NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

I mean I've been scumreading your slot since day 1, and DBD has cast plenty of shade to me. I'd be surprised if you didn't.
Didn’t you say day 1 is rand? So nothing has happened since to change your mind and now you are convinced I am the best vote today? That doesn’t really make sense to me
my independent opinion of charlie is null. ive tried to read him several and have vocalized my frustations at unable to read them as anytihng but null.

i have no clue what your second line is about like you thought dbd was scummy before you subbed in?

this. like obviosuly the mehcniaclally right option is voting vote negator and its not like charlie has been exceptionally townie but maf!vote negator doesnt claim in any world right?? like they know when town reaches the pre-mylo/lylo point they just die right.
yea I thought Dbd was scummy reading the game back is there something confusing about that

If we think Charlie is town I’m willing to risk it and lose the game on a Misvkte here.

Curious why I’m the only one who’s even thought about this
 
Didn’t you say day 1 is rand? So nothing has happened since to change your mind and now you are convinced I am the best vote today? That doesn’t really make sense to me
That is the least charitable possible way to compress and present my reasoning. Day 1 DBD was mostly absent or joking around, and since then made at least 1 nonsensical push on me, and the role he and you claimed doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
 
I'm still debating claiming myself by the way, curious what others (particularly sunny004 and Vizh 's) thoughts on this are since I think we're the only ones who haven't claimed yet. I'm like halfway convinced to but there's still a lot of time and it's something that can't be undone, and I'd rather not make that decision on a whim based on just JALMONT's opinion. A lot of other people have been claiming but not exactly expressing that it's something everyone should do (though given Hyhy's claim I can infer what his answer would be lol)
 
Like for example HyHy's role ever claiming just never makes sense to me. It is impossible to test mechanically and it just ensures mafia will never go for that slot (either because he's lying or because he can't die) so what have we really gained from doing this?
 
I'm still debating claiming myself by the way, curious what others (particularly sunny004 and Vizh 's) thoughts on this are since I think we're the only ones who haven't claimed yet. I'm like halfway convinced to but there's still a lot of time and it's something that can't be undone, and I'd rather not make that decision on a whim based on just JALMONT's opinion. A lot of other people have been claiming but not exactly expressing that it's something everyone should do (though given Hyhy's claim I can infer what his answer would be lol)
I’m just expressing my opinion i am earnestly trying to solve and think I’ve put a pretty reasonable suggestion as to why it’s better to mass claim now then later

If no mass claim, how do you suggest we proceed? When you vote me and I flip town, what are you going to do next? CK?
 
Mass claiming or not claiming at all are not the only choices we have here. People can soft claim things, or simply say they don't have a good reason to claim (like I think Hyhy should've if he's town). Like if we theoretically had an alliance cop that had info on 1 scum 1 town, no reason not to claim at this point.

And yeah I think you and CK can't both be town probably, but I'd want to see his mega evolution status first for sure. I would also be open for voting skipper/Neon but admittedly partially that's because Neon subbed in to play mafia and then went "yeah I ain't reading all that".
 
Mass claiming or not claiming at all are not the only choices we have here. People can soft claim things, or simply say they don't have a good reason to claim (like I think Hyhy should've if he's town). Like if we theoretically had an alliance cop that had info on 1 scum 1 town, no reason not to claim at this point.

And yeah I think you and CK can't both be town probably, but I'd want to see his mega evolution status first for sure. I would also be open for voting skipper/Neon but admittedly partially that's because Neon subbed in to play mafia and then went "yeah I ain't reading all that".
Ok what about Charlie then?
 
Did you read the current page number before you decided to sub in?
Nah.
Plus I may or may not be mildly delusional and think I can sheet this somehow just because at least being like 500 posts behind on a Smogon NOC game isn't as bad as being even like 100 posts behind on a sheet for an MU game (the sheets for which I typically have to abandon at some point for that exact reason, because posts come in at about the same rate that I can sheet them at, but I have to like sleep and shit, but the thread doesn't.)
 
things I would like to see when I wake up:

1. people deciding against or for mass claim INCLUDING ACTION TARGETS
-> a. if people against mass claim, I would like to see user targets. For example: I know who CK targeted on day 1, I would like to get confirmation on who that is (and likewise prove myself!). I am also particular interested in skip/neon. we can do this without claiming
2. hear from Charlie and NE on what we should do today and generally explain why we should not vote them
3. let's try and avoid putting 3 or more votes on someone. really max should be 2 but I doubt 4 people are going to pile on a misvote

whatever happens, please do not quick hammer me for another 18 hours. thanks. gn
 
I mean does anyone realistically think AF was killed because they were closing to solving the game. if someone can help me out with that it would be great

that suggests AG or someone knew AF was likely 3p. but if AG knew, why not push for a vote and get mad town credit? why paint AF as 3p and risk a 3p kill coming out of nowhere and getting a deep wolf?
Because AG was getting towncred for simply softclearing a fairy, so s!AG would rather kill a fairy than vote them
 
Like for example HyHy's role ever claiming just never makes sense to me. It is impossible to test mechanically and it just ensures mafia will never go for that slot (either because he's lying or because he can't die) so what have we really gained from doing this?
Not suggesting this as a course of action but given the distinction between deathproof and bpv I imagine that we could just try and vote out Hydro and then if they don’t get voted out it’s confirmed
 
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