Project Lure that Threat V2

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Manaphy @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Tail Glow
- Rain Dance
- Scald
- Psychic

This is a pretty cool way to lure Amoonguss and Venusaur. Manaphy avoids the 2HKO from standard defensive Amoonguss and OHKOs after a tail glow. You don't lose much as this set would normally run energy ball or psychic anyway. Starmie and Slowbro will be a bit more difficult, but not really much of a bother imo. There's an extra calc if you happen to have three spikes up as well.

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 140-168 (41 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

+3 252 SpA Manaphy Psychic vs. 252 HP / 96 SpD Amoonguss: 438-516 (101.3 - 119.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 140-168 (41 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Hostel said:
manaphy.gif

Manaphy @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Tail Glow
- Rain Dance
- Scald
- Psychic

This is a pretty cool way to lure Amoonguss and Venusaur. Manaphy avoids the 2HKO from standard defensive Amoonguss and OHKOs 87.5% of the time without SR or spikes after a tail glow. You don't lose much as this set would normally run energy ball or psychic anyway. Starmie and Slowbro will be a bit more difficult, but not really much of a bother imo.

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 140-168 (41 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

+3 252 SpA Manaphy Psychic vs. 252 HP / 120 SpD Amoonguss: 426-502 (98.6 - 116.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

+3 252 SpA Manaphy Psychic vs. 252 HP / 120 SpD Amoonguss: 426-502 (98.6 - 116.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

+3 252 SpA Manaphy Psychic vs. 252 HP / 120 SpD Amoonguss: 426-502 (98.6 - 116.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes
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Ice Beam does the exact some thing tho
 
Me and ur mom said:
Ice Beam doesnt hit venu tho
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The purpose of this thread is to create and find effective lures to a selected mon using unusual moves, spreads, items, etc. If a certain "lure move" hits other common threats that would normally counter, than its effectiveness and reliability as a lure is increased. The fact that Manaphy already OHKOes at +3 with Ice Beam, a pretty common move, (btw Hostel, you're using the wrong spread in your calcs, so please use 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD for Amoonguss instead) means it simply isn't going to lure Amoonguss at all.
 
GnralLao said:
The purpose of this thread is to create and find effective lures to a selected mon using unusual moves, spreads, items, etc. If a certain "lure move" hits other common threats that would normally counter, than its effectiveness and reliability as a lure is increased. The fact that Manaphy already OHKOes at +3 with Ice Beam, a pretty common move, (btw Hostel, you're using the wrong spread in your calcs, so please use 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD for Amoonguss instead) means it simply isn't going to lure Amoonguss at all.
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I didn't notice that. I'll fix it. Someone really needs to fix the sets on the calculator. ;-; They're always wrong.
 
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Natural Gift Flying Breloom
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Psychic Mega Diancie
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Life Orb Clefable
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Natural Gift Flying/Fire Azumarill
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Belly Drum Knock Off Azumarill
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Choice Specs HP Flying Keldeo
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Choice Band Return Azumarill
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Fire Blast Mega Altaria
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Outrage Mega Altaria
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Choice Specs Extrasensory Raikou
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Psychic Manaphy
 
Voting is over and our winner through voting are Natural Gift Flying Breloom! Our other winners are Psychic Mega Diancie and Fire Blast Mega Altaria!

Honorable Mentions include Outrage Mega Altaria, Choice Specs HP Flying Keldeo, and Belly Drum Knock Off Azumarill!

Natural Gift Flying Breloom: 6
Psychic Mega Diancie: 5
Fire Blast Mega Altaria: 2
Outrage Mega Altaria: 2
Choice Specs Extrasensory Raikou: 1
 
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