Ubers Wobbuffet

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QC: Nayrz / Fireburn / Level 56
GP: CryoGyro

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[OVERVIEW]
* Wobbuffet's unique combination of Shadow Tag + Encore, Counter, and Mirror Coat allows it to beat most offensive threats in the metagame.
* It has fantastic synergy with most setup sweepers in the tier.
* Its sky-high HP stat allows it to tank any hit in the game from full HP.
* Its poor defensive typing makes it unable to come in on powerful Ghost- and Dark-type moves.
* Due to its passive nature, Wobbuffet is often outclassed by the other Shadow Tag trappers in the tier since it's unable to accomplish much against more defensive teams.
* With Custap Berry being unreleased in Pokemon Sun and Moon, Wobbuffet lost its game-winning ability to fire off a priority Destiny Bond or Safeguard, which seriously hampers its effectiveness.

[SET]
name: Wobbuffet
move 1: Encore
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Safeguard / Destiny Bond
item: Leftovers
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Calm
evs: 204 HP / 32 Def / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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* Encore ensures that Wobbuffet isn't complete setup bait. It can lock the opposing Pokemon into a boosting move so that Wobbuffet may switch out to regain momentum. It also prevents opponents from outplaying Counter and Mirror Coat with mixed attackers.
* Counter and Mirror Coat are Wobbuffet's only form of damage output, but they work extremely well in combination with Wobbuffet's high HP stat, which causes most successful uses of these moves to be an OHKO.
* Safeguard allows Wobbuffet to shield its teammates from status. This move is especially useful for setting up Dragon Dance users since it grants them immunity to Prankster Thunder Wave and Toxic.
* Destiny Bond is another option for the fourth slot, allowing Wobbuffet to threaten to KO the attacker after their next move. It's not as useful as it once was, but it's noteworthy for being the only way to touch Darkrai and specially offensive Yveltal.

Set Details
========

* Leftovers gives Wobbuffet slightly more longevity and allows it to do its job better if it needs to switch into entry hazards.
* The HP and Special Defense investment allows Wobbuffet to take a +2 Moonblast from Xerneas without Stealth Rock up. If Stealth Rock is up, Wobbuffet can come in at full HP on Xerneas's Geomancy turn and always live the +2 Moonblast after Leftovers recovery. The rest is put towards physical bulk.
* A nature and no attack IVs minimize Foul Play and confusion damage.

Usage Tips
========

* Wobbuffet thrives on hyper offense teams that aim to weaken or remove checks to a powerful setup sweeper.
* While it's tempting to send Wobbuffet in on any attack that could otherwise put you in an awkward position, remember that Wobbuffet should be used to trap the biggest threat to your wincon. If you carelessly send in Wobbuffet, you can lose your chance to do anything meaningful with it due to its lack of recovery.
* Some examples of utilizing a Wobbuffet to its fullest potential include removing a Xerneas in order to crush the opposing team with Yveltal or using Encore on a Primal Groudon to lock it into Precipice Blades and set up a Dragon Dance with Mega Salamence.
* Wobbuffet should avoid status moves such as Toxic by any means possible. In matchups against bulkier teams, however, it may be worth it to Encore the enemy into such moves, then set up a Safeguard so that you can freely set up or attack without worrying about being afflicted with the status condition.

Team Options
========

* Wobbuffet should nearly always be paired with offensive Pokemon. Threatening setup sweepers such as Xerneas, Mega Salamence, and Arceus pair well with Wobbuffet, as they appreciate its ability to lock enemy Pokemon into moves or remove their checks.
* Xerneas is an especially popular Pokemon to use in combination with Wobbuffet, as its Fairy typing allows it to come in on Yveltal, which completely walls Wobbuffet.
* A sturdy Dark-type like Yveltal can help punish Ghost-type attackers that try to take advantage of Wobbuffet's typing.
* Healing Wish users such as Shaymin-S allow Wobbuffet to make use of its bulk twice in a match.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

* Sitrus and Aguav Berry can restore 25% or 50% health, respectively, if Wobbuffet's HP drops low enough, but this healing can be inconsistent (especially Aguav Berry's).
* Wobbuffet can hold a Kasib Berry to ensure that it can take a +2 Shadow Force from Extreme Killer Arceus and fire off a very unexpected Counter in response.
* Alternatively, Wobbuffet can hold a Colbur Berry to ensure that it doesn't lose a large amount of HP from Deoxys-A's Knock Off as well as Choice Band Yveltal's Knock Off. However, given that most Dark-type attackers use special attacks and are immune to Mirror Coat, this is worthless a lot of the time.
* If your team is more scared of physical powerhouses like Mega Salamence, a physically defensive spread may be used if you already have a solid check to Geomancy Xerneas.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Passive Pokemon**: Wobbuffet cannot do much in these matchups besides hope for a good use of Encore, since they are packed with ways of dealing indirect damage to Wobbuffet. Mega Sableye is especially annoying, being immune to Counter, Mirror Coat, Encore, and Shadow Tag.

**Dark-type Pokemon**: Due to Wobbuffet's typing, Dark-types can smack it very hard with powerful STAB moves. In addition, a lot of specially offensive Dark-types such as Yveltal, Arceus-Dark, and Darkrai are unaffected by Mirror Coat and can attack Wobbuffet without fear.

**Ghost-type Pokemon**: Ghost-types cannot be trapped by Shadow Tag and have a powerful typing that is immune to Counter, giving Wobbuffet a horrible matchup against physical attackers of the type like Arceus and Giratina-O. Any Mega Gengar set with Taunt or Substitute can also be problematic.

**Pokemon with Taunt**: While Taunt only has 32 PP to Counter and Mirror Coat's combined 64 PP, users of the move with Pressure like Mewtwo can stall said moves out, while setup Pokemon with Taunt can use Wobbuffet's helplessness to boost up.

**Status-inducing Moves**: Toxic users such as Klefki, Groudon, and Lugia as well as Will-O-Wisp users like Arceus can simply spam their status move against Wobbuffet until it goes down. However, Safeguard allows Wobbuffet to lock these Pokemon into their status moves and switch out to something else, giving the Wobbuffet user a free turn.
 
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Hi, how are you all doing?

While writing this, it was hard to come up for a suitable item for Wobbuffet. The loss of Custap Berry in gen 7 really hampered its viability. I decided to go with Leftovers in combination with a spread that gave Wobbuffet another significant benchmark against Geomancy Xerneas. I've outlined other items, such as Kasib and Colbur berries in OO. Something else I thought of was Mental Herb, which allows Wobbuffet to lock something into taunt, but there's a dearth of viable taunters that Wobbuffet actually wants to encore, Deo-S being the most popular. I'm not sure which item fits best of Wobbuffet right now, so I'll defer to the QC team and let them choose what they think is best.

Thanks for reading.
 
This has sat around for a while, so thats our bad. This skeleton is pretty well done I'd say. The memes should be removed though, it saves you the GP lecture.

QC 1/3
 
Hi again.

Thanks for the QC. I implemented those changes (and generally cleaned it up for the GP team) a week ago, but just didn't post.

Can we finish this one up, pl0x? It has been sitting here for quite a while and Wobb is a pretty one-dimensional Pokémon.

Thanks for reading.
 
What about those berries that heal 50% when you are at 25% or less?
Or sitrus Berry which heals 25% when you are at 50% or less.
Leftovers would take 4 turns to equal a Sitrus berry... with stealth rocks, and heavy hitters, it might be good to use a healing berry since wobbafett still takes a lot of damage from Uber attacks, enough to trigger the berry at the HP range, but Wobbafett can hopefully use the heal to get in a second mirror coat or counter
 
I would probably take the utility of being able to check GeoXern with rocks up over recovery that only activates if you go below a certain health point (it's more consistent and you can plan a solid game plan around it), but I'll defer to the QC team on that.

E: I added those into OO.
 
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I would probably take the utility of being able to check GeoXern with rocks up over recovery that only activates if you go below a certain health point (it's more consistent and you can plan a solid game plan around it), but I'll defer to the QC team on that.

E: I added those into OO.
I just figured since you would have included Custap Berry, which you mentioned would have been included if it was available in gen 7, which activates at 25%, then you should consider the other berries.

Glad to see you added them to Other Options.

Also would Rocky Helmet be an option? Couldn't it help secure some 1HKOs on contact moves that it would use Counter on? Or at the very least score some damage on pivot moves such as U-Turn, or Fake-Out?
 
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[OVERVIEW]
* Wobbuffet is one of the "Holy Trinity" of Shadow Tag abusers (I fail to see how this is useful info)
* Its Wobbuffet's unique combination of Shadow Tag + Encore/Counter/Mirror Coat Encore, Counter, and Mirror Coat allows Wobbuffet it to assassinate or Encore beat most offensive threats in the metagame. (period)
* It has fantastic synergy with most setup sweepers in the tier. (period)
* Its sky-(hyphen)high HP stat allows it to tank any unboosted hit in the game from full HP. (period)
* Its poor defensive typing makes it unable to come in on powerful Ghost-(hyphen) and Dark-type moves.
* Due to its passive nature, Wobbuffet is often outclassed by the other Shadow Tag trappers in the tier since it's unable to accomplish much against more passive defensive teams. (period)
* With Custap Berry being unreleased in Pokemon Sun and Moon, Wobbuffet lost the game winning its game-winning ability to fire off a priority Destiny Bond or Safeguard, which seriously hampers its effectiveness.

[SET]
name: Wobbuffet
move 1: Encore
move 2: Counter
move 3: Mirror Coat
move 4: Safeguard(space)/(space)Destiny Bond
item: Leftovers
ability: Shadow Tag
nature: Calm
EVs evs: 204 HP / 32 Def / 252 SpD
IVs ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

* Encore ensures that Wobbuffet isn't complete setup bait. It can lock the opposing Pokemon into a boosting move so that the user Wobbuffet may switch out to regain momentum. It also prevents opponents from outplaying Counter and Mirror Coat with mixed attackers.
* Counter and Mirror Coat counter and reflect attacks, respectively. These are Wobbuffet's only forms of damage output, but they work extremely well in combination with Wobbuffet's high HP stat, leading which causes most successful uses of these moves to be an OHKO.
* Safeguard allows Wobbuffet to set up a protective screen to shield its teammates from status. This move is especially useful for setting up Dragon Dancers users since it grants them immunity to Prankster Thunder Wave and Toxic.
* Destiny Bond is another option for the fourth slot, allowing Wobbuffet to threaten to KO the attacker after their next move. Custap Berry being unreleased combined with the Destiny Bond nerf make the move way less useful than it was in the previous generation It's not as useful as it once was, but it's noteworthy for being the only way to touch Darkrai and Specially based specially offfensive Yveltal.

Set Details
========

* Leftovers gives Wobbuffet slightly more longevity and allows it to do its job better if it needs to step on switch into entry hazards.
* The EV spread HP and Special Defense investment allows Wobbuffet to live take a +2 Moonblast from Xerneas without Stealth Rock up. If Stealth Rock is up, Wobbuffet can come in at full HP on Xerneas's Geomancy turn and always live take the +2 Moonblast from 94% after Leftovers recovery. Wobbuffet can then Mirror Coat it into submission. If the Xerneas elects to Geomancy, Wobbuffet can simply use Encore and switch out. (this belongs in Usage Tips, if you think this info is important to keep) The rest is put into Physical towards physical bulk.
* The A Calm nature and 0 Atk IV spread no Attack IVs minimize Foul Play and confusion damage.

Usage Tips
========

* Wobbuffet thrives on Hyper Offensive hyper offense teams that aim to weaken or remove checks to a powerful Setup Sweeper setup sweeper and then win the game to win with it.
* While it's tempting to send Wobbuffet in on any attack that makes the game awkward for you could otherwise put you in an awkward position, remember that Wobbuffet should be used to trap the most important biggest threat to your win condition on the enemy team wincon. If you carelessly send in Wobbuffet, you can lose your chance to do anything meaningful with it due to its lack of recovery.
* Some examples of utilizing a Wobbuffet to its fullest potential include removing a Xerneas in order to crush the opposing team with Yveltal or using Encore on a Primal Groudon to lock it into Precipice Blades and set up a Dragon Dance with Mega Salamence.
* You Wobbuffet should avoid status-inducing moves such as Toxic with Wobbuffet by any means possible. In matchups against bulkier teams, however, it may be worth it to Encore the enemy into Toxic such moves, (comma) then set while setting up a Safeguard so that you teammates can freely set up or attack without worrying about your powerful sweepers being afflicted with the status condition.

Team Options
========

* Wobbuffet should nearly always be paired with offensive Pokemon ninety-nine times out of one-hundred. Threatening setup sweepers such as Xerneas, Mega Salamence, and Arceus pair well with Wobbuffet, as they appreciate its ability to lock enemy Pokemon into Encore moves or remove their checks.
* Xerneas is an especially popular Pokemon to use in combination with Wobbuffet, (comma) as its Fairy typing allows it to come in on Yveltal, which completely walls Wobbuffet.
* A sturdy Dark-type like Yveltal can help punish Ghost-type attackers that try to abuse take advantage of (don't ever use abuse, it's not a correct application of the word) Wobbuffet's typing.
* Healing Wish users such as Shaymin-Sky allow Wobbuffet to abuse make use of its bulk twice in a match.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

* Sitrus Berry and Aguav Berries Berry can restore 25% or 50% health, (comma) respectively, (comma) if Wobbuffet's HP drops low enough, but this healing can be inconsistent (especially Aguav Berry's).
* Wobbuffet can hold a Kasib Berry to ensure that it can take a +2 Shadow Force from Extreme Killer Arceus and fire off a very unexpected Counter in response.
* Alternatively, Wobbuffet can hold a Colbur Berry to ensure that it doesn't lose a large amount of HP from Deoxys-A's Knock Off as well as Banded Choice Band Yveltal's Knock Off. However, given that most Dark-type attackers are Special use special attacks and thus are immune to Mirror Coat, this is worthless a lot of the time.
* If your team is more scared of physical powerhouses like Mega Salamence, a Physically Defensive physically defensive (set names are only capitalized in titles) spread may be used if you already have a solid check to Geomancy Xerneas.

Checks and Counters
===================
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**Passive Pokemon**: Wobbuffet cannot do much in these matchups besides hope for a decent encore in to give its opponents more leverage good use of Encore, since these they are packed with ways of dealing indirect damage to Wobbuffet. Mega Sableye is especially annoying, resisting both Counter and Mirror Coat as well as being immune to Counter, Mirror Coat, Encore, (comma) and Shadow Tag.
**Dark-type Pokemon**: Due to Wobbuffet's typing, Dark-types can smack the Wobbuffet it very hard with powerful STAB moves. In addition to this, a lot of specially offensive Dark-types such as Yveltal, Arceus-Dark, and Darkrai are unaffected by Mirror Coat and can attack Wobbuffet without fear of dying.
**Ghost-type Pokemon**: Cannot be trapped by Shadow Tag. They also Ghost-types cannot be trapped by Shadow Tag and have a powerful STAB typing that is immune to counter Counter, giving Wobbuffet a horrible matchup against physically based ghosts physical attackers of the type like Arceus and Giratina-O. Any Taunting or Substituting (don't use moves as verbs) Mega Gengar set with Taunt or Substitute can also be problematic.
**Pokemon with Taunt**: While Taunt only has 32 PP to Counter and Mirror Coat's combined 64 PP, users of the move with Pressure taunters like Mewtwo can stall said moves out, (comma) both of Wobbuffet's damaging moves thanks to their ability while setup Pokemon with Taunt can abuse Wobbuffet's helplessness to boost up.
**Status-inducing Moves**: Toxic users such as Klefki, Groudon, and Lugia as well as Will-O-Wisp users like Arceus can simply spam their status move against Wobbuffet until it dies goes down. However, Safeguard allows Wobbuffet to lock these Pokemon into their status moves and switch out into something else, giving the Wobbuffet user a free turn.
 
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