Other My ORAS Dragon-type Mono Team

So, I have a lot of experience in mono. Mostly in Normal. But lately I have taken a particular interest in Dragon. It can A: Take hits well and B: Dish them out harder. These are the two things I always like in a Pokemon, so I've been practicing in Dragon a lot. I'd consider my team fairly good, but if you see anything wrong I'd like to know.

718.gif

Zygarde
92 HP/84 ATK/116 DEF/216 SPD
Careful Nature
Leftovers
Aura Break
Coil, Earthquake, Glare, Iron Tale

While not always a common choice on teams, especially with its seemingly useless Ability, Zygarde has served me in many ways and even saved me from being 6-0'd before. It's good HP, decent Spd, and great Def make it a great tank. With access to Coil, it gets what is essentially a Bulk Up and Hone Claws rolled into one, stopping Physical sweepers like Bisharp and Infernape in their tracks. Earthquake is a great move, and hits hard with STAB after one or two Coils. Glare is great, even though there's a chance Toxic Spikes has already statused the foe, and is especially useful on pesky Steel and Flying-types. What is also nice about it is that unlike T-wave, it can hit Ground-types. Iron Tail is another powerful move that smashes things after Coil, especially because its unappealing accuracy is patched up by Coil's boosts. It also hits Fairies and Ice-types hard, Dragon's two worst enemies, but I must always be sure to check that Zygarde is faster (which is unfortunately not often, even with decent 95 Spe, but as both types can be slow there is always a chance that I'll get an opportunity). It's EVs are meant to give it bulk. Not much was invested into Atk and Def because Coil heightens these, but much was put into SpD to keep special attackers from beating him into oblivion. Careful nature furthers this, giving him a 308 SpD. And after two nice Coils, its Atk and Def go up to 514 and 614 respectively. All in all, despite being overlooked far too often for its more offensive cousin Garchomp, Zygarde is nice, bulky dragon with a lot to offer.

715.gif

Noivern
4 HP/252 SPA/252 SPE
Timid Nature
Choice Specs
Infiltrator
Boomburst, Dragon Pulse, Flamethrower, U-turn

Just like Zygarde, most people would look elsewhere for a good special attacker. After all, 97 is more or less just okay, nothing stellar. But one thing that separates Noivern from the rest is its amazing 123 speed. Even the speedy Latios is left in the dust as its Timid nature gives it a great 379 speed, something that most of the time only Megas and Shaymin-S can out speed. This gives it the chance to wear Choice Specs rather than having to don a Scarf (and let's face it, if it didn't have its great speed I'd definitely turn to special Salamence). Boomburst is great, albeit slightly redundant with Infiltrator. Sporting 140 base power it hits hard, especially on Fairies, who would laugh at his Dragon Pulse. Dragon Pulse is still great though, and when facing other dragons it's great to be able to swoop in and snipe them before they can do any real damage, as only fellow Noiverns and Scarfed Pokemon will out speed him in a Dragon Vs Dragon monotype match. Flamethrower kills off Steel-types that would normally wall his moves, and Psychic is just my last move. A much as I really wanted Huricane on this guy, 70 accuracy is the kind of thing that loses matches, so no Flying stab... Not that I particularly need Flying, seeing as how everything weak to Flying is covered anyways, with Flamethrower getting Bugs and Grass and Psychic hitting Fighting. It's EV spread should be obvious, so I won't go into too much detail about it. Oh and Infiltrator is great for Sub-stallers and Klefki.

646-black.gif

Kyurem-Black
144 HP/252 ATK/108 DEF
Adamant Nature
Choice Band
Teravolt
Iron Head, Fusion Bolt, Outrage, Stone Edge

I can hear you breathing a sigh of relief as you finally see one of the two OU Pokemon on my team. Kyurem-B is practically used to death in mono, but it's not hard to see why. Slap a Choice Band on that thing and watch it go. Seriously, this thing hits like Godzilla. And, while its Ice-type has an annoying weakness to Stealth Rock, it provides a key neutrality to Ice-type attacks, giving me a counter for a team that would otherwise crumble against Ice. Iron Head, its first move, take particular advantage of this, smashing Ice AND Fairy, along with also hitting Rock-types, which is nifty. Fusion Bolt is mandatory, and boy does it hurt, even without STAB. Outrage is Kyurem's most powerful move, and can 2HKO most of the stuff not meant to deal with it, even 1HKOing frailer guys. Stone Edge is just there because Kyurem very sadly gets neither a physical Ice-type move OR Earthquake. I mean, it's an okay move, but with Iron Head and Fusion Bolt already there I really would have liked it if Gamefreak would just give him Icicle Crash. Oh well, I can still dream. EVs are meant to make him a physically bulky attacker, because 95 speed just isn't good enough for me to try and make him fast. Max Atk ensures he hits like a truck, and somewhat evenly spread Def and HP let's him take a hit. In a nutshell, Kyurem-B is the keystone in my team. Without him I'd get smashed by Ice-types over and over and over again.

380-mega.gif

Latias
176 HP/136 DEF/60 SPA/136 SPD
Bold Nature
Latiasite
Levitate
Dragon Pulse, Psyshock, Calm Mind, Recover

The other OU Pokemon on my team. Unlike her brother Latios, Latias would much prefer to Mega Evolve over some other item, boasting crazy defenses, usable HP, speed that other walls could only dream of, even when not invested, and great SpA for when you're ready to stop walling and start hitting. Plus great typing gives it STAB and resistances perfect for a wall, mainly fearing only Fairy, Ice, and Dark, and even then she's mostly just scared of Sucker Punch. Dragon Pulse and Psychic are my main STAB moves, hitting hard after a few Calm Mind boosts. Calm Mind sends her already crazy special stats even higher, letting her laugh at special sweepers as she racks up boosts. And Roost is, of course, very nice recovery to have. I could also do Recover, but they're basically the same, so either works. EVs are mostly geared towards bulk, a Bold nature instead of Calm because Calm Mind already helps her SpD. 60 SpA give her an at least minor boost in her already great SpA. Basically she's the icing on the cake of a bulky team. Her, Zygarde, and Goodra make a great defensive core, walling the hard hitters so Noivern and Kyurem-B can come in and start breaking necks. Also she's shiny, because shinies are just 2 gud.

691.gif

Dragalge
112 HP/224 DEF/172 SPD
Bold
Leftovers
Adaptability
Toxic Spikes, Scald, Sludge Wave, Dragon Tail

Yep, we're leaving OU to dive back down into lower tiers. Why Dragalge is left to rot in RU is beyond me though, because if there's one Pokemon who's served me well, it's this guy. Laying down traps, shuffling Pokemon around, burning sweepers. Dragalge does it all. He even kills Fairies! And with Adaptability even an utterly uninvested Pokemon hits for at least okay damage. The focus of the set is Toxic Spikes, a wonderfully useful attack on everything except Flying and Steel monos. Nothing appreciates automatic Toxic on switch-in, and it makes it all the easier to stall things out as only Zygarde carries another status move and nothing else can Toxic. Scald is sorta like the one move that got put in because I needed to fill the last slot, but it definitely has its uses. If he's already set up Toxic Spikes scald can be spammed in hope of a burn, and also helps check Hippowdon who might also be trying to set up during the early game. Sludge wave makes things much less fun for Fairies, especially because of their immunity to Dragon Tail. Speaking of Dragon Tail, this is probably the most fun move on the set. In fact, it may be the most fun move I've ever used. There's nothing more satisfying than shuffling around a team, especially with Toxic Spikes on the ground. It also makes it impossible to set up unless the opponent is a fairy. EVs make it ready to take hits so that it can at least set down its hazards. HP is high enough to make use of its defenses, and high defense makes it able to take both kinds of leads, rather than just special. And of course what's a Dragalge without high SpD, so I threw in some specially defensive EVs, too. Yes, despite being RU, Dragalge is just about the most successful member on my team, even if it dies right after two Toxic Spikes.

706.gif

Goodra
84 HP/252 DEF/32 SPA/140 SPD
Modest
Assault Vest
Gooey
Infestation, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Sludge Wave

Out of all of my Pokemon, Goodra is probably cutest. Seriously, look at this guy. AV Goodra isn't uncommon, and it's not hard to see why, either, because this guy eats special attacks like candy. It's my Fairy counter when Dragalge goes down. I don't really know what else to say for this one. Pretty generic wall. Infestation is used to whittle down bulkier Pokemon and trap enemies before they discover that Goodra carries good coverage. Dragon Pulse is strong STAB. Ice Beam hits rival Dragonites hard, as well as Flying-types in general. Lastly, there's Sludge Wave, which is how he hits back Fairies. Because even a bulky dragon won't survive a Fairy for long. A little HP to boost his bulk, a ton of Def so he can actually survive physical hits, a little SpA along with Modest to let him hit stuff, and some mandatory SpD. Other than that, there's not too much to say about Goodra. It's jut a generic special wall, who helps compliment his fellow dragons.


That's my team, I hope you like it. If you see anything outstandingly wrong, tell me. I won't guarantee that I like your suggestion, but I always consider criticism that people give me. Thanks!
 
Last edited:
This is a really well built team imo.

Personally I prefer using Dragalge to nuke other mons with Specs or Dragon Fang Draco Meteors. If you really want a defensive mon, you could run Salamence.
Bet you're a bit confused now?
Anyway Salamence has decent defenses, intimidate and access to wish and tailwind! Not to mention your opponent would be scared to death of Mega-Mence.

Also you should consider running Psyshock over Psychic to hit mons on the defensive side who might think they could wall you. Ex. Blissey. Also this usually proves more useful as most mons have weaker defense. Finally if you want to keep a special psychic move, I would really recommend Stored Power. This move hits 100 BP after 2 calm minds and can do outstanding damage.

Finally, I would stick U-turn on Noivern over Psychic to give you more momentum and possibly turn the tide of the battle in your favor.
 
Eh, I would use Dragalge offensively, especially with Adaptability, except that I really like spikes on the opponent's side. Free Toxics have saved me a lot of times. Defensive Salamence isn't too strange too me, actually, considering I used to run defensive Hydreigon! (Not everyone agreed this was a wise choice though) I never knew about Wish though. Although even with nice intimidate support I think I prefer my current walls, not because Salamence is bad but because my current three already mesh together well. I will remember it next time I'm looking for a bulky 'mon, though. I have considered Psyshock many times, especially with Blissey and Chansey running rampant, and I think with your suggestion I will finally use it. And yeah, U-turn is good. I've been thinking of using it.

Thanks!
 
really good monotype dragon
but meh,some pokemon like noivern is not really enjoable against other dragons,like dragonite
ik noivern it's special and dragonite psychical but ehi you have other 3 special mons
and there is no only dragonite,there is 3 nice option for replace Noivern

garchomp.gif
Garchomp/Garchomp mega
garchomp-mega.gif

It can set rocks and then sweep hard
really enjoable,but not really speed if mega

Sets:
ah,generally i don't explain set,but garchomp need to run anyways fire blast for skarmo ferrothorn and some other like skarm
Setter Garchomp @ Focus Sash/Rocky helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 104 HP / 148 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast

Mega SubChomp @ Garchompite
Ability: Sand Force
EVs: 248 HP / 36 Atk / 208 Def / 12 SpA
Lax Nature
- Fire Blast
- Substitute
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake

Scarfchomp @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Outrage
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Poison Jab

----------------------------------------------
dragonite.gif
Dragonite
dragonite.gif

A really enjoable sweeper and one of my favorite mon :3
Multiscale really help it
Imo he don't need weakness policy actually,now WP dragonite is predictabile and easy beated by knock off

sets:
Lum Dragonite (Dragonite) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake/Fire punch
- ExtremeSpeed
- Outrage

Bandnite (Dragonite) @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Fire Punch
- ExtremeSpeed
- Earthquake
-----------------------------

altaria-mega.gif
Mega Altaria
altaria-mega.gif


Nice typing for a dragon,nice Stats,HE'S AWESOME

Sets:
SpecialTaria (Altaria-Mega) @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Hyper Voice

- Roost
- Draco Meteor/Dragon pulse

Dancing Altaria (Altaria-Mega) @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 16 SpD / 120 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Roost
- Dragon Claw
- Return

----
K,I'm too accurate
 
All three of those are good under other circumstances, (especially Altaria! Eee, I love that thing!) but I honestly can't see them replacing Noivern. I can see Noivern getting replaced, if I find a better specs user (I would go for Latios, but its STAB is redundant with Latias) but for now he gets the job done, and with two special attackers and two heavy physical attackers, all of these would be redundant. The only one I would use is probably Mega Altaria, because that thing is amazing, but alas, Latias claims my mega spot... I do appreciate the input though. I may try to find a new specs user.
 
I really would not like to sacrifice Zygarde, and if I do sacrifice Noivern, it won't be for a luck based Pokemon. In all honestly Kingra is okay, but that's all it is: okay. Nothing about it other than Sniper is that great, and if Sniper in itself was really good then Drapion would be UU, not RU. Again, I am open to replacements of Noivern if they are good enough (and I am heavily considering Hydreigon) but as of now, I can take Ice-types. Maybe not in style, but they don't take me down without a fight. *IF SOMEONE HAS A GOOD REPLACEMENT FOR NOIVERN, THAT IS REALLY WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR, MOST PREFERABLY A NON-LATIOS SPECS USER.*
 
I suggested Critdra cause it's my favorite Kingdra set, I suggested Kingdra cause of Ice neutrality. It has other good sets as well. Chesto-Rest DD, Standard DD, Scarf Mixed Attacker, Mono Attack DD Rest Talk, but hey it's just luck based right. 4x water resist and 4x fire resist is nice to have ijs.
 
Last edited:
"but hey it's just luck based right" I honestly can't see why this had to be said since the only set you suggested was Critdra, so that was the set I refused and my reasons were geared towards that set. No need to get huffy. Again though, Kingdra is okay at best. 95 in most of its stats is unappealing to me, and if I were that desperate for a bulky DD Pokemon, I would rather look at Dragonite, Haxorus, or previously suggested bulky Salamence. I just don't like Kingdra, and that's all that really needs to be said.

I reeeeeally want Mega Altaria. Who's great idea was it to allow only one Mega Pokemon per team, anyways... ;^; Pixilate Hyper Voice is just too good.
 
yeah i can strongly recommend mega altaria on your team, replace mega latias imo. Having a dragon immunity is pretty great for a mono-dragon team imo.
 
How is CritDra luck based? Drapion can't even really abuse Sniper, and it has better sets it could run.
Also running Scald on Dragalage is really a waste since you don't run Draco Meteor. Fishing for burns with scald is what I call luck based.
Goodra and Dragalge should be running Sludge Bomb over Sludge Wave unless you have problems with lol Chesnaught.
Speaking of Goodra, it should not be running Infestation. If your opponent has a bad matchup, he'll probs switch and then your better off hitting the switch in with one of the random coverage moves it learns like Fire Blast / Tbolt / EQ etc.

I'm not really experienced in monotype but IMO this team looks really weak to other mono Dragon teams. For example Dnite can live anything from Noivern and setup a DD, then 6-0 your entire team. You should probably change Latias to a Defog set or replace it with Defog Latios since running 2 SR weak mons with no hazard removal is not a good idea. It would then probably be not worth it to run Toxic Spikes on Dragalge. BTW you really should fix your EV spreads. Running 0 speed on Kyu-B is a bad idea. IDK your EV spreads on Goodra and Zygarde seem really complicated, maybe you could show some calc for what the EVs accomplish to clear up confusion. I agree with Mega Altaria, dragon immunity on dragon is too good.
 
I agree with the others guys for Mega Alt, but with the right support Mega Latias is really hard to break through... I would suggest a set something like this..

Latias-Mega (F) @ Latiasite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
- Refresh
- Recover
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse


After fairy and Steel types are properly removed this set can really be a bitch to revenge.
I'm not trying to argue but a 100% critical hit rate with Sniper boost is hardly luck based.
 
Noivern should be replaced by Iron Head Dragonite, as your team is SpA Heavy. I like the idea of Mega-Altaria so the Dragon Dancing set would work well. Your Dragalge is just sad :( Moves for it: Sludge Wave, Focus Blast, Dragon Pulse, Scald.
 
Okay, a lot of stuff came washing in the second I turned my head! Let me have a second to soak all this info in! I'll respond to each of your comments:

mista fista nipple twista: Like I said, I really want Altaria, but unfortunately, I don't want it bad enough to use it over Latias. Mega Latias just has superior stats, and even with Fairy typing, I simply prefer Latias.

benbass: I didn't even know Lati got Recover. I just knew anything with wings got Roost, so I just searched Roost and picked that. I guess Recover is better though, so I'll go for that.

blinkie: I don't understand why everyone is in some sort of Draco Meteor frenzy with Dragalge. It's not meant to hit hard, it's meant to set up. And since Poisoning is redundant, it doesn't get T-wave, and it can't get Will-o-wisp, I like to opt for Scald. And Infestation is how I trap walls and Toxic them to death. And honestly, I'm as scarred of Dragon monos as they are of my. Dragon vs Dragon matches are always fast paced and tense because everyone just beats everyone else into oblivion. Defog is never going on Latias. Ever. It completely ruins the point of Toxic Spikes. And without Spikes Dragalge is just dead weight. And Kyurem-B is made for bulk, not speed, since with a Band over a Scarf I don't feel very safe against anything faster than me when I have speed over defenses. My EV spreads are meant to let my deal with a variety of things. I for one am not really into just one good defense, because then the other side kills you. Def and no SpD means you're really weak to special attacks, and vice versa.

Old_Gregg: Refresh is not a bad move on Latis, but then things like Chansey and the like really wall me. I liked the suggestion of Psyshock because it let me run a mixed attacker with no Atk investment. and those EVs are really just not my style, TBH. I like well spread things.

Houndoomite: First of all, like I've repeated eight-million times, I am WILLING to replace Noivern, but only with a BETTER SPECIAL Pokemon. Dragonite does not fit this criteria. If I were to replace Noivern with a pseudo it'd be Hydreigon or special Salamence if anything. Because yes, it's a specially oriented team. Sue me if you have to, but I don't need any more physical attackers. And why does everyone insist I run offensive Dragalge? If I were to edit any of my Pokemon, Dragalge would be the last because it works the best. Trust me, it is far from sad. And TBH, if Dragalge didn't have Toxic Spikes, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. It has horrible speed, can't utilize Specs like Noivern, and is all in all a worse Poison type Goodra. But Spikes turn it up a whole new notch and make it the best thing I have ever used to set up. That said, you can guess how much I'd use it if I ran your hyper offense set.

Sorry to sound a little touchy guys, but TBH, I've only found a few of these suggestions actually beneficial to my team and playstyle, like Recover, U-turn, and Psyshock.
 
Unless you want to lose to automize Vanilluxe, SD/CB Weavile, or np Jynx(all of which can slam KyuB SE) I highly suggest using another ice neutral mon. This is just an example, there are still a few other ice types that could ruin your day. That is all.
 
Ice has weaknesses but is also a great offensive type since only the pokemon Empoleon and Heatran are 4x resistant, while many more pokemon are 4x or at least 2x weak to ice.
 
I don't have to prove anything lol I'm just pointing out that ice is one of the best offensive typings, just like fairy is one of the best defensive typings. Ice types can pack a punch though, while some fairy types just don't have the bulk that we desire. I can see shit like Cloyster, Mixed Abomasnow, Mamoswine, Frosslass, Weavile, Jynx, Scarf Kyu, other Kyu-B(that have speed investment) etc.. Giving this guy a hard time because he only has Kyu-B to stop these threats.
 
I definitely agree that you should run DD Mega Altaria and possibly Banded Iron Head Dragonite. Just make Latias a typical OU LO Set, and it gives you Controlled against Bug w/ is known for Sticky Web and Hazard in general (Forretress, Shuckle, Galvantula) This also let's you not break Multiscale from Rocks if you do run Dragonite. Run this set on Latias.

Latias @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 78 HP / 178 Sp Atk / 252 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Recover/HP Fire/Healing Wish

Hope it helps :]
 
Not to sound mean but you seriously underestimate the defensive utility mega Altaria provides for your team. For example, what if you are up against an opposing dragon team and one of them sets up a dragon dance? That DD sweeper 6-0's your entire team with it's dragon STAB alone, and you also have NOTHING to combat choice scarf Kyurem-B, which also 6-0's your team. Mega Altaria checks 2 of those incredibly dangerous threats AND MORE :D
Also bulky DD Mega Altaria is super hard to stop and super easy to set up, after a couple of DDs the game is pretty much over.

Toxic spikes does seem interesting on Dragalge, as it is the only dragon type i am aware of that can accomplish such a feat, but i still dont think it's worth it. There are 2 types (poison and flying) that render toxic spikes completely useless, and they aren't that uncommon types to face on monotype, and it's not like poison types and flying types cannot be on other teams either. For example, if you're facing another dragon team, chances are they will have Dragalge to battle opposing fairy types, then Dragalge can just switch in and remove them - wasting 1 or 2 turns of setting up, and Dragalge isn't the only example. Also gets stopped by removed by defoggers. To be fair though the opponent will be giving you a free turn removing hazards, but to be honest you may as well set up rocks or something because it only takes one turn for stealth rocks to be useful and is generally more of a nuissance than toxic spikes.

Just like mega Altaria, you seriously underestimate Dragalge's power on a specs set. For example specs Dragalge sludge wave 2HKOs specially defensive mega venusaur, specs draco 2HKOs spd mega venusaur and OHKO's physically defensive venusaur. Specs draco also OHKOs assvest goodra, and just dents a whole lot of others pokemon, if not flat out OHKOing them.

Lastly, just like other people have mentioned, i can definitely recommend a choice scarfer, as otherwise your team is rediculously prone to opposing choice scarfers and setup sweepers (specifically dragon dancers). I can recommend scarfchomp as it outspeeds base 100's at +1 speed, and as an added bonus is immune to thunder wave, in fact scarfchomp so good i run scarf latios on my dragon team so i dont get shrekt by it. Or just give scarf to Kyurem-B since scarf dragon claw/outrage is still a ridiculous threat and gives you a fighting chance after opposing mega altaria sets up a dd.

That's all i have to say, I do hope you take into account the information i posted here haha
 
Back
Top