwise so QC 2/3.
 
Not giving this a full check because it's not written up but remove mentions of pursuit mightyena and guts ursaring in c&c because guts ursaring is bad and mightyena doesn't get pursuit.
 

Grim

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[OVERVIEW]
-Make sure to say that it only counters non-Knock Off Simipour.
-When you talk about competition from Missy and Gourg and what it has over them also say that it takes on Water-types better due to Water Absorb.
-'Unlike most walls in the tier, Frillish has reliable recovery as well as access to Taunt and Eviolite although Frillish's lack of Speed can make it easy to Taunt'. If Taunt is not on the main set you don't need to mention it here. Relying on Eviolite is also not really something good.

Usage Tips
========
-I don't completely agree with the first line because it's heavilily dependent on which physical attacker and on the consequenses of switching out (for example costa sets up a smash), so reword that.
-Same for the last line, it's a little misleading because it depends on the situation.

Team Options
========
-Either say semi stall or something like 'bulkier teams' because full stall is pretty much unviable.

Other Options
=============
-Energy Ball Hex is okay.

Checks and Counters
===================
-Make sure to say for all how they take advantage of it such as Roselia spiking on it and Electrics gaining momentum with Volt Switch.
-Don't mention Floatzel and Simipour as Taunt users because both are still beaten by Frillish. Mention Dodrio and / or Misdreavus instead.

Do this and 3/3.
 
Mention in oo a physically difensive spread to have better mixer defenses and to take on Pokemon such as Piloswine, Carracosta and Golem better

Dont say that defensive teams are borderline unviable in overview because that os a massive overstafement lol

Also you repeat yourself like 20 times in overview
 

Martin

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Give Magic Coat a mention in OO to reflect Taunt back to its user.
 

queez

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sorry, something came up and it ended up taking me a few hrs to get this done

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[OVERVIEW]

Frillish can be an effective s(lowercase s)pinblocker due to its paired with the Water / Ghost t(lowercase t)yping.(add period) It also has with the added ability to counter highly ranked Pokemon such as Poliwrath and non-Knock Off Simipour due thanks to Water Absorb. Frillish faces competition from Misdreavus,(add comma) which can s(lowercase s)pinblock, Taunt, and burn opponents,(add comma) and has better defensive and Speed stats in general. Frillish does have a niche in Scald, as well as reliable recovery in Recover. It also faces competition from Gourgeist-XL,(add comma) which can s(lowercase s)pinblock and Taunt opponents, and has users as well as having solid uninvested attack offensive stats and reliable recovery, while lacking Taunt (you just said it has Taunt ?_?). Frillish has very solid base Special Defense, but suffers from a low Defense stat. specially defensive stats, but lacks Defense. Frillish is incredibly weak to Knock Off as well as and most p(lowercase p)hysical moves, seeing as it relies mostly on its Eviolite. Unlike most walls in the tier, Frillish has reliable recovery as well as and access to Eviolite,;(comma -> semicolon) but is however, Frillish is almost useless without it Eviolite, and Frillish's its lack of low base Speed can make it easy to Taunt.

[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Recover
move 2: Scald
move 3: Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
move 4: Night Shade
item: Eviolite
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Recover allows Frillish to heal off damage it has received and can help stall an opponent until a f(lowercase f)ield c(lowercase c)ondition ends or they die to s(lowercase s)tatus effects. Scald allows Frillish to get off some damage on opponents as well as adding and holds the potential of burning and weakening to burn an opponent a foe. Will-O-Wisp allows Frillish to take on p(lowercase p)hysical a(lowercase a)ttacks a bit better as well as offering and offers damage on the side. Toxic can be used use over this to allow for more chip damage at the loss of crippling p(lowercase p)hysical attackers. Night Shade allows Frillish to deal damage on Pokemon that resist Scald and is not crippled by Frillish's weak base Special Attack, as well as not relying on its sub-par attacking stats.

Set Details
========

Maximum Special Defense and HP with a Calm Nature allows Frillish to take s(lowercase s)pecial hits as well as it can. Eviolite adds to its bulk and can allow it to add to its solid Special Defense and weak as well as allowing it to gain some Defense. Water Absorb gives Frillish a small niche and the ability to beat Poliwrath and Simipour, as well as not running the risk of getting burnt by Scald.

Usage Tips
========

Don't switch in or keep in Frillish in against most physical attackers,(add comma) seeing as they can deal massive damage to it,;(comma -> semicolon) but however, there are exemptions exceptions,(add comma) such as Pokemon locked into a Fighting- or Normal-type move. If you need Frillish to consistently take on special attackers, it has to stay healthy as well as and Recover when it can. Frillish should only use Will-O-Wisp in situations where it expects a physical attacker to switch in, or when it need needs some chip damage on a an opposing wall. Taunt from an opposing Pokemon can take away instant burn and recovery from Frillish, crippling it severely. Use Frillish to block a Rapid Spin from a an opposing Pokemon, but be wary when faced against an Armaldo, which can use Knock Off on it. It should also be wary if they against Pokemon that may carry Toxic, such as Avalugg or and Torkoal. Most of the time, switch Frillish in against a Poliwrath or Simipour to wall them, unless Poliwrath has revealed Toxic or Simipour has revealed Knock Off. Scald or Will-O-Wisp should be spammed used early in the game to cripple opponents foes.

Team Options
========

Frillish works well with Pokemon that are weak to s(lowercase s)pecial Water-types such as Piloswine, Torterra, Ninetales, Probopass, Aurorus, and Golem. Frillish appreciates Heal Bell support from Pokemon such as Togetic and Lickilicky to heal off status effects from it and allow it to stay on the field for a longer duration. It works better on balance or semi-stall teams,(add comma) seeing as it doesn't offer much offensive presence and needs Pokemon to take p(lowercase p)hysical moves for it. Frillish only fits on a team with entry hazard setters hazards from Pokemon such as Roselia, Quilladin, Probopass, Piloswine, and Golem,(add comma) seeing as it does best at blocking a Rapid Spin. On the same page, Frillish should be paired with a Defiant user such as Pawniard and Purugly to further deter the use of entry hazard removal. Frillish appreciates Pokemon to take p(lowercase p)hysical hits for it such as Torkoal, Togetic, Stunfisk, and Avalugg. Mainly, it appreciates Pokemon to take Knock Off,(add comma) such as Poliwrath, Machoke, and Probopass. Pokemon such as Roselia, Tangela, Zebstrika, and Pawniard have solid synergy with Frillish seeing as they take on each others weaknesses.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Frillish could run a physically defensive set to better take on foes opponents such as Carracosta, Piloswine, and Golem better as well as and make its defenses more balanced. Frillish could utilize Ice Beam to take on Pokemon such as Torterra and Jumpluff better. Frillish could , as well as run Shadow Ball to deal more damage to Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Gourgeist. In addition, Frillish can run Hex to get more damage against an opponent in combination with status effects. Taunt can be used to stop Pokemon from using status moves, recovery, or and attempting to set up, but Frillish is too slow to use it effectively.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physical Attackers**: Pokemon such as Stoutland, Sawsbuck, Pawniard, Barbaracle, Dodrio, Mightyena, Jumpluff, and Ursaring can deal huge amounts of damage and almost guarantee a KO against it Frillish. Frillish can attempt to burn them,(add comma) but Stoutland can use that to its advantage with a Scrappy Facade.

**Grass-types**: Grass-type Pokemon such as Torterra, Roselia, Jumpluff, Sawsbuck, and Leafeon can deal massive damage against Frillish with their Grass-type STAB moves as well as taking and take minimal damage from Scald, although they don't appreciate a burn. Roselia can set up Spikes or Toxic Spikes as well.

**Dark-types**: Pawniard, Mightyena, and Zweilous can all deal massive damage towards on Frillish.(add period) as well as Pawniard and Krokorok get a special mention, as they can trap Frillish with Pursuit trapping it with Pursuit, but do not appreciate getting burned.

**Electric-types**: Zebstrika, Raichu, Luxray, and Rotom-F can deal significant amounts of damage towards on Frillish. Rotom-F can also Trick Frillish a Choice Scarf and render it almost useless from there. These Pokemon can also gain momentum on Frillish by using Volt Switch if it switches out.

**Residual Damage**: Residual damage from Toxic, burn, and entry hazards,(add comma) and, most notably, Toxic, can cause Frillish to be worn down quickly and can make it easy to revenge kill. Mainly Toxic Spikes as well as Toxic from an opposing Pokemon are the most detrimental towards Frillish and mean it cannot stay on the field for a long span of time.

**Taunt**: Taunt users such as Dodrio and Grumpig can take severely damage cripple Frillish by temporarily taking away from its access to important status moves and can take Scalds from it well.
GP 1/2 my friend
 
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REMEMBER: foes = opposing Pokemon, while opponents = opposing players.
Frillish can be an effective spinblocker due to its Water / Ghost typing. It also has the added ability to counter highly ranked prominent Pokemon such as Poliwrath and non-Knock Off Simipour thanks to Water Absorb. Frillish faces competition from Misdreavus, which can spinblock, Taunt, and burn opponents foes, (RC) and has better defensive and Speed stats. It also faces competition from Gourgeist-XL, which can spinblock and has solid uninvested offensive stats and reliable recovery, while though it lacks lacking Taunt. Frillish has very solid base Special Defense, but suffers from a low Defense stat. Frillish is also incredibly weak to Knock Off and most physical moves, seeing as it relies mostly on its Eviolite. Unlike most walls in the tier, Frillish has reliable recovery and access to Eviolite; however, Frillish is almost useless without Eviolite, and its low base Speed can make it easy to Taunt.

[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Recover
move 2: Scald
move 3: Will-O-Wisp / Toxic
move 4: Night Shade
item: Eviolite
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Recover allows Frillish to heal damage it has received foe and can help stall an opponent a foe until a field condition ends or they die faint to status effects. Scald allows Frillish to get off some damage on opponents foes and holds the potential to burn an opponent them as well. Will-O-Wisp allows Frillish to take on physical attacks a bit better and offers chip damage on the side. Toxic can be used over this instead to allow for more chip damage at the loss of crippling physical attackers. Night Shade allows Frillish to deal damage on Pokemon that resist Scald and is not crippled by deals fixed damage, somewhat alleviating Frillish's weak base low Special Attack.

Set Details
========

Maximum Special Defense and HP with a Calm Nature allows Frillish to take s(lowercase s)pecial hits as well as it can. Eviolite adds to its solid Special Defense and weak Defense. Water Absorb gives Frillish a small niche and the ability to beat Poliwrath and Simipour, as well as not running the risk of getting burnt burned (use the American spelling) by Scald.

Usage Tips
========

Don't switch in or keep Frillish in against most physical attackers, as they can deal massive damage to it; however, there are exceptions, such as Pokemon locked into a Fighting- or Normal-type move. If you need Frillish to consistently take on special attackers, it has to stay healthy and use Recover when it can. Frillish should only use Will-O-Wisp in situations where it expects a physical attacker to switch in, (RC) or when it needs some chip damage on an opposing wall. Taunt from an opposing Pokemon can take away instant burn and recovery from Frillish's ability to burn foes and reliably heal itself, crippling it severely. Use Frillish to block a Rapid Spin from an opposing Pokemon, but be wary when faced against Armaldo, which can use Knock Off on it. It should also be wary against Pokemon that may carry Toxic, such as Avalugg and Torkoal. Most of the time, switch Frillish in against a Poliwrath or Simipour to wall them, unless Poliwrath has revealed Toxic or Simipour has revealed Knock Off. Scald or Will-O-Wisp should be used early-(AH) in the game to cripple opponents foes.

Team Options
========

Frillish works well with Pokemon that are weak to special Water-types such as Piloswine, Torterra, Ninetales, Probopass, Aurorus, and Golem, which are weak to special Water-types (moved this b/c the mons you mentioned are clearly not Water-types). Frillish appreciates Heal Bell support from Pokemon such as Togetic and Lickilicky to heal off status effects and allow it to stay on the field for longer. It works better on balance or semi-stall teams, as it doesn't offer much offensive presence and needs Pokemon to take physical moves for it. Frillish only fits on a team with entry hazard setters such as Roselia, Quilladin, Probopass, Piloswine, and Golem, as it does best is adept at blocking a Rapid Spin. On the same page In a similar vein, Frillish should be paired with a Defiant user such as Pawniard and or Purugly to further deter the use of entry hazard removal. Frillish appreciates Pokemon to take physical hits for it such as Torkoal, Togetic, Stunfisk, and Avalugg. Mainly, it appreciates Pokemon to that take Knock Off, such as Poliwrath, Machoke, and Probopass. Pokemon such as Roselia, Tangela, Zebstrika, and Pawniard have solid defensive synergy with Frillish, (AC) seeing as they take on each other'(apostrophe)s weaknesses.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Frillish could run a physically defensive set to better take on opponents foes such as Carracosta, Piloswine, and Golem better and make its defenses more balanced. Frillish could utilize Ice Beam to take on Pokemon such as Torterra and Jumpluff better, as well as or it can run Shadow Ball to deal more damage to Ghost-types such as Misdreavus and Gourgeist. In addition, Frillish can run Hex to get more damage against an opponent foe in combination with status effects. Taunt can be used to stop Pokemon from using status moves and attempting to set up, but Frillish is too slow to use it effectively.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Physical Attackers**: Pokemon such as Stoutland, Sawsbuck, Pawniard, Barbaracle, Dodrio, Mightyena, Jumpluff, and Ursaring can deal huge amounts of damage and almost guarantee a KO against Frillish. Frillish can attempt to burn them, but Stoutland can use that to its advantage with a Scrappy Facade.

**Grass-types**: Grass-type Pokemon such as Torterra, Roselia, Jumpluff, Sawsbuck, and Leafeon can deal massive damage against Frillish with their Grass-type STAB moves and take minimal damage from Scald, although they don't appreciate a burn. Roselia can set up Spikes or Toxic Spikes as well.

**Dark-types**: Pawniard, Mightyena, and Zweilous can all deal massive damage on to Frillish. Pawniard and Krokorok get a special mention, as they can trap Frillish with Pursuit, but the ladder latter doesn't appreciate getting burned.

**Electric-types**: Zebstrika, Raichu, Luxray, and Rotom-F can deal significant amounts of damage on to Frillish. Rotom-F can also Trick Frillish a Choice Scarf and render it almost useless from there. These Pokemon can also gain momentum on Frillish by using Volt Switch if it switches out.

**Residual Damage**: Residual damage from burn, entry hazards, and, most notably, Toxic, can cause Frillish to be worn down quickly and can make it easy to revenge kill.

**Taunt Users**: Taunt users such as Dodrio and Grumpig can severely cripple Frillish by temporarily taking away its access to important status moves.

Much better this time!
GP 2/2
 
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queez

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lol the opponents/foes mixup is 100% my bad, could've sworn it was the other way around. sry x_x
 

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