NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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the sheer bullheadedness and stupidity of josh's OMGUS 1v1 death match makes me think hes town but the fact he gunned for king for "personal attacks" despite it being obvious retard town and is now trying to set up ANOTHER mislynch while at the same time diverting away from a leet lynch (lets be real, thats exactly what is happening when he demands we lynch between him and me)

it seems like whoever most vocally scumreads josh or calls him out on any given day becomes his next tunnel. this is a piss poor way to play tbh. DEATH TO MY OPPOSITION is either early sam whose town meta was to scumread anyone who disagreed with him or scumread him and mislynch noob towns right and left or a mafia who just cant stop being defensive when someone susses him out and would rather just get rid of the threat asap.

anw gonna reread now and quote what i find most interesting
 
the sheer bullheadedness and stupidity of josh's OMGUS 1v1 death match makes me think hes town but the fact he gunned for king for "personal attacks" despite it being obvious retard town and is now trying to set up ANOTHER mislynch while at the same time diverting away from a leet lynch (lets be real, thats exactly what is happening when he demands we lynch between him and me)

it seems like whoever most vocally scumreads josh or calls him out on any given day becomes his next tunnel. this is a piss poor way to play tbh. DEATH TO MY OPPOSITION is either early sam whose town meta was to scumread anyone who disagreed with him or scumread him and mislynch noob towns right and left or a mafia who just cant stop being defensive when someone susses him out and would rather just get rid of the threat asap.

anw gonna reread now and quote what i find most interesting
bullshit narrative. if this was scum defending their partner as you suggest then we'd now he losing 2 scum, including 1 widely townread, for 1 town. that's shitty as fuck and you know it.
 
btw not saying I necessarily think Texas and yeti is svs but don't write that off, their interactions being svs are not out of the realm of possibility

this is preemptive in case yeti flips scum and late game that is a point. I won't be alive much longer either way because if yeti flips red I'm being shot and green means I'm being lynched
 
oh this vote tracking sheet is interesting

jalmont:
#34 Asek #127 Texas #158 Haruno #236 Texas #237 Unvote #363 Walrein #520 Haruno

if i assume my townread on asek is right he's voted 3/4 town on d1 so i would assume texas is also town from that. esp bc he votes him twice, like haruno. seems unnecessary otherwise

king:
#7 Shubaka #165 Unvote #285 Haruno #478 Ullar #530 Haruno
#752 Shubaka #832 Ullar #855 Texas #1224 Hitmonleet

bunch of $#!% votes onto town. note to self shubaka is now empoof.

haruno:
#19 Aubisio #69 Knights #90 Walrein #425 Asek #617 Ullar

more $#!% votes onto town

hawkie:

#38 Paperblade #54 Walrein #61 Jalmont #206 Hitmonleet #325 Ullar
#678 Former Hope #721 Unvote #791 Hitmonleet #951 King_ #1070 Hitmonleet
#1309 Yeti #1324 Hitmonleet #1325 Unvote

hmm. hawkie could have voted 2 scum on d1 but 1 is pretty early in so likely rvs. d2 hawkie again has a lot of vote movement. i find it somewhat unlikely hawkie is a hitmonleet partner as that seems like a lot of votes onto leet, very early on. i guess i dont know hawkie's meta to say if early bussing would be common.
wondering what the reason for the vote on me today is. i think if josh is scum and hitmonleet is somehow not his partner, hawkie could be a josh scumbuddy and they planned the mislynch push. i find this unlikely, tho.

walrein:

#102 Josh #210 Unvote #489 Haruno

walrein's 102 is pretty interesting because he says jalmont breaks town then he winds up shooting jalmont; i am interested in seeing what changed.

blazade:

#14 Paperblade #255 Moody #274 Ullar #296 Hitmonleet #326 Unvote #409 Ullar
#736 King_ #1089 Hitmonleet
#1288 Hitmonleet

personally i find blazade's quantity of vote movements interesting. i dont remember if he did this as town in dbz. he then sticks on 2 of the top d2 wagons for all of d2. Convenient. ill need to read over why he voted ullar, twice, and stuck on king, but it seems Odd blazade is content voting such easy lynches. i feel like town!blazade would be more active in trying to dissuade against poor lynch targets instead of jumping on them. maybe he has a compelling reason why he voted ullar but that he parks his vote on king then switches to leet (and thus didnt vote the mislynch) d2 seems really Odd after d1.

koc:

#16 Moody #128 Unvote #527
Haruno
#663 Shubaka #966 Hitmonleet

hm i find koc's posts and effort a lot more towny than i find his votes. moody/shubaka/leet are ppl i feel can often be scumread for stuff i dont see and maybe arent the best at defending themselves when someone decides to apply pressure; haruno is also an easy and obvious mislynch. maybe he has reasons he never votes anyone more controversial in his posts but i find this vote pattern shady.

pblade/cake:

#268 Moody #305 Hitmonleet #458
King_
#895 Ironic Double #1027 Texas
#1302 Hitmonleet

im gonna echo my sentiments from above that i dislike how pblade seemed to have gone for convenient votes; pancake looks better. ID and texas are at least more Interesting votes we haven't really seen above. texas has jalmont and king voting him so 2 anti-town ppl. Huh.

fh/id:

#83 Asek #99 Hawkie #304 Unvote

#887 Hitmonleet
#1314 Hitmonleet

you know i really dislike this voting pattern. 2 of my townreads and then parking on hitmonleet for d2. i dont see much of a progression from these votes and again i think leet is an Easy lynch. if leet is town i would venture ironic double is very likely mafia. stay out of the king/ullar/haruno shenanigans (fh's choice) then park on leet hoping for an easy mislynch and still look town bc a lot of people are Doin It

moody:

#106 Former Hope #270 Knights #584 Ullar
#702 Knights #814 Ullar #843 King_

hm moody has a bit of a mixed bag of votes without knowing 1 of fh or knights' flips. most saliently, fh's. the ullar/king votes are again low hanging fruit but i think the fh/knights votes at least show diversity. i'm not sure who moody would be buddying with the votes if he was newer scum trying to blend in. half his votes seem independent. wish he had done more around EoD2 as his vote gets parked on king for a long time.

hitmonleet:

#112 Josh

#1320 Josh #1333 Unvote

??? hitmonleet didnt vote at all d2? i like the josh votes but Dislike how his vote was parked on josh and never seems to have evolved d1, or manifested d2. Hitmonleet explanation for your electoral abstinence?

asek:

#3 Aubisio #24 Haruno #28 Walrein #32 King_ #82 Former Hope #278 King_ #484 Ullar
#1194 Blazade #1218 King_

hmmmm there is a LOT of green in asek's votes. also asek didnt vote for most of d2 when there are a lot of d1 votes. though asek also didnt vote for like the last half of d1 after parking on ullar. i just find these patterns Interesting, a lot of RVS votes but once things got more serious asek's vote was held pretty conservatively. i could see mafiasek using those rvs townvotes as fishing for what might stick onto noobtowns who cant defend themselves (exception: walrein) but then asek sticks his vote onto ullar after not fishing ullar so i find this unlikely. something strikes me as off about the d1 and d2 votes in comparison to each other so maybe Asek would like to explain why he made way more early D1 votes and much fewer D2. actually im also curious why you havent hopped on the leet wagon?

texas:

#84 Haruno #195 Jalmont #279 King_ #471 Knights #511 Hitmonleet #562 Ullar #622 Haruno
#689 King_ #1075 Hitmonleet #1222 King_
#1299 Hitmonleet #1434 Josh

i see texas's votes as somewhat opportunistic as well, in that they are mostly onto people whose attempts to defend themselves will probably get them lynched. D2 is probably the most opportunistic in that it switches between king and leet. texas as a leet partner doesnt make a TON of sense because texas switches to king off leet which would 'save' him then promptly decides to lynch him d3. im not sure texas would agree to hard bus leet d3 after his d2 "save" switch. that said from texas's votes i would probably lean town. theres also a vote on josh the sheet just got updated with now?

flyhn/ullar/me:

#116 King_ #283 Hawkie #615 Haruno
#907 Josh #957 Texas

i dislike this slot's d1 votes but they also weren't me. that said a fair few peoples' votes were parked on ullar at the end of the day and texas changed his to haruno after ullar voted haruno, so i think the haruno vote was self-preservation on ullar's part. my d2 votes were my skimscumreads + i was lurking deadline to ensure no tie. i didnt vote either wagon bc i hadnt had time to read on hitmonleet and my king iso had me at inconclusive not surprised if mislynch.

aubisio/dle/fort:

#611 Haruno
#1050 King_

$#!% votes. this slot has been subbed twice due to inactivity like my own. so i guess it hasnt been active enough to vote much. still. $#!% votes.

josh:

#10 Knights #53 Shubaka #149 Walrein #184 King_ #583 Hitmonleet
#662 King_ #910 Unvote #1006 Yeti #1020 Unvote #1072 Hitmonleet #1099 Unvote #1154 King_ #1155 Hitmonleet #1156 King_
#1364 Yeti

i pretty clearly dislike josh's votes if you've been reading the rest. knights + shupoof TRs, me, king the obv mislynch, leet the easy target. texas at least has jalmont and asek has blazade/fh for likely-scums beyond hitmonleet. removing rvs knights/shu votes still leaves a lot of green and leet in his votes. once rvs ends it seems like josh just tunnels on 3 people (and before i sub in they're all easy targets) he can get likely mislynches off. maybe he genuinely townreads all the Better players but his votes are easy once rvs ends.

shubaka/empoof:

#113 Asek #227 Blazade #256 Asek
#1198 Blazade #1267 King_

dislike the double asek votes d1 from shubaka not sure if explanation in those posts yet. like this slot's distaste for blazade this game.

this may not be useful for the ppl who have been in the game since the start but needing to play catchup i felt looking at the votes would at least let me see who's moving and who's been totally neglected in the votes.

if you look at how much vote activity was centered around king (town) it implies, to me, hitmonleet could be much of the same. i hope to gain a more solid concrete upon reading the thread on leet one way or the other but rn i just feel like there are SO many people okay with the king and leet lynches (for 3 days now) scum wouldn't have been bussing leet d1 and weren't bussing king at all. this is also true to a lesser degree about my slot.
 
more concrete opinion* tfw

hitmonleet's voting pattern is Bad but vote placement is Good but the rest of the game's vote patterns around him give me pause he's actually scum. in popcorn the goal was to hard bus every day all day but in this format i'm just not sure his team would start bussing him d1.

ppl who d1 voted leet:

hawkie
blazade
pblade
texas
josh

so 3/5 townreads 1/5 leanscum 1/5 noob 1v1 regardless of alignment kek.

d2 leet votes:

king
hawkie
blazade
koc
ironic double
texas
josh

d3 leet votes:

hawkie
blazade
pancake
ironic double
texas

3 of these people have been on leet all 3 days.

if leet is mafia, i find it very unlikely his teammates include:
hawkie
blazade
texas

i find it more likely he got a teammate on his bus in:
ironic double

josh is 100% trying to divert off a hitmonleet lynch today BUT has been on leet d1 and d2 and probably would be on him again today if he hadn't decided to retard tunnel.

@ those who have played with josh more, if hitmonleet is mafia do you find it likely josh would vote his teammate d1/d2, maybe in the hopes of Looking Good For Lategame but not actually getting leet lynched? or would josh not bother with any sort of early bus in this format?
 
@ those who have played with josh more, if hitmonleet is mafia do you find it likely josh would vote his teammate d1/d2, maybe in the hopes of Looking Good For Lategame but not actually getting leet lynched? or would josh not bother with any sort of early bus in this format?
honestly josh is capable of anything

this feels a shade more like his scum meta than his town meta, maybe 60/40
 
Just by the by if hitmonleet flips town I think asek is scum
interesting i would think asek could be a viable teammate for scum!leet due to the absence of votes onto leet. i actually misread this post as if leet flips scum asek is scum then reread.

im gonna read the thread now that ive reviewed the votes so i know where im heading with whats most interesting. i intend to check out what asek has said about hitmonleet in great detail.

asek was fine with being on the mislynch for king and would-be ullar so i find it odd he'd stay out of hitmonleet's mislynch but not those two.
 
before i read heres where im at

1. Hawkie
3. Blazade
5. KnightsofCydonia
7. Paperblade->Pancake

9. Former Hope->Ironic Double
10. MoodyCloud
11. Hitmonleet
12. Asek
13. Texas Cloverleaf
14. Flyhn->Ullar->Yeti
15. Aubisio->Da Letter El->Fort Colorcastle
16. Josh
17. shubaka17->Empoof
 
as i was readin thru what's happened so far i was searching for how to describe how i felt about Walrein's posts and he done it for me. from a tonal standpoint i feel like he's being disingenuous because i really have no memory of him ever being this wishy-washy
not a fan of this hawkie post about walrein

walrein is a fairly easy townread and we know now is town. this isnt even 40 posts into the game and he says wishy washy about walrein??? iunno. strikes me as off.
 
So I'm going to idle significantly less this game than I normally do, because I want to become the very best, like no one ever was better than I currently am at NOC. Like the activity, don't like the content from Asek, but it's literally about an hour into game. Hawkie/Walrein is nice of them to allow us to start to read them, so keep up the bant
doesnt this dude sub out in like another 24 hours
 
interesting i would think asek could be a viable teammate for scum!leet due to the absence of votes onto leet. i actually misread this post as if leet flips scum asek is scum then reread.

im gonna read the thread now that ive reviewed the votes so i know where im heading with whats most interesting. i intend to check out what asek has said about hitmonleet in great detail.

asek was fine with being on the mislynch for king and would-be ullar so i find it odd he'd stay out of hitmonleet's mislynch but not those two.
The main reason I jumped on the hitmonleet wagon d2 was to look at people's reactions. When it looked like leet would be the lynch Asek hard defended him and attacked the leet voters for their reasoning up until I switched back to king. Now I could totally see this being town!asek fed up about a switch off of someone she thought was scum but IF leet flips town it looks much more to me like asek trying to get towncred for defending him when he's still obvious future mislynch potential while looking aggro townie in her attacks on the voters
 
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