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Discussion in 'Smogon Metagames' started by Antar, Jun 7, 2017.
mega gyarados is ass :(
Seriously, thanks to Antar for processing the stats and to the rest of you for laddering.
Also, why is DNU right below DUU with no DRU in between?
Why mamoswine,I love to use it in OU
You can still use it in OU. It was moved to UU, not banned.
Haha, just kidding about that Doubles tier update... I was comparing Gen 7 tier lists with Gen 6...
It should be right now, though.
This happens to me all the time as well because for some reason gen 6 tiers are the only ones that don't have the gen numer in their name, maybe you can rename them so they have more consistency with the rest? Like it goes gen1ou, gen2ou, gen3ou, gen4ou, gen5ou, ou, gen7ou. I don't know how much effort that would be but if it's only a little effort it might be useful.
Why is Pheromosa still in the OU list (#99)? And the fact that Smeargle has moved from NU to OU is surprising.
It's the three-month tiering change, so any data from March (before Pheromosa was banned) still counts on this. The same goes for Mega-Metagross.
As for Smeargle's rise, it's on the back of the popularity of njnp webs that it rose (also responsible for the rise in Bisharp)
Welp,R.I.P half of my RU teams
also,why does araquinid has more usage than reuniclus and goodra
This. This right here. The next closest is 19.4% and that's being a bit generous.
Interesting how nobody up till page 3 pointed out Landorus-Therian's usage. So many gens later and it's still OU's finest, most present Pokemon.
That's because everyone's used to having it at the top all the time.
I've said it before, I'll say it now, and I will continue saying it: Landorus-T is a Pokemon that will be at least average in absolutely standard every format it is legal in and top tier in any without cover legends. Not only does its design leave it with very few flaws, all of which can be built or played around, but it is also perhaps the best check to itself, which bumps its usage up even further.
It's pretty bad in Anything Goes and Hackmons.
let's redefine my post as "standard format, with standard clauses or cartridge rules, that is officially supported by Smogon or TPCI"
neither Anything Goes nor any OM fit under that umbrella
The DUU ladder itself already ded. Playing DUU mean u are waiting like 3~5 min for a game. Imagine if DRU and DNU become a thing, u may take 15 min for a game (This def not answer ur question) :v
E: I meant, there are very few dubs player. We never have enough ppl to make new tier. If DRU comes out, shit ppl may ask for DNU and so on.
So you literally mean just OU, DOU, Ubers, and BSS.
and VGC 2013, and VGC 2015, and VGC 2016, and every single GBU or Battle Spot format it's been permitted in that didn't change game mechanics (Inverse, basically; I don't recall it being good there, but it did hit Grass super effective so idk)
well it's absolute hot garbage so hopefully you can find a use for it in uu...
| 44 | Heracross-Mega | 4.515% |
Heracross should be OU.
Megas and regular formes are treated seperately. If it weren't that way, Audino, a Pokemon found in PU or something would be in the same tier as Mega Audino (Which I wanna say is OU rn, but idk).
You're right. What a massive brainfart.
Stats for the month are now up, but we won't be doing quick-changes using them. Why? Because the stats only cover up to the 23rd (PS stopped saving logs on the 23rd and only resumed on July 3), and tiers didn't update until like the 8th. Thus, the stats are much more heavily influenced by pre-tier-shift usages. Don't worry, we'll do another set of quick-changes in August.
So in other words, no tier changes this month?
What does this mean for PU exactly?