Quagsire

[Peli]

qc 2/3 pokedots | punchshroom
gp 0/2
[OVERVIEW]
Quagsire has an amazing ability in Unaware, which allows it to check almost all setup sweepers, as well as a great defensive Water / Ground typing that leaves it with only one weakness. Quagsire also gets Recover, giving it reliable recovery to check sweepers throughout the entire game. Because of Quagsire's Water / Ground typing, though, all Grass-type Pokemon in NU, such as Jumpluff, Lilligant, Shiftry, Ludicolo, Torterra, Vileplume, and Cacturne, greatly threaten it, and its only passable physical bulk leaves it unable to withstand some of the more immediately powerful physical attacks in NU, such as Zangoose's boosted Facade and Choice Band Sawk's Close Combat. However, Quagsire walls some notable physical attackers such as Klinklang, Scyther, and even Tauros. Quagsire is very tough to justify on any team archetype other than defensive teams.

[SET]
name: Defensive Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Scald
move 3: Recover
move 4: Toxic / Curse
item: Leftovers
ability: Unaware
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Earthquake is Quagsire's best STAB attack due to its great power and perfect accuracy, dealing good damage against most threats that do not resist it. Scald is a good STAB move that gives Quagsire somewhat of an offensive presence and can cripple physical attackers, thus complementing Quagsire's physical bulk. Recover allows Quagsire to regain 50% of its health and keeps it healthy throughout the battle. Toxic can wear down common switch-ins to Quagsire, mainly Grass-types such as Ludicolo and Jumpluff. Alternatively, Curse allows Quagsire to raise its Attack and Defense, allowing to beat Pokemon it normally has to stall out such as Malamar and Audino. Curse's Defense boost also helps Quagsire against physical attackers like Tauros, Kangaskhan, Hariyama, and Guts-boosted Gurdurr so that it won't have to use Recover nearly as much.

Set Details
========
252 EVs in HP and Defense maximize Quagsire's defensive bulk. A Relaxed nature allows both of Quagsire's STAB moves to be at full power while lowering its irrelevant Speed stat. Unaware allows Quagsire to ignore the opponent's stat changes, allowing it to check almost all setup sweepers. Leftovers provides Quagsire with some passive recovery every turn.

Usage Tips
========
Quagsire should be using Scald and Toxic early on to wear down the opposition. Bring Quagsire in on setup sweepers, as it can check almost all physical setup sweepers lacking a Grass-type coverage move, mainly Klinklang and Samurott but also Archeops and Tauros. Avoid Toxic and other status effects if you have no cleric, as it hinders Quagsire's ability to continually check setup sweepers. Unaware can be a negative as well, ignoring defense drops from Close Combat or Special Attack drops from Overheat. Use Recover to keep Quagsire healthy and able to check Pokemon throughout the game. Use Earthquake to rack up damage along with status or just to get chip damage off. Earthquake can also nail frail Pokemon that don't mind Scald such as Jynx and Floatzel on the switch. Scout for Grass-type coverage moves like Seed Bomb from Garbodor and Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar.

Team Options
========
Pokemon that resist Grass such as Garbodor and Scyther are good teammates. Grass-types of your own can deal with opposing Grass-types well, so Pokemon like Vileplume and Ferroseed that can handle setup sweepers that beat Quagsire like Jumpluff and Shiftry work well. Heal Bell users such as Mega Audino and Sap Sipper Miltank work well to cure status for Quagsire, Miltank especially so because of the combination with Sap Sipper. Pokemon that easily get set up on such as Ferroseed and Mega Audino work well with Quagsire because it can deal with setup sweepers with ease. Grounded Poison-types absorb Toxic Spikes that Quagsire hates.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A offensive set with Choice Band, Leftovers, or Life Orb and Waterfall, Earthquake, Ice Punch, and Stone Edge or Recover rocking Water Absorb or Unaware can be used, but it is mainly for the surprise factor, as Quagsire's poor Speed, mediocre bulk, and average Attack make it a lackluster attacker. Water Absorb can be used to switch into Lanturn freely and then deal massive damage to the switch-in because of how hard Ice-, Ground-, and Water-type coverage is to switch into. Yawn can be used in the Toxic / Curse slot to shift opposing team members around and essentially force a Pokemon to fall asleep from teams lacking a sleep-immune Pokemon or a Lum Berry user. However, Quagsire is already pressed for moveslots, and Yawn doesn't benefit it greatly. Protect is also another choice in the last slot to scout for possible Grass-type coverage moves, such as Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar. Again, though, Quagsire can't really afford to give up moveslots, and it is just better to scout for the Grass-type attack by switching. Encore can help Quagsire check setup sweepers not bothered by Toxic without the need to PP stall or set up itself. Unfortunately, Quagsire is much too slow to benefit from Encore, as the two main targets it hits, RestTalk Malamar and Audino, both outpace it.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Grass-type Moves:** Almost all Grass-types in the tier are special attackers and can hit Quagsire on its weaker defensive stat. Even physical Grass-types like Jumpluff can take advantage of Quagsire's massive weakness and hit it very hard. Weaker non-STAB and non-invested Grass-type attacks like Seed Bomb from Garbodor may not do much to a Curse-boosted Quagsire. All Grass-types bar Roselia and Vileplume don't appreciate taking a Toxic on the switch in, though.

**Physical Wallbreakers:** Strong wallbreakers take advantage of Quagsire's average defensive stats by providing constant offensive pressure. Quagsire's typing doesn't provide key resistances versus the best wallbreakers and is greatly pressured by Sawk, Swellow, Zangoose, and even Choice Band Golurk. Most of the wallbreakers that pressure Quagsire are not threatened by burns, because they either are immune to them or can take advantage of them via either Guts or Facade.

**Special Attackers:** Special attackers such as Jynx, Haunter, Vivillion, Samurott, Aurorus, and Musharna can all take advantage of Quagsire's low Special Defense and hit it with a strong STAB attack.

**Status:** Quagsire does not appreciate status at all. Quagsire can recover off burns for the most part but Toxic cripples Quagsire's ability to perform its role.

 

[Peli]

this is qc ready

 

[astroboy]

am check vroom vroom

qc 0/3
gp 0/2
[OVERVIEW]

• great ability in unaware allows it to check almost all physical setup sweepers mention what unaware specifically does and mention some set up mons it can check (klinklang!!!)
• great defensive typing in ground/water giving Quagsire only one weakness what does its typing do for it other than give it one weakness (ie what does it check)
• defense is good enough to let it to check a good portion of physical attackers, like kangaskhan, scyther, mawile, etc)
• underwhelming spdef is somewhat mitigated by its resistances to common special attacking types such as electric or fire, letting it better handle mons like rotom and magmortar
• recover gives it access to a source of reliable recovery
• all grass type pokemon in NU greatly threaten Quagsire
• mediocre defensive sets both defensive stats leave a lot to be desifed means Quagsire falls to most special and some item-boosted physical attacks such as Sawk's cb cc.

[SET]
name: Defensive Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Scald
move 3: Recover
move 4: Curse / Toxic (curse should be first slash. using crodino and malamar as set-up fodder is such a great boon for defensive teams and is way better than toxic as a whole)
item: Leftovers
ability: Unaware
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

• Earthquake hits Fire, Rock, and Steel types for super effective damage
• Quagsire is one of the many abusers of the 30%=100% phenomenon. Scald is a good STAB move that gives Quagsire somewhat of an offensive presence and cripples physical attackers, thus complementing Quagsire's physical bulk.
• Recover allows Quagsire to regain 50% of its health back, and keeps it healthy throughout the battle
• Toxic can wear down common switchins to Quagsire like grass types and Pokemon that don't mind burns like Floatzel
• Curse allows Quagsire to raise its attack and defense while lowering its speed to beat Pokemon it normally has to stall out such as Malamar and Audino.

Set Details
========

• 252 evs in HP and Def maximise Quagsire's defensive bulk
• Relaxed nature allows for both of Quagsire's stabs to be at full power, dropping the speed stat which is irrevelant
• Unaware nature allows Quagsire to ignore the opponents stat changes on both the offensive and defensive spectrum general rule of analyses: dont use spectrums (ie terms like "as a whole") in writeups. this is kinda nitpicky but lol
• Leftovers provide Quagsire with some passive recovery every turn

Usage Tips
========

• Use Scald and Toxic early on to wear down the opposing team
• Bring Quagsire in on setup-sweepers as it can check almost all physical setup sweepers lacking a grass coverage move
• Especially avoid Toxic if you have no cleric as it hinders Quagsire's ability to continually check setup sweepers
• Use Recover to keep Quagsire healty and able to check Pokemon throughout the game
• Use Earthquake to rack up damage along with status, or just to get chip damage off
• Scout for grass type coverage like Seed Bomb from Garbodor and Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar

Team Options
========

• Fire types that deal with gras types such as Pyroar, Magmortar, and Combusken are good teammates pyroar and combusken fit on completely different archtypes than quag. thats like saying "mega audino goes great with crustle"
• Grass types can deal with opposing Grass types well, so Pokemon like Vileplume and Ferroseed work well
• Heal-Bell users work well to cure status off of Quagsire such as Mega-Audino and Miltank. Miltank especially so beacause of the combo of Sap Sipper Sap Sipper miltank is irrelevant
• Pokemon that easily get set up on such as Ferroseed and Mega-Audino do well with Quagsire because he can deal with setup sweepers with ease. just reword this as "passive mons that appreciate quagsire being there to check set up sweepers that could set up on them" or smth
• Fits best on bulkier teams as a great glue that can check setup sweepers and electric check (this should be the fits bullet point)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

• Yawn can be used in the Toxic / Curse slot to shift opposing team members around and essentially, force a Pokemon to sleep from teams lacking a sleep immunity / lum user
• Protect is also another choice in the last slot scouting for possible grass coverage moves, such as Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar.
• Haze can also be used to come in, reset stats, then switch into another teammate to accordingly deal with the threat. (mention how this synergizes with unaware)
  
• Encore can help check setup sweepers not bothered by Toxic better without the need to pp stall / setup yourself (specifically how)

Checks and Counters
===================

**Grass Types:** Almost all Grass types in the tier are special attackers, (such as?)and can hit Quagsire on his weaker defensive side. (not like what side its getting hit from w a grass type attack matters. really the only relevant physical grass type is shiftrt which beats quag regardless) All Grass types bar Roselia and Vileplume don't appreciate taking a Toxic on the switch in.

**Strong Physical Attackers:** Strong wallbreakers take advantage of Quagsire's average defensive stats by providing constant offensive pressure. Quagsire's typing doesn't provide key resistances versus the best wallbreakers and is greatly pressured by Sawk, Ursaring, Swellow, and Stoutland. (please use some better examples. stoutland and ursaring are hardly relevant enough that they are worth mentioning in c&c) Most of the wallbreakers that pressure Quagsire are not threatened by burns, because they are either immune or are Guts / Facade Pokemon.

**Special Attackers:** Special attackers such as Jynx and Haunter can take advantage of Quagsire's low special defense and hit it with strong STAB attacks such as Psychic and Shadow Ball.

**Status:** Quagsire does not appreciate taking status well at all. It can recover off burns for the most part but Toxic cripples Quagsire's ability to constantly come in, wall and Recover.(this is worded really awkwardly, rephrasing this would be great)

 

[boltsandbombers]

Dont slash curse first, its literally just for Mega Audino and Malamar while hitting Grass-types not named plume or rose is almost always better.
To anyone else who amchecks stuff please don't tell people what should be slashed, I'm fine with adding input like that but slashing is up to QC.

 

[Peli]

added what boltsandbombers spoke about on PS!

 

[Pokedots]

qc 0/3
gp 0/2
[OVERVIEW]

• great ability in unaware allows it to check almost all physical setup sweepers
• great defensive typing in ground/water giving Quagsire only one weakness
• recover gives it access to a source of reliable recovery
• all grass type pokemon in NU greatly threaten Quagsire
• medicore defensive sets it's physical defense is quite solid, I'd rephrase this means Quagsire falls to most special and some item-boosted physical attacks such as Sawk's cb cc.

probably add a line about how passive it is, and that this and lacking Stealth Rock unlike fellow Water- and Ground-types like Rhydon, Torterra, and Carracosta makes it hard to justify outside of defensive teams

[SET]
name: Defensive Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Scald
move 3: Recover
move 4: Toxic / Curse
item: Leftovers
ability: Unaware
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

• Earthquake hits Fire, Rock, and Steel types for super effective damage
• Quagsire is one of the many abusers of the 30%=100% phenomenon. Scald is a good STAB move that gives Quagsire somewhat of an offensive presence and cripples physical attackers, thus complementing Quagsire's physical bulk.
• Recover allows Quagsire to regain 50% of its health back, and keeps it healthy throughout the battle
• Toxic can wear down common switchins to Quagsire like grass types and Pokemon that don't mind burns like Floatzel
• Curse allows Quagsire to raise its attack and defense while lowering its speed to beat Pokemon it normally has to stall out such as Malamar and Audino.

Set Details
========

• 252 evs in HP and Def maximise Quagsire's defensive bulk
• Relaxed nature allows for both of Quagsire's stabs to be at full power, dropping the speed stat which is irrevelant
• Unaware nature allows Quagsire to ignore the opponents stat changes on both the offensive and defensive spectrum this is unnecessary
• Leftovers provide Quagsire with some passive recovery every turn

Usage Tips
========

• Use Scald and Toxic early on to wear down the opposing team
• Bring Quagsire in on setup-sweepers as it can check almost all physical setup sweepers lacking a grass coverage move give examples, main ones being Klinklang and Samurott; it also checks some other 'mons such as Archeops and Tauros
• Especially avoid Toxic if you have no cleric as it hinders Quagsire's ability to continually check setup sweepers
• Use Recover to keep Quagsire healty and able to check Pokemon throughout the game
• Use Earthquake to rack up damage along with status, or just to get chip damage off
• Scout for grass type coverage like Seed Bomb from Garbodor and Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar

Team Options
========

• Fire types that deal with gras types such as Pyroar, Magmortar, and Combusken are good teammates I don't really like this point since offensive 'mons like those and Quag should very rarely be on the same team; instead I'd mention Garbodor or Scyther
• Grass types can deal with opposing Grass types well, so Pokemon like Vileplume and Ferroseed work well
• Heal-Bell users work well to cure status off of Quagsire such as Mega-Audino and Miltank. Miltank especially so beacause of the combo of Sap Sipper
• Pokemon that easily get set up on such as Ferroseed and Mega-Audino do well with Quagsire because he can deal with setup sweepers with ease.
• Fits best on bulkier teams as it really saps any offensive momentum.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

• A offensive set with choice band or leftovers, Waterfall,Earthquake,Ice Punch, and Stone Edge or Recover rocking Water Absorb can be used I'd still mention unaware here since it can still check Klinklang and Samu
• Yawn can be used in the Toxic / Curse slot to shift opposing team members around and essentially, force a Pokemon to sleep from teams lacking a sleep immunity / lum user
• Protect is also another choice in the last slot scouting for possible grass coverage moves, such as Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar.
• Haze can also be used to come in, reset stats, then switch into another teammate to accordingly deal with the threat. This sounds bad
  
• Encore can help check setup sweepers not bothered by Toxic better without the need to pp stall / setup yourself

Checks and Counters
===================

**Grass Types:** Almost all Grass types in the tier are special attackers, and can hit Quagsire on his weaker defensive side. All Grass types bar Roselia and Vileplume don't appreciate taking a Toxic on the switch in.

**Wallbreakers:** Strong wallbreakers take advantage of Quagsire's average defensive stats by providing constant offensive pressure. Quagsire's typing doesn't provide key resistances versus the best wallbreakers and is greatly pressured by Sawk, Ursaring, Swellow, and Stoutland. Most of the wallbreakers that pressure Quagsire are not threatened by burns, because they are either immune or are Guts / Facade Pokemon.

**Special Attackers:** Special attackers such as Jynx and Haunter can take advantage of Quagsire's low special defense and hit it with strong STAB attacks such as Psychic and Shadow Ball.

**Status:** Quagsire does not appreciate taking status well at all. It can recover off burns for the most part but Toxic cripples Quagsire's ability to constantly come in, wall and Recover.

do this and qc 1/3 n_n

 

[Peli]

implemented Pokedots , thanks for the check

 

[Punchshroom]

[OVERVIEW]decent defense with frail SpD means Quagsire falls to most special and some item-boosted physical attacks such as Sawk's cb cc.

Just say that Quagsire's only passable physical bulk leaves it unable to withstand some of the more immediately powerful physical attacks in NU, such as Zangoose or Choice Band Sawk. Oh, and you can also list some notable attackers that Quagsire does wall.

[SET]
name: Defensive Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Scald
move 3: Recover
move 4: Toxic / Curse
item: Leftovers
ability: Unaware
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

Why does this have Speed? Should be Special Defense if anything else.

Moves
========

• Earthquake hits Fire, Rock, and Steel types for super effective damage
• Quagsire is one of the many abusers of the 30%=100% phenomenon (remove; fluff). Scald is a good STAB move that gives Quagsire somewhat of an offensive presence and cripples physical attackers, thus complementing Quagsire's physical bulk.
• Recover allows Quagsire to regain 50% of its health back, and keeps it healthy throughout the battle
• Toxic can wear down common switchins to Quagsire like grass types and Pokemon that don't mind burns like Floatzel
• Curse allows Quagsire to raise its attack and defense while lowering its speed to beat Pokemon it normally has to stall out such as Malamar and Audino.

- EQ is Quagsire's main damaging attack, emphasize that; in fact remove the Fire, Rock, and Steel-type bit because that's not what ur using EQ for (Scald already hits them).
- Toxic's main target would be Grass-types; most Pokemon that don't mind burns (Floatzel, Jynx, Lanturn) are nailed hard by EQ
- You don't have to bring up Curse's Speed drop, though if you must you can say that it is negligible. Mention that Curse's Defense boost gives Quagsire more breathing room against physical attackers like Tauros, Kangaskhan, Hariyama, and Guts boosted Gurdurr, so that it won't have to Recover nearly as much.

Usage Tips
========

• Use Scald and Toxic early on to wear down the opposing team
• Bring Quagsire in on setup-sweepers as it can check almost all physical setup sweepers lacking a grass coverage move, mainly Klinklang and Samurott; but also has the ability to check Archeops and Tauros.
• Especially avoid Toxic if you have no cleric as it hinders Quagsire's ability to continually check setup sweepers
• Use Recover to keep Quagsire healty and able to check Pokemon throughout the game
• Use Earthquake to rack up damage along with status, or just to get chip damage off
• Scout for grass type coverage like Seed Bomb from Garbodor and Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar

- Earthquake also nails physically frail Pokemon on the switch that do not mind Scald, such as Floatzel and Jynx.

Other Options
=============

• A offensive set with choice band or leftovers, Waterfall,Earthquake,Ice Punch, and Stone Edge or Recover rocking Water Absorb or Unaware can be used
• Yawn can be used in the Toxic / Curse slot to shift opposing team members around and essentially, force a Pokemon to sleep from teams lacking a sleep immunity / lum user
• Protect is also another choice in the last slot scouting for possible grass coverage moves, such as Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar.
• Encore can help check setup sweepers not bothered by Toxic better without the need to pp stall / setup yourself

So I see these options that can be used, but also remind people on why they usually aren't used:
- Offensive Quag used purely for surprise factor, as poor Speed, mediocre bulk, and average Attack make it a lackluster immediate attacker.
- Yawn doesn't really improve any of Quagsire's matchups.
- It's better to scout the potential coverage move by switching, keeping the moveslot free for Quag.
- Too slow to be effective, particularly against the RestTalk boosters in Malamar and MAudino.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Grass Types:** Almost all Grass types in the tier are special attackers, and can hit Quagsire on his weaker defensive side. All Grass types bar Roselia and Vileplume don't appreciate taking a Toxic on the switch in.

**Wallbreakers:** Strong wallbreakers take advantage of Quagsire's average defensive stats by providing constant offensive pressure. Quagsire's typing doesn't provide key resistances versus the best wallbreakers and is greatly pressured by Sawk, Ursaring, Swellow, and Stoutland. Most of the wallbreakers that pressure Quagsire are not threatened by burns, because they are either immune or are Guts / Facade Pokemon.

**Special Attackers:** Special attackers such as Jynx and Haunter can take advantage of Quagsire's low special defense and hit it with strong STAB attacks such as Psychic and Shadow Ball.

- You could perhaps list some of these Grass-types, and you can even throw in some physical ones such as Jumpluff. Perhaps you can even rename this section to Grass-type moves and list some users, though note that some of the weaker Grass moves (uninvested Seed Bomb from Garbodor) may not do much to a Curse-boosted Quagsire.
- Ursaring and Stoutland are not very relevant; replace with Zangoose or something like Choice Band Golurk. Also if you'd might want to name it "Physical Wallbreakers" and not just "Wallbreakers", as that would imply listing the special ones as well.
- Surely you can bring up some more: stuff like Samurott, Aurorus, Vivillon and some others are fine examples, and you can list their respective STABs, like Ice Beam from Jynx and Hydro Pump from Samurott and whatnot. The way you're phrasing this atm, people would think they can just slap on a Dark-type teammate for Quagsire and sufficiently cover its weaknesses.

QC 2/3

 

[Peli]

added, thanks for the check Punchshroom will write up in a bit

 

[Kiyo]

qc 2/3 pokedots | punchshroom
gp 0/2
[OVERVIEW]
Quagsire has an amazing ability in Unaware, which allows it to check almost all setup sweepers. Quagsire also has a great defensive typing in Water/Ground giving Quagsire only one weakness. Quagsire also gets Recover, giving it reliable recovery. Because of the water/ground typing all Grass-type Pokemon in NU greatly threaten Quagsire give examples. Quagsire's only passable physical bulk leaves it unable to withstand some of the more immediately powerful physical attacks in NU, such as Zangoose or Choice Band Sawk this is more a gp thing but you're referring to attacks and then stating pokemon not moves. Quagsire walls some notable physical attackers in Klingklang, Scyther, and even Tauros. Quagsire is a very passive Pokemon, and lacks Stealth Rock unlike Water- and Ground-types like Rhydon, Torterra, and Carracosta makes it hard to justify on any archetype outside of defensive teams i'd like to see a little more explanation as to why this is, do we not have viable non-ground or -water type pokemon that carry stealth rock? do they share similar weaknesses to quagsire making it unviable? are the pokemon that run the move to similar in nature to quagsire to run on teh same team? i'm not sure if i disagree with this statement but i'd like some reasoning in the overview if you stick with it.

[SET]
name: Defensive Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Scald
move 3: Recover
move 4: Toxic / Curse
item: Leftovers
ability: Unaware
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Earthquake is Quagsire's best STAB attack due to its great power and perfect accuracy, dealing good damage against most opposing threats that do not resist ground. Scald is a good STAB move that gives Quagsire somewhat of an offensive presence and cripples physical attackers, thus complementing Quagsire's physical bulk. Recover allows Quagsire to regain 50% of its health back, and keeps it healthy throughout the battle. Toxic can wear down common switchins to Quagsire, mainly grass types. Curse allows Quagsire to raise its attack and defense allowing to beat Pokemon it normally has to stall out such as Malamar and Audino. Curse's defense boost also helps Quagsire against physical attackers like Tauros, Kangaskhan, Hariyama, and Guts boosted Gurdurr, so that it won't have to Recover nearly as much.

Set Details
========
252 evs in HP and Defense maximise Quagsire's defensive bulk. Relaxed nature allows for both of Quagsire's stabs to be at full power, dropping the speed stat which is irrevelant. Unaware nature allows Quagsire to ignore the opponents stat changes allowing it to check almost all setup sweepers. Leftovers provide Quagsire with some passive recovery every turn.

Usage Tips
========
Quagsire should be using Scald and Toxic early on to wear down the opposition. Bring Quagsire in on setup-sweepers as it can check almost all physical setup sweepers lacking a grass coverage move, mainly Klinklang and Samurott; but also has the ability to check Archeops and Tauros. Especially avoid Toxic if you have no cleric as it hinders Quagsire's ability to continually check setup sweepers. Use Recover to keep Quagsire healty and able to check Pokemon throughout the game. Use Earthquake to rack up damage along with status, or just to get chip damage off. Earthquake can also nail frail pokemon that don't mind scald such as Jynx and Floatzel on the switch. Scout for grass type coverage like Seed Bomb from Garbodor and Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar. i'd like a mention somewhere that unaware can be a bad thing in certain situations, i.e. not doing good damage to mons with close combat, not ignoring overheat and leaf storm drops, etc.

Team Options
========
Pokemon with types that have a resistance to Grass such as Garbodor or Scyther are good teammatesGrass types can deal with opposing Grass types well, so Pokemon like Vileplume and Ferroseed work well i'd actually liek to see a specific mention for shiftry and jumpluff as one fo their main niches is being a set up sweeper that beats quagsire. Heal-Bell users work well to cure status off of Quagsire such as Mega-Audino and Miltank. Miltank especially so beacause of the combo of Sap Sipper. Pokemon that easily get set up on such as Ferroseed and Mega-Audino do well with Quagsire because he can deal with setup sweepers with ease. Fits best on bulkier teams as it really saps any offensive momentum. mention grounded poisons to absorb t-spike,

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A offensive set with choice band or leftovers or life orb, Waterfall,Earthquake,Ice Punch, and Stone Edge or Recover rocking Water Absorb or Unaware can be used, it is mainly for the suprise factor, as poor Speed, mediocre bulk, and average Attack make it a lackluster immediate attacker. also used to switch into lanturn and bop switch ins, i'd like you to mention how tough water ice ground coverage is to switch into, maybe because im personally biased about offensive quag tho :/Yawn can be used in the Toxic / Curse slot to shift opposing team members around and essentially, force a Pokemon to sleep from teams lacking a sleep immunity / lum user. Quagsire is already pressed for move-slots, and Yawn doesn't benefit its own matchups greatly. Protect is also another choice in the last slot scouting for possible grass coverage moves, such as Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar. Again, Quagsire can't really afford to give up move-slots and it is just better to scout for the grass type attack. Encore can help check setup sweepers not bothered by Toxic better without the need to pp stall / setup yourself. unfortunately, Quagsire is much to slow to benefit from Encore, as the two main things it hits, rest-talk Malamar and Audino, both outpace Quagsire.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Grass Type Moves:** Almost all Grass types in the tier are special attackers, and can hit Quagsire on his weaker defensive side. Even physical Grass types like Jumpluff can take advantage of Quagsire's massive weakness and hit it very hard. Although weaker non-stab and non-invested Grass attacks like Seed Bomb from Garbodor may not do much to a Curse boosted Quagsire. All Grass types bar Roselia and Vileplume don't appreciate taking a Toxic on the switch in.

**Physical Wallbreakers:** Strong wallbreakers take advantage of Quagsire's average defensive stats by providing constant offensive pressure. Quagsire's typing doesn't provide key resistances versus the best wallbreakers and is greatly pressured by Sawk, Swellow, Zangoose, and even CB Golurk. Most of the wallbreakers that pressure Quagsire are not threatened by burns, because they are either immune or are Guts / Facade Pokemon.

**Special Attackers:** Special attackers such as Jynx, Haunter, Vivillion, Samurott, Aurorus, and Musharna can all take advantage of Quagsire's low special defense and hit it with a strong STAB attacks of their choice.

**Status:** Quagsire does not appreciate taking status well at all. It can recover off burns for the most part but Toxic cripples Quagsire's ability to constantly come in, wall and Recover.

comments in bold.

p straight forward mon, theres a few things i think you can catch on your own before gp takes a look at this though so be sure to look this thread: http://users.smogon.com/forums/threads/spelling-and-grammar-standards.3490681/ over and make some edits to your analysis before submitting it to the queue: http://users.smogon.com/forums/threads/grammar-prose-team-queue-here-we-go-again.3489979/

3/3

 

[Peli]

sending to gp

 

[horyzhnz]

check

[OVERVIEW]
Quagsire has an amazing ability in Unaware, which allows it to check almost all setup sweepers. Quagsire also has a great defensive Water / Ground typing in Water/Ground giving which leaves Quagsire with only one weakness. Quagsire also gets Recover, giving it reliable recovery. <- try to elaborate on this sentence because it sounds kinda redundant rn, although it's a pretty important point. Because of the water/ground Quagsire's Water / Ground typing all Grass-type Pokemon in NU, such as Jumpluff, Lilligant, Shiftry, Ludicolo, Torterra, Vileplume, and Cacturne,(AC) greatly threaten Quagsire. Quagsire's only passable physical bulk leaves it unable to withstand some of the more immediately powerful physical attacks in NU, such as Zangoose's boosted Facades or and Choice Band Sawk's Close Combat. However, Quagsire still walls some notable physical attackers in such as Klingklang, Scyther, and even Tauros. Hard to justify on any team archetype than defensive teams reword this into a proper sentence

[SET]
name: Defensive Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Scald
move 3: Recover
move 4: Toxic / Curse
item: Leftovers
ability: Unaware
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Earthquake is Quagsire's best STAB attack due to its great power and perfect accuracy, dealing good damage against most opposing threats that do not resist ground it. Scald is a good STAB move that gives Quagsire somewhat of an offensive presence and cripples physical attackers, thus complementing Quagsire's physical bulk. Recover allows Quagsire to regain 50% of its health back, and keeps it healthy throughout the battle. Toxic can wear down common switch-ins to Quagsire, mainly Grass-types such as Ludicolo and Jumpluff. Curse allows Quagsire to raise its Attack and Defense allowing to beat Pokemon it normally has to stall out such as Malamar and Audino. Curse's Defense boost also helps Quagsire against physical attackers like Tauros, Kangaskhan, Hariyama, and Guts boosted Gurdurr, so that it won't have to use Recover nearly as much.

Set Details
========
252 EVs in HP and Defense maximize Quagsire's defensive bulk. A Relaxed nature allows for both of Quagsire's stabs STAB moves to be at full power, dropping while lowering the Speed stat which is irrevelant. Unaware nature allows Quagsire to ignore the opponent's stat changes allowing it to check almost all setup sweepers. Leftovers provides Quagsire with some passive recovery every turn.

Usage Tips
========
Quagsire should be using Scald and Toxic early on to wear down the opposition. Bring Quagsire in on setup sweepers as it can check almost all physical setup sweepers lacking a Grass-type coverage move, mainly Klinklang and Samurott; but also has the ability to check Archeops and Tauros. Especially Avoid Toxic and other status effects if you have no cleric as it hinders Quagsire's ability to continually check setup sweepers. Unaware can be a negative also, ignoring defense drops from Close Combat or Special Attack drops from Overheat. Use Recover to keep Quagsire healthy and able to check Pokemon throughout the game. Use Earthquake to rack up damage along with status, or just to get chip damage off. Earthquake can also nail frail Pokemon that don't mind Scald such as Jynx and Floatzel on the switch. Scout for Grass-type coverage moves like Seed Bomb from Garbodor and Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar.

Team Options
========
Pokemon with types that have a resistance to resist Grass such as Garbodor or Scyther are good teammates. Grass-types of your own can deal with opposing Grass-types well, so Pokemon like Vileplume and Ferroseed that can handle setup sweepers that beat Quagsire like Jumpluff and Shiftry work well. Heal Bell users such as Mega Audino and Sap Sipper Miltank work well to cure status off of for Quagsire such as Mega Audino and Miltank. Miltank especially so beacause of the combo of Sap Sipper. Pokemon that easily get set up on such as Ferroseed and Mega Audino work do well with Quagsire because he it can deal with setup sweepers with ease. Grounded Poison-types absorb Toxic Spikes that Quagsire hates. Fits best on bulkier teams as it really saps any offensive momentum.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A offensive set with Choice Band or Leftovers or Life Orb, Waterfall, Earthquake, Ice Punch, and Stone Edge or Recover rocking Water Absorb or Unaware can be used, but it is mainly for the surprise factor, as poor Speed, mediocre bulk, and average Attack make it a lackluster immediate attacker. Water Absorb can be used to switch into Lanturn freely, then deal massive damage to the switch-in because of how hard Ice-, Ground-, and Water-type coverage is to switch into. Yawn can be used in the Toxic / Curse slot to shift opposing team members around and essentially,(RC) force a Pokemon to fall asleep from teams lacking a sleep immunity / lum user. However, Quagsire is already pressed for moveslots, and Yawn doesn't benefit its own matchups greatly reword, i'm not sure what this means. Protect is also another choice in the last slot to scout for possible Grass-type coverage moves, such as Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar. Again, Quagsire can't really afford to give up moveslots and it is just better to scout for the Grass-type attack by switching. Encore can help Quagsire check setup sweepers not bothered by Toxic better without the need to PP stall / set up itself. Unfortunately, Quagsire is much too slow to benefit from Encore, as the two main things targets it hits, RestTalk Malamar and Audino, both outpace Quagsire.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Grass-type Moves**: Almost all Grass-types in the tier are special attackers,(RC) and can hit Quagsire on his its weaker defensive side. Even physical Grass-types like Jumpluff can take advantage of Quagsire's massive weakness and hit it very hard. Although Weaker non-STAB and non-invested Grass-type attacks like Seed Bomb from Garbodor may not do much to a Curse-boosted Quagsire. All Grass-types bar Roselia and Vileplume don't appreciate taking a Toxic on the switch in.

**Physical Wallbreakers**: Strong wallbreakers take advantage of Quagsire's average defensive stats by providing constant offensive pressure. Quagsire's typing doesn't provide key resistances versus the best wallbreakers and is greatly pressured by Sawk, Swellow, Zangoose, and even Choice Band Golurk. Most of the wallbreakers that pressure Quagsire are not threatened by burns, because they are either immune or are have access to Guts / Facade Pokemon.

**Special Attackers**: Special attackers such as Jynx, Haunter, Vivillion, Samurott, Aurorus, and Musharna can all take advantage of Quagsire's low Special Defense and hit it with a strong STAB attacks of their choice.

**Status**: Quagsire does not appreciate taking status well at all. It Quagsire can recover off burns for the most part but Toxic cripples Quagsire's ability to constantly come in, wall and Recover perform its role.

cmon man, most of the errors here wouldn't have happened if you listened to Kiyo and took a peek at the Spelling and Grammar Standards. it's going to be pretty valuable if you're planning on writing more analysis articles in the future. either way, there's some sentences which don't really make sense, so i'd prefer it if you rewrote them before asking for the second check

gp 1/2

 

[boltsandbombers]

Peli do the above asap, it should not take you 4 days to implement a gp check

 

[Peli]

done bolts

 

[Lumari]

k

remove add (Capitalize / Fix) (comments); (AC=add comma; RC=remove comma; SC=semicolon)
GP 2/2

quagsire

[OVERVIEW]
Quagsire has an amazing ability in Unaware, which allows it to check almost all setup sweepers, (AC) Quagsire also has as well as a great defensive Water(space)/(space)Ground which typing that leaves Quagsire it with only one weakness. Quagsire also gets Recover, giving it reliable recovery to check sweepers throughout the entire game. Because of Quagsire's Water / Ground typing, (AC) though, (AC) all Grass-type Pokemon in NU, such as Jumpluff, Lilligant, Shiftry, Ludicolo, Torterra, Vileplume, and Cacturne, greatly threaten Quagsire it, (comma) Quagsire's and its only passable physical bulk leaves it unable to withstand some of the more immediately powerful physical attacks in NU, such as Zangoose's boosted Facade and Choice Band Sawk's Close Combat. However, Quagsire walls some notable physical attackers such as Klingklang Klinklang, Scyther, and even Tauros. Quagsire is very tough to justify on any team archetype other than defensive teams.

[SET]
name: Defensive Wall
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Scald
move 3: Recover
move 4: Toxic / Curse
item: Leftovers
ability: Unaware
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Earthquake is Quagsire's best STAB attack due to its great power and perfect accuracy, dealing good damage against most opposing threats that do not resist it. Scald is a good STAB move that gives Quagsire somewhat of an offensive presence and cripples can cripple physical attackers, thus complementing Quagsire's physical bulk. Recover allows Quagsire to regain 50% of its health back (RC) and keeps it healthy throughout the battle. Toxic can wear down common switch-ins to Quagsire, mainly grass types Grass-types such as Ludicolo and Jumpluff. Alternatively, (AC) Curse allows Quagsire to raise its Attack and Defense, (AC) allowing to beat Pokemon it normally has to stall out such as Malamar and Audino. Curse's Defense boost also helps Quagsire against physical attackers like Tauros, Kangaskhan, Hariyama, and Guts-boosted (add hyphen) Gurdurr (RC) so that it won't have to use Recover nearly as much.

Set Details
========
252 EVs in HP and Defense maximize Quagsire's defensive bulk. A Relaxed nature allows for both of Quagsire's STAB moves to be at full power (RC) while lowering the its irrelevant Speed stat which is irrevelant. Unaware allows Quagsire to ignore the opponent's stat changes, (AC) allowing it to check almost all setup sweepers. Leftovers provides Quagsire with some passive recovery every turn.

Usage Tips
========
Quagsire should be using Scald and Toxic early on to wear down the opposition. Bring Quagsire in on setup sweepers, (AC) as it can check almost all physical setup sweepers lacking a Grass-type coverage move, mainly Klinklang and Samurott but also Archeops and Tauros. Avoid Toxic and other status effects if you have no cleric, (AC) as it hinders Quagsire's ability to continually check setup sweepers. Unaware can be a negative as well, ignoring defense drops from Close Combat or Special Attack drops from Overheat. Use Recover to keep Quagsire(space)healthy and able to check Pokemon throughout the game. Use Earthquake to rack up damage along with status (RC) or just to get chip damage off. Earthquake can also nail frail Pokemon that don't mind Scald such as Jynx and Floatzel on the switch. Scout for Grass-type coverage moves like Seed Bomb from Garbodor and Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar.

Team Options
========
Pokemon that resist Grass such as Garbodor or and Scyther are good teammates. Grass-types of your own can deal with opposing Grass-types well, so Pokemon like Vileplume and Ferroseed that can handle setup sweepers that beat Quagsire like Jumpluff and Shiftry work well. Heal Bell (remove hyphen) users such as Mega Audino and Sap Sipper Miltank (space) work well to cure status for Quagsire, (comma) Miltank especially so beacause because of the combo of combination with Sap Sipper. Pokemon that easily get set up on such as Ferroseed and Mega Audino work well with Quagsire because it can deal with setup sweepers with ease. Grounded Poison-types absorb Toxic Spikes that Quagsire hates.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
A offensive set with Choice Band, (AC) or Leftovers, (AC) or Life Orb (RC) and Waterfall, Earthquake, Ice Punch, and Stone Edge or Recover rocking Water Absorb or Unaware can be used, but it is mainly for the surprise factor, as Quagsire's poor Speed, mediocre bulk, and average Attack make it a lackluster attacker. Water Absorb can be used to switch into Lanturn freely (RC) and then deal massive damage to the switch-in because of how hard Ice-,(space)Ground-,(space)and Water-type coverage is to switch into. Yawn can be used in the Toxic / Curse slot to shift opposing team members around and essentially force a Pokemon to fall asleep from teams lacking a sleep immunity / lum sleep-immune Pokemon or a Lum Berry user. However, Quagsire is already pressed for moveslots, and Yawn doesn't benefit it greatly. Protect is also another choice in the last slot to scout for possible Grass-type coverage moves, such as Hidden Power Grass from Magmortar. Again, though, Quagsire can't really afford to give up moveslots, (AC) and it is just better to scout for the Grass-type attack by switching. Encore can help Quagsire check setup sweepers not bothered by Toxic without the need to PP stall or set up itself. Unfortunately, Quagsire is much too slow to benefit from Encore, as the two main targets it hits, RestTalk Malamar and Audino, both outpace Quagsire it.

Checks and Counters (move colons to after asterisks)
===================

**Grass-type Moves**: Almost all Grass-types in the tier are special attackers and can hit Quagsire on its weaker defensive side stat. Even physical Grass-types like Jumpluff can take advantage of Quagsire's massive weakness and hit it very hard. Weaker non-STAB and non-invested Grass-type attacks like Seed Bomb from Garbodor may not do much to a Curse-boosted Quagsire. All Grass-types bar Roselia and Vileplume don't appreciate taking a Toxic on the switch in, though.

**Physical Wallbreakers**: Strong wallbreakers take advantage of Quagsire's average defensive stats by providing constant offensive pressure. Quagsire's typing doesn't provide key resistances versus the best wallbreakers and is greatly pressured by Sawk, Swellow, Zangoose, and even Choice Band Golurk. Most of the wallbreakers that pressure Quagsire are not threatened by burns, because they either are either immune to them or can take advantage of them via Guts or Facade.

**Special Attackers**: Special attackers such as Jynx, Haunter, Vivillion, Samurott, Aurorus, and Musharna can all take advantage of Quagsire's low Special Defense and hit it with a strong STAB attack.

**Status**: Quagsire does not appreciate status at all. Quagsire While it can recover off burns for the most part, (AC) but Toxic cripples Quagsire's ability to perform its role.

 

[Peli]

done

 

[Raseri]

did a few minor changes like adding sceptile mention to overview and uploaded this