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Project Lure that Threat SM OU Edition - Week 9: Clefable
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Icium Z Manaphy and Flynium Z Landorus-T
Hey, sorry for being late with updating this.
With that, the winners are Dragonium Z Zygarde by écarlate, Icium Z Manaphy by Eclipse, and Flyinium Z Landorus-T by nameless90. The other winner has been chosen as Grassium Z Tapu Bulu by Riddikulusness. Congrats all, you'll be added to the archive. The next round will be up soon, thanks everyone for participating!
Dragonium Z Zygarde by écarlate 6
Grassium Z Tapu Bulu by Riddikulusness 1
Flyinium Z Thundurus by askov
Icium Z Manaphy by Eclipse 4
Firium Z / Dragonium Z Garchomp by Random Passerby 3
Flyinium Z Landorus-T by nameless90 4
Flyinium Z Tapu Koko by Corazan.. 1
Choice Specs Keldeo by Martin 2
Icium Z Magearna by Ramses
Buginium Z Excadrill by HC
Sludge Wave Thundurus by GnralLao
Grassium Z Tapu Bulu by Riddikulusness 1
Flyinium Z Thundurus by askov
Icium Z Manaphy by Eclipse 4
Firium Z / Dragonium Z Garchomp by Random Passerby 3
Flyinium Z Landorus-T by nameless90 4
Flyinium Z Tapu Koko by Corazan.. 1
Choice Specs Keldeo by Martin 2
Icium Z Magearna by Ramses
Buginium Z Excadrill by HC
Sludge Wave Thundurus by GnralLao
With that, the winners are Dragonium Z Zygarde by écarlate, Icium Z Manaphy by Eclipse, and Flyinium Z Landorus-T by nameless90. The other winner has been chosen as Grassium Z Tapu Bulu by Riddikulusness. Congrats all, you'll be added to the archive. The next round will be up soon, thanks everyone for participating!
Week 3: Defensive Landorus-T
Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 24 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power Ice
- U-turn
This set has been popular since the BW era due to its consistency as a Stealth Rock setter and ability to take on a plethora of threatening Pokemon in the OU metagame, namely Zygarde, Garchomp, Excadrill, Mega Charizard X, Magearna, and Magnezone. EQ for STAB, HP Ice for opposing Lando and Zygarde, and U-turn for the ability to act as a pivot. Nominations will close on the 4th, good luck!
Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 24 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power Ice
- U-turn
Garchomp @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Stealth Rock
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Stealth Rock
Lando-T can normally switch in freely into Garchomp, who cannot really harm it while unboosted. Swords Dance allows Garchomp to double its Atk, allowing Garchomp to OHKO Lando-T with a +1 Devastating Drake after Stealth Rock or chip damage.
Scolipede @ Waterium Z
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Megahorn
- Aqua Tail
- Earthquake / Poison Jab
Defensive Landorus-T takes pretty much nothing from both of Scolipede's STABs, even after a Swords Dance boost, and it's immune to Earthquake, making it a solid check to Scolipede. However, with the combination of Waterium Z + Aqua Tail, Scolipede ca actually OHKO Landorus-T almost every time with a +1 (Swords Dance + Intimidate) Hydro Vortex.
+1 252 Atk Scolipede Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 378-446 (98.9 - 116.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
+1 252 Atk Scolipede Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 378-446 (98.9 - 116.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
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Dragonite @ Dragonium-Z
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ice Punch
- Outrage
- Extreme Speed/Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
252 Atk Dragonite Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 268-316 (70.1 - 82.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Dragonite Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 400-472 (104.7 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Dragonite Devastating Drake (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 253-298 (66.2 - 78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Z-Dragon Dance has a nice perk towards Intimidate users, because it resets the user's stats lowered, and thus you can proceed to set-up to dish out a +1 Atk move out of nowhere.
You can even use a Z-boosted Outrage if you don't need to reset your lowered stats before boosting Dragonite with Dragon Dance.
Ice coverage is really helpful in many situations, even if you have to forget to hit Scizor or Ferrothorn without boosts. Scizor and Ferrothorn are easily answered anyway, because they are quite passive or predictable.
In the last slot I really like Earthquake over Extremespeed, which is good, but not so good due to being unstabbed and Psychic Terrain is a thing this generation.
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Mawile-Mega @ Mawilite
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Ice Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Thunder Punch / Fire Fang
Ice Punch Mawile is a really cool lure to Defensive Lando-T because Lando-T is a common pivot against Mega Mawile. Normally Lando can come in on you and force you out with an EQ, but Ice Punch is an OHKO after rocks (most of the time), even with the intimidate drop, whereas Play Rough isn't even a 2HKO. Ice Punch Mawile is something that I have used in the past and have found success with. You can run either TPunch or Fire Fang as a last move depending on what your team needs.
-1 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 148-175 (38.7 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
-1 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 328-388 (85.8 - 101.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
-1 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 328-388 (85.8 - 101.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
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Tyranitar @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Pursuit
- Ice Beam
Lando is a fantastic switchin to your typical ttar set, but loses to this one 1v1.
4 SpA Tyranitar Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 24 SpD Landorus-Therian: 292-344 (76.4 - 90%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 272-324 (79.7 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Scarf lets you outspeed and win, albeit with less than 20% HP. Tho in practice ttar for lando is generally a bad trade. Grab some chip so beam KOs the first time.
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me said:Scizor-Mega @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 116 Def / 128 SpD / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Roost
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Lando-T is a fairly standard switch in to M-Sciz in order to get off an intimidate, force some Helmet damage or to try and set up an SD, while -1 Scizor is doing minuscule damage back. However, thanks to boasting a great ability in technician, it can fire off an HP Ice in order to 2HKO defensive versions of Landorus.
0- SpA Technician Scizor-Mega Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 24 SpD Landorus-Therian: 192-228 (50.2 - 59.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Landorus-Therian @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Fly
- Stealth Rock / Substitute / Rock Polish
Landorus-T is often used to pivot into itself. This set aims to nuke the defensive set with its Z crystal after an SD and perhaps increase the potential of a Scarfchomp sweep or even make a CB Zygarde's life easier. The last slot is team dependent – rocks if there are no other setters, Substitute to ease stallbreaking or Rock Polish to sweep late game.
+1 252 Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 369-435 (96.5 - 113.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
+1 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 216+ Def Landorus-Therian: 405-477 (106 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Not too many this round, but time for voting!
Waterium Z Scolipede
HP Ice Mega Scizor
HP Ice Mega Scizor
Waterium Z Scolipede and Flyinium Z Landorus
HP Ice Mega Scizor
Dragonium Z Garchomp by Random Passerby 3
Waterium Z Scolipede by écarlate 3
Z-Dragon Dance Dragonite by nameless90
Ice Punch Mega Mawile by Riddikulusness 2
Choice Scarf Ice Beam Tyranitar by volx757
Hidden Power Ice Mega Scizor by HC 4
Flyinium Z Landorus-T by ayman x 1
Waterium Z Scolipede by écarlate 3
Z-Dragon Dance Dragonite by nameless90
Ice Punch Mega Mawile by Riddikulusness 2
Choice Scarf Ice Beam Tyranitar by volx757
Hidden Power Ice Mega Scizor by HC 4
Flyinium Z Landorus-T by ayman x 1
With that, this week's winners are Dragonium Z Garchomp by Random Passerby, Waterium Z Scolipede by écarlate, and Hidden Power Ice Mega Scizor by HC. As for the other winner, this one was a super tough choice but I think I'll lean towards Ice Punch Mega Mawile by Riddikulusness. Was seriously considering ttar too though. Next round will be up shortly!
Week 4: Standard Ferrothorn
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Knock Off / Protect / Gyro Ball
Standard utility Ferro, not a lot to say here. Choice of hazards is up to you; Spikes support is super useful on basically any team at the moment, but Rocks are an option if you don't have another setter. Leech Seed somewhat makes up for Ferrothorn's lack of reliable recovery and allows you to wear down stuff quickly. Power Whip is the main STAB move and hits Ash-Greninja and Fini. The last slot is up to you; Knock Off has the utility of removing items and preventing Leftovers recovery, while Protect allows you to get back more health with Leech Seed. I personally kinda despise Gyro Ball but you can take that into account too if you want to I guess lol. EVs let you take a boosted Ice Beam from the rare Manaphy. Good luck!
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Impish Nature
- Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Knock Off / Protect / Gyro Ball
Also on a different note, I'm planning on posting the reasoning for why I chose the "other winner" from now on if I have the time, just to make it a little more clearer and explain my decision to people who want to know.
Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Aqua Jet
- Superpower
- Knock Off
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Superpower vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 320-378 (90.9 - 107.3%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Ferrothorn is so passive that you need really low prior damage.
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Superpower vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 632-744 (98.4 - 115.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 452-534 (117 - 138.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
This set forgets Waterfall (strong, but you can't use the side effect that much and Fire types have usually more Spe and coverage that KO Azumarill before you can land an attack) in order to use CB Superpower to muscle through Ferrothorn, Heatran and Chansey.
I'd like to underline that you can use Aqua Jet even twice towards Fire types, but not two Waterfall because you are so slow.
This set works because generally you run or Knock Off or Superpower, so if you show the former, you can catch your opponent off guard the following time you switch in&out.
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Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Recover
- Hidden Power Fire
Ferrothorn resists both Dragon and Psychic-type attacks, and it has naturally high bulk, so it seems like a great Latios check. However, Latios can ru HP Fire to lure in Ferrothorn and 2HKO it on the switch.
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 265-312 (75.2 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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