Other Metagames Pantheonic-[An Anything Goes Hyper Offensive Team]

[Mq]

Thanks to Sobi for the banner
Also Hi Synoptic !!

Hi, megaqwer here. I'm about to show you an AG HO team consisting of two of the best stall breakers in the current metagame. Lets GO!

Some music to listen to :]

I was trying out various stall teams, but wasn't getting much success. The reason for this was that HO teams put immense pressure on the teams and winning depended a lot on match-up. Therefore, I decided to try out the HO play-style and hence built this team.

"We are only as strong as we are united as weak as we are divided"

Team Building Process

TeamBuilding Process

I always choose a rock setter for my teams first. For this team I tried various options like bulky variants of Arceus, Excadrill and Fairy-Arceus. None of them seemed to work too well and I wanted to use something unique. I was unable to find one....... but my friend/tutor of past HunterStorm provided me with a very unique setter, Ghost Arceus.

The second mon I chose to put on the team was kyogre becuase it puts immense pressure on almost anything and does very well against other HO Teams. It either OHKOs or seriously damages opposing mons. Also P-Kyogre does well against stall teams that have been going around lately.

With P-Kyogre doing a lot of damage to any mon, it leaves them free to be revenge killed rather than taking them out on its own. Also, stall was something which was troubling me a bit. So there, I added M-Gar as a fast revenge killer immune to ES, and as a stall breaker

Next I added a Physical Ghost-Arceus, it gives me another check for Ekillers and something that can set-up on them and steal the game. It also helps me handle Gira a bit better

What's a HO Team without Ekillers? I added two Ekillers next thinking I had covered all other bases well. One with LO and the other with Lum + Magic Coat to handle status better.

In-Depth analysis

1)Special attackers and support pokemons

Arceus-Ghost @

Ability: Multitype
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Judgment

- Roar

- Stealth Rock

- Will-O-Wisp

Can't take credit for this set, I took it from HunterStorm. SR helps me break sashes and handle mons such as Lugia better. WoW helps me render any Physical attacker useless, unless they're immune to it. Judgment is a great STAB move to do addittional damage after you have set up rocks and burned the opposing mon. Roar is there to roar out anything that tries to set-up against it.

"I think i am a better ghost than a human being"

Kyogre @

Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind

- Origin Pulse

- Ice Beam

- Sleep Talk

The EVs maximize damage out-put while the HP investment helps Ogre absorb attacks, ES in specific, a bit more easily and a wee bit of investment in Spe to outspeed opposing P-Dons.Now moving on to moves.Origin pulse is kyogre's main move, it just blast away almost all things that doesnt resist it or deals huge damage after a Calm Mind boost.Ice beam on the other hand is a very nice coverage move to blast away the flyings types roaming in the skys.While sleep talk may seem a little weird without rest, but I'm using it for the suprise factor vs darkrai (which is one of the threats to this team.) , if I make the right plays and predict nicely, Darkrai can be brought down.


"the wave of the sea help me get back to me"​

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Gengar-Mega @

Ability: Shadow Tag
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sludge Wave

- Focus Blast

- Protect

- Destiny Bond

The evs are the most common ones used for the offensive speical attacker with a timid nature to outspeed the most of the tier and with an excellent ability to traping foe and making some of them completely useless .Focus blast is to effectively take out the Arceus Formes and do A ton yo other mons after rocks are up.Protect is to survivie while mega evolving against faster pokemons like Arceus,Rayquaza etc.Sludge Wave is Gengar's Main STAB, ostly used to deal with fairy types.

Other Options
Shadow Ball>Destiny Bond:You can use shadow ball instead of d bond if you're having trouble dealing with ghost types and mewtwo.

"The Shadows betrays you, cause they serve me."


2)All out physical attackers(Standard Evs spread)

Arceus-Ghost @

Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance

- Shadow Force

- Brick Break

- Extreme Speed

Indroduing my Fourth team member, third ghost type and the first physical attacker in this team.The EVS are standard.Starting with its most powerful and deadly attack Shadow Force, it helps me to sweep after a sword dance is under my belt through everything's which is not a Dark or Normal typed.Brick Break is basically for Arceus when they come 1V1 and Extreme speed does the priority work.

"During the day, I dont believe in ghost.At night, well I'm a bit more open minded"

Arceus @

Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed

- Swords Dance

- Earthquake

- Magic Coat

The first of my two Ekillers in this team.ExtremeSpeed is of course the premier attacking option, harnessing 120 BP after STAB at +2 Priority.Earthquake is to hit Primal Groudon, Steel types and Mega gengar super effectively.Magic Coat and Lum berry alllows me to avoid the unwanted status from common threats like Darkrai and Klefki.Sword Dance is just a standard boosting move that phyical arceus use generally.

"A bad wound may heal, but a bad name will kill"

Arceus @

Ability: Multitype
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed

- Swords Dance

- Earthquake

- Stone Edge

My second extreme killer but this one has a life orb for the extra damage.Sword dance and extreme speed are self explainary on this pokemon.Earthquake is a great coverage to damage the kinds of Steelceus and p don.Final move was stone edge to deal with Ho-oh and yveltal a bit more properly.I choose jolly over adamant because most of the times it comes against other Ekillers and loses to them eventually.

"Dont dream your life, live your dreams"​

Threats

Yveltal:The most annoying threat to this team.The offensive yveltal can be taken care of but the defensive variants are the one you need to look out for.Defensive ghost ceus can weaken it with Will-O-Wisp(Wow) and Kyogre can take it out with its powerful Origin Pulse.Arceus(Life orb) is just a backup incase both are weakened or dead.
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Arceus Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Yveltal: 398-471 (87.4 - 103.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

Darkrai:Another pokemon you need to look out for while battling.If it gets a chance to set up on my Def Ghost ceus, it can easily make a hole in my team.So, i've appointed two ekillers to deal with this and also Sleep talk on kyogre in case of emergency.

Klefki:The swagger lord of this metagame.Can take out my team if it paralyses and confuses my pokemons and foul play spams.I have Lum arceus to care of it and also 3 of my pokemon have 0 IVS for reduced foul play damage.

Xerneas:Yet another pokemon that can be a little bit annoying to handle.Can take out 90% of my team after one geomancy is up, Mega gengar and Ekillers are appointed to deal with it and also kyogre has a very little chance to survive xerneas's standard moves and return a powerful origin pulse.

+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Focus Blast vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Primal Kyogre: 192-226 (47.8 - 56.3%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO

+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Thunder vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Primal Kyogre: 352-416 (87.7 - 103.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Primal Kyogre: 303-357 (75.5 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Replays

Vs Tyler456789
Vs Arceusisjudgingyou
Vs TheHungrySage (A skilled and friendly player)
Vs Rip Ag or Ratkiller (A good battler and friend)
Vs DanteZerazVoorHeez
Vs LinearCurve One Of Ag's Fineast
Vs Sage Hane (Yet, another top tier player)
vs GunnerRohan (Another ag highly skilled trainer)

Importable

Arceus-Ghost @ Spooky Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Judgment
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Will-O-Wisp

Kyogre-Primal @ Blue Orb
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Sleep Talk

Arceus-Ghost @ Spooky Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Force
- Brick Break
- Extreme Speed

Arceus @ Life Orb
Ability: Multitype
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Arceus @ Lum Berry
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Magic Coat

Gengar-Mega @ Gengarite
Ability: Shadow Tag
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sludge Wave
- Focus Blast
- Protect
- Destiny Bond

Thanks guys for readin' my RMT!

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[QT]

Thanks to Sobi for the banner
Also Hi Synoptic !!​

Hi, megaqwer here. I'm about to show you an AG HO team consisting of two of the best stall breakers in the current metagame. Lets GO!

Some music to listen to :]​

I was trying out various stall teams, but wasn't getting much success. The reason for this was that HO teams put immense pressure on the teams and winning depended a lot on match-up. Therefore, I decided to try out the HO play-style and hence built this team.

Team Building Process

TeamBuilding Process

I always choose a rock setter for my teams first. For this team I tried various options like bulky variants of Arceus, Excadrill and Fairy-Arceus. None of them seemed to work too well and I wanted to use something unique. I was unable to find one....... but my friend/tutor of past HunterStorm provided me with a very unique setter, Ghost Arceus.

The second mon I chose to put on the team was kyogre becuase it puts immense pressure on almost anything and does very well against other HO Teams. It either OHKOs or seriously damages opposing mons. Also P-Kyogre does well against stall teams that have been going around lately.

With P-Kyogre doing a lot of damage to any mon, it leaves them free to be revenge killed rather than taking them out on its own. Also, stall was something which was troubling me a bit. So there, I added M-Gar as a fast revenge killer immune to ES, and as a stall breaker

Next I added a Physical Ghost-Arceus, it gives me another check for Ekillers and something that can set-up on them and steal the game. It also helps me handle Gira a bit better

What's a HO Team without Ekillers? I added two Ekillers next thinking I had covered all other bases well. One with LO and the other with Lum + Magic Coat to handle status better.

In-Depth analysis

1)Special attackers and support pokemons

Arceus-Ghost @

Ability: Multitype
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Judgment
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Will-O-Wisp

Can't take credit for this set, I took it from HunterStorm. SR helps me break sashes and handle mons such as Lugia better. WoW helps me render any Physical attacker useless, unless they're immune to it. Judgment is a great STAB move to do addittional damage after you have set up rocks and burned the opposing mon. Roar is there to roar out anything that tries to set-up against it.

"I think i am a better ghost than a human being"

Kyogre @

Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Sleep Talk

The EVs maximize damage out-put while the HP investment helps Ogre absorb attacks, ES in specific, a bit more easily and a wee bit of investment in Spe to outspeed opposing P-Dons.Now moving on to moves.Origin pulse is kyogre's main move, it just blast away almost all things that doesnt resist it or deals huge damage after a Calm Mind boost.Ice beam on the other hand is a very nice coverage move to blast away the flyings types roaming in the skys.While sleep talk may seem a little weird without rest, but I'm using it for the suprise factor vs darkrai (which is one of the threats to this team.) , if I make the right plays and predict nicely, Darkrai can be brought down.


"the wave of the sea help me get back to me"

Gengar-Mega @

Ability: Shadow Tag
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sludge Wave
- Focus Blast
- Protect
- Destiny Bond

The evs are the most common ones used for the offensive speical attacker with a timid nature to outspeed the most of the tier and with an excellent ability to traping foe and making some of them completely useless .Focus blast is to effectively take out the Arceus Formes and do A ton yo other mons after rocks are up.Protect is to survivie while mega evolving against faster pokemons like Arceus,Rayquaza etc.Sludge Wave is Gengar's Main STAB, ostly used to deal with fairy types.

Other Options
Shadow Ball>Destiny Bond:You can use shadow ball instead of d bond if you're having trouble dealing with ghost types and mewtwo.
"The Shadows betrays you, cause they serve me."
2)All out physical attackers(Standard Evs spread)

Arceus-Ghost @

Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Force
- Brick Break
- Extreme Speed

Indroduing my Fourth team member, third ghost type and the first physical attacker in this team.The EVS are standard.Starting with its most powerful and deadly attack Shadow Force, it helps me to sweep after a sword dance is under my belt through everything's which is not a Dark or Normal typed.Brick Break is basically for Arceus when they come 1V1 and Extreme speed does the priority work.

"During the day, I dont believe in ghost.At night, well I'm a bit more open minded"

Arceus @

Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Magic Coat

The first of my two Ekillers in this team.ExtremeSpeed is of course the premier attacking option, harnessing 120 BP after STAB at +2 Priority.Earthquake is to hit Primal Groudon, Steel types and Mega gengar super effectively.Magic Coat and Lum berry alllows me to avoid the unwanted status from common threats like Darkrai and Klefki.Sword Dance is just a standard boosting move that phyical arceus use generally.

"A bad wound may heal, but a bad name will kill"

Arceus @

Ability: Multitype
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

My second extreme killer but this one has a life orb for the extra damage.Sword dance and extreme speed are self explainary on this pokemon.Earthquake is a great coverage to damage the kinds of Steelceus and p don.Final move was stone edge to deal with Ho-oh and yveltal a bit more properly.I choose jolly over adamant because most of the times it comes against other Ekillers and loses to them eventually.

Threats

Yveltal:The most annoying threat to this team.The offensive yveltal can be taken care of but the defensive variants are the one you need to look out for.Defensive ghost ceus can weaken it with Will-O-Wisp(Wow) and Kyogre can take it out with its powerful Origin Pulse.Arceus(Life orb) is just a backup incase both are weakened or dead.
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Arceus Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Yveltal: 398-471 (87.4 - 103.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

Darkrai:Another pokemon you need to look out for while battling.If it gets a chance to set up on my Def Ghost ceus, it can easily make a hole in my team.So, i've appointed two ekillers to deal with this and also Sleep talk on kyogre in case of emergency.

Klefki:The swagger lord of this metagame.Can take out my team if it paralyses and confuses my pokemons and foul play spams.I have Lum arceus to care of it and also 3 of my pokemon have 0 IVS for reduced foul play damage.

Xerneas:Yet another pokemon that can be a little bit annoying to handle.Can take out 90% of my team after one geomancy is up, Mega gengar and Ekillers are appointed to deal with it and also kyogre has a very little chance to survive xerneas's standard moves and return a powerful origin pulse.

+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Focus Blast vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Primal Kyogre: 192-226 (47.8 - 56.3%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO

+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Thunder vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Primal Kyogre: 352-416 (87.7 - 103.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Primal Kyogre: 303-357 (75.5 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Replays

Vs Tyler456789
Vs Arceusisjudgingyou
Vs TheHungrySage (A skilled and friendly player)
Vs Rip Ag or Ratkiller (A good battler and friend)
Vs DanteZerazVoorHeez
Vs LinearCurve One Of Ag's Fineast
Vs Sage Hane (Yet, another top tier player)

Thanks guys for readin' my RMT!

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Hi, and great team you have there :)
It seems very weak to klefki, however, which can easily 6-0 your team once your mcoat arc is down (and even before if they have sub). As such, i would suggest a second lum Arceus over life orb, as it is mostly unneeded on your team.

Secondly, I would suggest switching one of your Ghost Arceus out (maybe to ground), as that is just stacking dark weaknesses to be obnoxious.
Finally, even if you keep it remove brick break please. Earthquake or Stone Edge are better (for Klefki or Yveltal), seeing as it already beats normal Arceus, and still loses to Rai.

Also, 28 speed on the defensive ghostceus is better.

 

[Josh]

'ello 'ello

Love a good Kyogre team, and the team looks pretty solid but I think I can definitely help with your threats! This teams biggest weakness is dark types. They absolutely slaughter this team. Bulky Yveltal can literally 6-0 you if gengar drops to a sucker punch, and Darkrai just walks all over you if they get it against your Ghost Arceus. Having a Rest Talker is nice, but the thing is if it is slower than Darkrai it still gets beat easily if it comes in on an already subbed rai.

Now for your Xerneas problem. This may sound weird, but I think thelinearcurve 's Poison Arceus > LO Ekiller. As you said yourself, you just kinda added Ekillers as filler. Poison Arceus fills the same role as an offensive priority user that can potentially sweep, but the difference is Poison Arceus is guaranteed to live anything Xerneas will run, hell even Psyshock doesn't OHKO. It also gives you a reliable Lugia switchin, which is nice. Poison Jab's chance to Poison is actually really nice, unlike other Arceus formes who you need to play around even if you switch a resist into Poison Jab such as Primal Groudon you still run a 30% chance of getting crippled, which is absolutely beautiful. It does survive a +2 EQ from Jolly Ekiller as well, a nice bonus.

set

Deer Hunter (Arceus-Poison) @ Toxic Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Poison Jab
- Earthquake
- ExtremeSpeed

Instead of your offensive Ghost Arceus, why not try... wait for it... Terrakion! This isn't a joke. A Scarfed Terrakion equipped with Sleep Talk is an excellent Darkrai answer, as not only do you get an attack boost from Dark Pulse but you also resist Sludge Bomb which is huge. It also puts in work against most offensive teams in general. I know this is kind of niche, but you're desperately in need of Dark-type checks, and Stone Edge also gets Yveltal which is huge. I'm stealing Zangooser's set but replacing Earthquake with Sleep Talk because you are moderately weak to Fairies so I don't think dropping Iron Head is an option, and being locked into Ground-type moves is horrible due to the large amount of floating Pokemon.

set

Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Iron Head
- Earthquake

Haha, GL with the team man. Hope you like my changes!

 

[Mq]

Hi, and great team you have there :)
It seems very weak to klefki, however, which can easily 6-0 your team once your mcoat arc is down (and even before if they have sub). As such, i would suggest a second lum Arceus over life orb, as it is mostly unneeded on your team.

Secondly, I would suggest switching one of your Ghost Arceus out (maybe to ground), as that is just stacking dark weaknesses to be obnoxious.
Finally, even if you keep it remove brick break please. Earthquake or Stone Edge are better (for Klefki or Yveltal), seeing as it already beats normal Arceus, and still loses to Rai.

Also, 28 speed on the defensive ghostceus is better.

Thanks for the rate.I'll try your suggestion and inform you how they went :).

'ello 'ello

Love a good Kyogre team, and the team looks pretty solid but I think I can definitely help with your threats! This teams biggest weakness is dark types. They absolutely slaughter this team. Bulky Yveltal can literally 6-0 you if gengar drops to a sucker punch, and Darkrai just walks all over you if they get it against your Ghost Arceus. Having a Rest Talker is nice, but the thing is if it is slower than Darkrai it still gets beat easily if it comes in on an already subbed rai.

Now for your Xerneas problem. This may sound weird, but I think thelinearcurve 's Poison Arceus > LO Ekiller. As you said yourself, you just kinda added Ekillers as filler. Poison Arceus fills the same role as an offensive priority user that can potentially sweep, but the difference is Poison Arceus is guaranteed to live anything Xerneas will run, hell even Psyshock doesn't OHKO. It also gives you a reliable Lugia switchin, which is nice. Poison Jab's chance to Poison is actually really nice, unlike other Arceus formes who you need to play around even if you switch a resist into Poison Jab such as Primal Groudon you still run a 30% chance of getting crippled, which is absolutely beautiful. It does survive a +2 EQ from Jolly Ekiller as well, a nice bonus.

Thanking you for the r8!Terrakion looks like a interesting pokemon to use+sleep talk is already such a darkrai counter move :P.For poison ceus, I'm positive it can work.

set

Deer Hunter (Arceus-Poison) @ Toxic Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Poison Jab
- Earthquake
- ExtremeSpeed

Instead of your offensive Ghost Arceus, why not try... wait for it... Terrakion! This isn't a joke. A Scarfed Terrakion equipped with Sleep Talk is an excellent Darkrai answer, as not only do you get an attack boost from Dark Pulse but you also resist Sludge Bomb which is huge. It also puts in work against most offensive teams in general. I know this is kind of niche, but you're desperately in need of Dark-type checks, and Stone Edge also gets Yveltal which is huge. I'm stealing Zangooser's set but replacing Earthquake with Sleep Talk because you are moderately weak to Fairies so I don't think dropping Iron Head is an option, and being locked into Ground-type moves is horrible due to the large amount of floating Pokemon.

set

Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Iron Head
- Earthquake

Haha, GL with the team man. Hope you like my changes!

Thnaks for taking your precious time for the r8!Terrakion seems like an interesting pokemon to use +sleep talk is such a darkrai counter move nowadays.The set you provided looked promising.For poisonceus, i am positive that it should work out as you mentioned above.Again, thx for the r8 you both

-Hailing Away o3o

 

[Execute]

Nice team~

Adding on to what yelawolf said, Arc poison is a amazing xerneas check. It takes 25-28% percent on the switch, and only 50% from a +2 moonblast. This lets you easily revenge kill.

 

[MZ]

hai qwer
This is a p nice team, I think with lum>lo on the ekiller you really can play around most threats p well other than yveltal (smh how do you let it just win multiple times and not do anything about it). However, I do think that there are more effective ways to patch up your weaknesses than Poison Arceus and Terrakion, neither of which really help vs Yveltal and both of which add some nice Ground weaknesses for the already looming Pdon and Groundceus. At the same time, I do agree with the idea that 2 ghost arceus come off as redundant and problematic when you have such a noticeable Yveltal issue already (and 3 ghost types in darkrai meta sucks) and some change is definitely needed. While keeping one would be nice, replacing a Normal Arceus only leaves you down a Lum check to Darkrai and Klefki. So I think you should consider offensive Ghostceus --> Scarf Jirachi. You now have an easily workable GeoXern check for Arcspam, a check to darkrai if a mon goes down without a sub (or even something to break the sub and u-turn into lumcoat arceus) and ez flinches vs defensive no sucker yveltal. But since that's not enough for Yveltal, why not change the defensive Ghostceus --> defensive Fairyceus? The typing isn't going to change the role it fits, but Fairyceus fares better vs Darkrai and Yveltal and is still bulky enough to Roar out Pdon even with a worse matchup thanks to less effective judgement. And Ho-Oh still boned ur ghostceus set just as much basically. You can even go same set, I'm just suggesting swapping the plate. The final thing is, you could definitely consider some extra creep on Pogre for opposing don and the like, more of a personal call how much you want to creep but just 4 over the standard bulky spread should leave you slower than plenty of Don. Anyway, I hope these changes helped you out.

Sets

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 176 HP / 152 Atk / 180 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- U-turn
- Healing Wish
- Ice Punch

Arceus-Fairy @ Pixie Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Judgment
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Recover

 

[Mq]

Nice team~

Adding on to what yelawolf said, Arc poison is a amazing xerneas check. It takes 25-28% percent on the switch, and only 50% from a +2 moonblast. This lets you easily revenge kill.

Thanks!Nice to know you liked it! :D

luv megaqwer

hai qwer
This is a p nice team, I think with lum>lo on the ekiller you really can play around most threats p well other than yveltal (smh how do you let it just win multiple times and not do anything about it). However, I do think that there are more effective ways to patch up your weaknesses than Poison Arceus and Terrakion, neither of which really help vs Yveltal and both of which add some nice Ground weaknesses for the already looming Pdon and Groundceus. At the same time, I do agree with the idea that 2 ghost arceus come off as redundant and problematic when you have such a noticeable Yveltal issue already (and 3 ghost types in darkrai meta sucks) and some change is definitely needed. While keeping one would be nice, replacing a Normal Arceus only leaves you down a Lum check to Darkrai and Klefki. So I think you should consider offensive Ghostceus --> Scarf Jirachi. You now have an easily workable GeoXern check for Arcspam, a check to darkrai if a mon goes down without a sub (or even something to break the sub and u-turn into lumcoat arceus) and ez flinches vs defensive no sucker yveltal. But since that's not enough for Yveltal, why not change the defensive Ghostceus --> defensive Fairyceus? The typing isn't going to change the role it fits, but Fairyceus fares better vs Darkrai and Yveltal and is still bulky enough to Roar out Pdon even with a worse matchup thanks to less effective judgement. And Ho-Oh still boned ur ghostceus set just as much basically. You can even go same set, I'm just suggesting swapping the plate. The final thing is, you could definitely consider some extra creep on Pogre for opposing don and the like, more of a personal call how much you want to creep but just 4 over the standard bulky spread should leave you slower than plenty of Don. Anyway, I hope these changes helped you out.

Sets

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 176 HP / 152 Atk / 180 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- U-turn
- Healing Wish
- Ice Punch

Arceus-Fairy @ Pixie Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Judgment
- Roar
- Stealth Rock
- Will-O-Wisp

Thanks for the rate!Jirachi looks like a nice hax0r , pokemon.For fairy>ghost ceus, i am sure it will make, Vsing yveltal nice so, I'll give it a go too!

Hope for more likes!

 

[Adeleine]

Wow, great team. Not too much to change , especially changes that people haven't already mentioned :P
Firstly I would do LO -> Lum on Ekiller #2. From experience you can almost never have enough ways to deal with Darkrai, and having two Lum SD Ekillers is a great way to improve your matchup there, and being able to EQ Klef after having Lum activate is of course excellent.
As Megazard said I'd do a bit more speed creep on Pogre. Love how he works with this team, and with a bit more creep he can really threaten Pdon with a boosted Ice Beam, especially if Pdon's switching in.
And here's an idea to throw out there, SD Poisonceus over SD Ghostceus. The physical pressure keeping 3 SD Arceus bring is awesome, especially having one that exploits Xern. Poison + Ground coverage leaves very few safe.

Really not many fixes, nice team!

Quantum Tesseract technically nobody recommended poisonceus to replace sd ghostceus :P

 

[QT]

Wow, great team. Not too much to change , especially changes that people haven't already mentioned :P
Firstly I would do LO -> Lum on Ekiller #2. From experience you can almost never have enough ways to deal with Darkrai, and having two Lum SD Ekillers is a great way to improve your matchup there, and being able to EQ Klef after having Lum activate is of course excellent.
As Megazard said I'd do a bit more speed creep on Pogre. Love how he works with this team, and with a bit more creep he can really threaten Pdon with a boosted Ice Beam, especially if Pdon's switching in.
And here's an idea to throw out there, SD Poisonceus over SD Ghostceus. The physical pressure keeping 3 SD Arceus bring is awesome, especially having one that exploits Xern. Poison + Ground coverage leaves very few safe.

Really not many fixes, nice team!

Tfw you reccomend the same things as everyone else.

POgre seems like a solid boon, though. What do you think, 24 or 28 speed EVs?