Meloetta isn't even supposed to transform from Relic Song after she Mega Evolves. In fact, if she changes to Pirouette Forme and then Mega Evolves, she's supposed to keep her Pirouette Forme-based Mega even if she switches out.
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Also yeah, Forme Changes are supposed to be locked after Mega Evolution. Tagging
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Slayer95. Dunno if it's just Meloetta that's behaving incorrectly, but Meloetta at the last is.
I have a suggestion: Why not let Marowak also make use of Mawilite and Medichamite? It already gets the Huge Power boost with its item (Thick Club) but can't use it with a Mega Stone.
Of course, as you can see from my avatar, I'm a little biased but I think Mawilite could open up some possibilities for it with Aegislash-tier bulk (without the good typing but huge Attack instead).
Any thoughts?
Not happening. I like your logic, but the premise is intended to be simple, and that's a complication to open the way for a single Pokemon/Mega Stone combination.
Because this is ubers based, I need to ask something? What's supposed to be the banning philosophy of this meta? I don't understand this thread talks about suspects easily when it's ubers based? If you're using Ubers banning philosophy, then you should suspect this only if they are Mega Ray level of broken.
I'm not suggesting to stop talking about suspect. I feel like it's just need to be considered before banning more things in the beginning of the month.
The intended banning philosophy is closer to OU than to Ubers. So far bans have been focused on outright cancerous stuff because there's been enough cancerous stuff it's taking us a while just to get through that stuff -eg Sceptilite Heliolisk abusing Electrify, No Guard Dynamic Punch/Zap Cannon- with a handful of bans based on "This combination is competitively valid but overly good" (Cresselia, Dragonite, and the more contested Lucario), which I suspect is contributing to the confusion because very little has been banned that
wasn't an urgent, horribly uncompetitive issue.
But, again: think OU, not Ubers. Keep in mind part of what Mix and Mega does is put OU Pokemon as
competitive with Ubers. (Indeed, many teams run no Ubers at all, and Ubers are often somewhat underwhelming as teammates, as their access to regular items only provides a handful of truly notable advantages) It's probably more accurate to think of Mix and Mega as like
Gods Among Us, where Ubers are brought down to the level of OU Pokemon -I don't think anybody is under the impression Gods Among Us is using an Ubers philosophy just because Ubers are usable in the meta. Mix and Mega is kind of the flipside of that, with OU-tier Pokemon pulled up to Ubers viability, and it doesn't break the meta because
everything is that strong.
And to re-iterate a different point: so far my focus on suspects/bans has been on clearing out the cancer. I honestly don't know yet what my banning philosophy will look like once all the cancer is gone.
Just in the interest of mixing things up a bit (no pun intended), I had an idea. Since this is an Ubers based meta, why don't we give some Ubers the ability to hold mega stones? No I'm not talking about ones like Arceus (although it would be hilarious to see Red Orb Reshiram and Metagrossite Zekrom), I'm talking about the ones which were OU but then got banned. Going through the list:
Aegislash: With Mega Stones it would have to choose between a glass cannon or a weak wall. As a wall it lacks reliable recovery. As an attacker, it would either be too slow or if you gave it the Diancite it would die to anything. I personally think it would be OK.
Deoxys: Hell no, Deoxys-D/S with Banettite, A with...well pretty much anything, S with Ampharosite...no that would be too much
Darkrai: It would be like a faster, bulkier (but still frail) slightly weaker Gengar with worse defensive typing. Maybe, maybe not
Genesect: This thing would certainly be a major force given its huge movepool and Download, but then again so's Victini and that thing isn't broken. Yes Genesect is more powerful, but Victini has better bulk and stronger STABs. I think this would be OK
Greninja: No mega stone gives Protean (what made it broken in the first place), so it would simply be another fast frail attacker.
Landorus-I: What would this thing even do? It doesn't get Hyper Voice so it can't abuse -ate, the Cameruptite wrecks its Speed (although it does get Rock Polish), and it can't abuse the Pidgeottite nearly as well as Gengar, Victini and even Tornadus and Thundurus.
Shaymin-S: See Greninja
Not happening. We're still busy stabilizing the meta, and the value added isn't worth the barrier to new players.
EDIT: Also, I am amenable to using the third Reserved post for replays. Preferably give some context and description for the replays, talk a little bit about your team and what it's supposed to do, etc, so people can learn from it.
