i really should stop applying chatroom principles to forums but to elaborate further: in chatroom i've observed that in the case of a wagon that is basically "consensus" by most of the pl, some scum members like to hop on. which was what was on my mindi imght be being dumb but the logic isnt tracking for me,, there literally were no dissenters against the des vote the closest thing was me/af going "ehhhh remember the double announcer in that one game tho" which p much got glossed over bc no one was against a des vote, so mafia was already "blending in" per se. thus the vote rly doesnt. tell anything imo?
just putting it out there