Mid-Game Evolutions

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Mid-Game Evolutions

We've had enough time, we'll run the first vote through, then we'll figure out what order to do the second vote run in if need be. Arguments in the thread above if you need them.

Should Mid-Battle Evolutions be kept?
Yes
No

A vote for YES will retain mid-battle evolutions in ASB, and will run into further voting.
A vote for NO removes mid-battle evolutions from ASB,

Majority wins.
 
Yes

Honestly, just allowing it with visible, codified restrictions is a lot better than outright banning it — questions over validities can be addressed through several means like approvers or some other reliable method, the loss of 20 EN can hurt you in the long term, & several other things. At least give this mechanic a -chance- to work under modified conditions first before banning it... But then again, what do I know... -.-'
 
Yes

Pretty much what Its_A_Random says in the above post. I'm convinced that there is a way we can do this that is simple, makes logical sense, and (most importantly) doesn't hurt or break the game.
 
No

ask any strategic board game, overly complex and niche mechanics are just as harmful to enjoyability as broken ones
 
Yes

I originally had no, but to be honest I would be inclined to do it due to it being the easiest option. Not necessarily the best one.

I agree with IAR. Let us try developing this further before dismissing the concept entirely.
 
Tiebreaking vote eh. I'd like to see mid-battle evolutions limited but I also think that they can be a neat rarely used part of ASB.

Let's see if we can limit them appropriately to make them non stupid.

I vote Yes.
 
Very well then.

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Running all votes but the cost. IRV if it has more than 2 options, else majority.

When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
After a KO has been scored
Switch Phase
During actions (Command: Evolve)
Upon Release

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
Yes
No

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
Equal Percentage
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP
No Change

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
Yes
No
 
When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
After a KO has been scored
Switch Phase
During actions (Command: Evolve)
Upon Release

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
Yes

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
No Change
Equal Percentage
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
No
 
When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
Switch Phase
After a KO has been scored*
Upon Release
During actions (Command: Evolve)

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
No

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
No Change
Equal Percentage
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
No

*Question: Is this merely a precondition to evolution or does the Pokemon evolve at the end of the round it gets the KO? If the former, then we have to choose one of the other methods in addition to having this precondition.
 
When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
After a KO has been scored
Switch Phase
Upon Release
During actions (Command: Evolve)

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
No

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
No Change
Equal Percentage
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
No
 
When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
Switch Phase
After a KO has been scored
Upon Release
During actions (Command: Evolve)

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
No

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
Equal Percentage
No Change
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
No
 
When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
Switch Phase
During actions (Command: Evolve)
After a KO has been scored
Upon Release

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
No

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
Equal Percentage
No Change
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
No


Going for the options that (IMO) add more strategy potential to the mechanic.
 
When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
After a KO has been scored
Upon Release
Switch Phase
During actions (Command: Evolve)

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
Yes

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
Equal Percentage
No Change
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
No
 
Tallying some votes (it appears we have somewhat similar ideals):

When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
Switch Phase
After a KO has been scored
Upon Release
During actions (Command: Evolve)

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
No (Majority. 5 votes for No)

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
No Change
Switch Phase
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
No (Majority. 7 votes for No)
 
When should Mid-Battle Evolutions Occur?
After a KO has been scored
Switch Phase
Upon Release
During actions (Command: Evolve)

Should Pre-25 moves be automatically added?
No

How should we handle the evolution's HP?
No Change
Equal Percentage
Increase/Decrease by the evolution's Increase/Decrease in HP

Should an evolution be able to break the restrictions of a match (LC, NFE, etc.)?
No
 
According to Objection I still have to vote in this thread or something despite resigning, so...

No Pre-25 Moves, No HP Change, No breaking restrictions, those will happen irrespective of whatever I vote, but a 4-4 deadlock between after KO & creating an evolution phase... What do I vote for... uhhh...

Switch Phase

I kinda like this idea. Follows the natural pause idea from the anime, gives the opponent a chance to respond with a counter-evolution or a switch or something, yeah I much prefer this over the other option.

Majority in favour of Evolution Phase. Now to go back into my policy slumber unless you lot cannot make up your mind on whatever we have to vote on next. -.-'
 
OK, now we know that evolution:
  • Will follow switch phase-style mechanics
  • Will not allow the Pokemon to learn new moves mid-battle
  • Will not cause the Pokemon to gain HP if its evolved form's max HP is higher
  • Will not allow a Pokemon to bypass limitations on evolutionary stage

We need to decide the following:

How much should a Mid-Battle Evolution Cost?

But there is another concern that I raised during the vote:

Should a Pokemon be able to evolve before completing a battle in its current stage? In other words, under the current rules, a Pokemon that has 3 UC put into its EC to bring it to 3/9 prior to its first battle can use the EC it would gain from its first battle to evolve in its first battle. Should this still be legal?

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Ballot:

How much should a Mid-Battle Evolution Cost?
No Cost
20 EN
40 EN

Should a Pokemon be able to evolve before completing a battle in its current stage?
Yes
No

IRV on the first vote, single vote on the second one, and the first to majority on each wins.
 
How much should a Mid-Battle Evolution Cost?
40 EN
20 EN
No Cost

Should a Pokemon be able to evolve before completing a battle in its current stage?
No
 
How much should a Mid-Battle Evolution Cost?
40 EN
20 EN
No Cost

Should a Pokemon be able to evolve before completing a battle in its current stage?
No
 
How much should a Mid-Battle Evolution Cost?
40 EN
20 EN
No Cost

Should a Pokemon be able to evolve before completing a battle in its current stage?
Yes

* * *

So long as the evolution doesn't bypass the battle rules, I'm okay with it. But it's just me.
 
How much should a Mid-Battle Evolution Cost?
40 EN
20 EN
No Cost

Should a Pokemon be able to evolve before completing a battle in its current stage?
No

i dont really care overly much about #2 but w/e
 
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