Diplomacy Blind Date Diplomacy - GAME OVER (7-way draw)

Duskfall98 said:
Ftr sunny I don’t know if this is apparent but I don’t really have any intention to fight you, I don’t see how it helps me at all and just would help others more, and eventually allow bigger threats to grow and eat me to the east.

My plan has been and remains to spread east if at all possible, so you can probably assume that I’m not going to be gunning for you since I do agree we just bounce as other people snowball.
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Duskfall98 said:
I have continuously stated that I’m looking to find an ally who will give me centres and commit to that with realistic plans, I am aware that many people are trying to sell me a dream and I don’t really want to buy into it as of now.
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One other possible point is that your general submitted a support order "helping" Turkey as a signal to both you and Turkey. I'll leave it up to you which of A-R-T you want to join up with, but Italy early-game is a bit annoying b/c Tun is your only guaranteed center. But joining up with one of the Eastern powers is your best shot at long-term success, I agree!
 
I think my general was actually saying support into turkey, rather than support from turkey because I essentially declared war on turkey turn 0.

So far as I’ve read, turkey and Italy are the most incompatible two nations in the game for an alliance?
 
sunny004 said:
Ya know that could be right. Maybe do what I did ask your general to signal based on a distinction you made?
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Well I think my general had already signaled intent to go east, so I will be going east I’ve kind of made my mind up I’m going towards the balkans because I think that’s my only best option aside from if I were to fight Germany or Austria which seems bad to me.

But general if you have ideas you can signal to me, as it stands I feel like we kind of have to look east and I’m happy to commit to that (when I say east I again mean balkans)
 
Duskfall98 said:
Yeah but I mean what about in the balkans, right now you’re just continuing to ask me to play for your wincon rather than pursue my own, where will you allow me to advance in a way I can actually grow?
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I said that because if you don't go west Germany probably is not that interested in allying with us.

If you don't want to go west that's fine, we can go east and expand there :blobthumbsup:


sunny004 said:
Duskfall98 I will promise you that I will just lock down Pie and prevent you from moving forward. That will lead to either a) a stalemate or b) DBD taking my centers, and at that point he will be too strong for you. DBD is essentially asking you to kill all of your momentum by keeping me occupied instead of working together with Alice in the east.

Alice Kazumi this is going to seem rather counterintuitive, but it may actually make more sense for Tommy and you to coordinate a bounce in Tri this turn. In order for you two to defeat an R-T jugg, it makes more sense for you two to work together by convoying Italy's A Apu into Turkey next turn. Again, it makes zero sense from Tommy+your perspectives (if your goal is to defeat the jugg) to send Tommy's stuff in exactly the opposite direction. I think the best path for mutual coordination would be for you to to essentially play as a 4-unit power against R-T until you gain the needed momentum to take them out.
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The bouncing part is fine but convoying part might be trickier. That should help Italy if done succesfully so I'm open to try it.
 
Alice Kazumi said:
I said that because if you don't go west Germany probably is not that interested in allying with us.

If you don't want to go west that's fine, we can go east and expand there :blobthumbsup:



The bouncing part is fine but convoying part might be trickier. That should help Italy if done succesfully so I'm open to try it.
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Going west is not a real option for me sadly as there’s very little I can actually do :(

Let’s go east yes!
 
I am interested in allying with Italy even if they don't go west. The main reason I want Italy to go west is to stop the situation that happened in the first Flandrs-hosted Diplo game, wherein Italy remained neutral but eventually got steamrolled by Austria and then the English-French coalition. I honestly think that's what Sunny is aiming for in this game, so a Germany-Italy alliance is vital in stopping that threat at least in the European continent.
 
Dead by Daylight said:
I am interested in allying with Italy even if they don't go west. The main reason I want Italy to go west is to stop the situation that happened in the first Flandrs-hosted Diplo game, wherein Italy remained neutral but eventually got steamrolled by Austria and then the English-French coalition. I honestly think that's what Sunny is aiming for in this game, so a Germany-Italy alliance is vital in stopping that threat at least in the European continent.
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Italy's demise was more Austria + Turkey's doing than mine. If you recall I actually supported AG by keeping him alive+helping him bottleneck Ven against Austria. We were able to steamroll b/c the entire east was a clusterfuck and an A/T alliance is just naturally not great. I-A has much better odds of success

What I am "aiming for" is staying alive lol; whether that is by teaming up with you/hydro/tommy/some combination I will leave up to my general. But actively trying to get all of my neighbors to attack me does force me to negotiate accordingly
 
Dead by Daylight said:
I am interested in allying with Italy even if they don't go west. The main reason I want Italy to go west is to stop the situation that happened in the first Flandrs-hosted Diplo game, wherein Italy remained neutral but eventually got steamrolled by Austria and then the English-French coalition. I honestly think that's what Sunny is aiming for in this game, so a Germany-Italy alliance is vital in stopping that threat at least in the European continent.
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I am happy to ally you, but the thing is you’re essentially asking me to be neutral because Poe move basically just makes me bounce forever I have no real forward progress. In many ways we agree in that I can’t stay neutral - so that’s why I’m pushing for a fifth supply centre early so that I have skin in the game by mid game.

My plan for going east would be access the balkans through the Ionian Sea and potentially fight turkey with Austria/russia.
 
Fall 1901 Moves
Spicy stuff in the west, with a side of random supports in the east!
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Austria
A Vie-Tri (successful)
A Ser S Alb-Gre (successful)
F Alb-Gre (successful)

England
A Yor-Hol (bounced)
F NTH C Yor-Hol (successful)
F NWG-Nwy (successful)

France
A Pic-Bel (successful)
A Spa-LYO (invalid)
F MAO-Por (successful)

Germany
A Ber-Pru (successful)
A Ruh-Hol (bounced)
F Den H (successful)

Italy
A Apu-Tun (successful)
A Ven S Gre-AEG (invalid, represented as A Ven S Alb-AEG on the map)
F ION C Apu-Tun (successful)

Russia
A Ukr-Rum (successful)
A War-Gal (successful)
F BOT-Swe (successful)
F Sev S Ukr-Rum (successful)

Turkey
A Bul-Gre (bounced)
A Con-Bul (bounced)
F Ank-BLA (successful)
And here's the new state of the map:
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SUPPLY CENTER CHANGES:
France has taken control of Belgium, Portugal, and Spain (+3 builds)
Austria has taken control of Serbia and Greece (+2 builds)
Russia has taken control of Rumania and Sweden (+2 builds)
England has taken control of Norway (+1 build)
Germany has taken control of Denmark (+1 build)
Italy has taken control of Tunis (+1 build)
Turkey has taken control of Bulgaria (+1 build)

It is now Winter 1901. Generals should submit build orders to me by Saturday, November 9th, at 9PM PST (GMT-7).

GM's Notes:
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hm. sunny004 it appears my general wishes to attack the eastern front, truce for now until we solve the Russian threat?
 
Note: There was some tomfoolery with the Italian orders. Please check the edited post.

I never clarified pre-game if Generals could submit orders that are impossible to implement on Backstabbr's interface. I intended for this to not be possible, but it's not fair to enforce a rule that was never explicitly outlined and barely implied, so it will be allowed.
 
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