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Week 1 predicts

(1.5) :necrozma-ultra: vs :eternatus-eternamax: (4.5)

ORAS1: Glory vs Sheep Liver (60/40)
Sheep isn't bad but Glory is better imo
ORAS2: realExcaliju vs LycanrocWastaken (30/70)
Idk Excaliju and Lycanroc is good
USUM1: byulharang vs TheCreatorOfBullsht (10/90)
Do I need to explain?
USUM2: Akira 153 vs hendrit (40/60)
I've never seen Akira play PH, but you never know
DPP: Highlord vs blahpy (50/50)
Idk
SwSh: maypockets vs lag=bad (49/51)
Gen 8 is very luckbased but lag is the better player

2.5 :slaking: vs :audino-mega: (3.5)

ORAS1: Iguana vs Cazenovia (50/50)
Idk
ORAS2: berry vs Maxouille (60/40)
Berry is better imo
USUM1: splodge vs cscl (40/60)
I'm probably cooked but my teammates have been helping so I have a chance
USUM2: rightclicker vs Yourself (45/55)
Yourself is like the most underrated player in the tour, imo it's still a pretty close mu though
DPP: NToTheN vs GhastlyPixie (80/20)
What Test Rex said
SwSh: Floure vs Ransei (49/51)
Gen 8 is very luckbased but Ransei is the better player
 
Meh, Ur overestimating me, Excaliju is good. I love his Double Mdiancie team made by aerobee
splodge said:
Week 1 predicts

(1.5) :necrozma-ultra: vs :eternatus-eternamax: (4.5)

ORAS1: Glory vs Sheep Liver (60/40)
Sheep isn't bad but Glory is better imo
ORAS2: realExcaliju vs LycanrocWastaken (30/70)
Idk Excaliju and Lycanroc is good
USUM1: byulharang vs TheCreatorOfBullsht (10/90)
Do I need to explain?
USUM2: Akira 153 vs hendrit (40/60)
I've never seen Akira play PH, but you never know
DPP: Highlord vs blahpy (50/50)
Idk
SwSh: maypockets vs lag=bad (49/51)
Gen 8 is very luckbased but lag is the better player

2.5 :slaking: vs :audino-mega: (3.5)

ORAS1: Iguana vs Cazenovia (50/50)
Idk
ORAS2: berry vs Maxouille (60/40)
Berry is better imo
USUM1: splodge vs cscl (40/60)
I'm probably cooked but my teammates have been helping so I have a chance
USUM2: rightclicker vs Yourself (45/55)
Yourself is like the most underrated player in the tour, imo it's still a pretty close mu though
DPP: NToTheN vs GhastlyPixie (80/20)
What Test Rex said
SwSh: Floure vs Ransei (49/51)
Gen 8 is very luckbased but Ransei is the better player
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splodge said:
Week 1 predicts

(1.5) :necrozma-ultra: vs :eternatus-eternamax: (4.5)

ORAS1: Glory vs Sheep Liver (60/40)
Sheep isn't bad but Glory is better imo
ORAS2: realExcaliju vs LycanrocWastaken (30/70)
Idk Excaliju and Lycanroc is good
USUM1: byulharang vs TheCreatorOfBullsht (10/90)
Do I need to explain?
USUM2: Akira 153 vs hendrit (40/60)
I've never seen Akira play PH, but you never know
DPP: Highlord vs blahpy (50/50)
Idk
SwSh: maypockets vs lag=bad (49/51)
Gen 8 is very luckbased but lag is the better player

2.5 :slaking: vs :audino-mega: (3.5)

ORAS1: Iguana vs Cazenovia (50/50)
Idk
ORAS2: berry vs Maxouille (60/40)
Berry is better imo
USUM1: splodge vs cscl (40/60)
I'm probably cooked but my teammates have been helping so I have a chance
USUM2: rightclicker vs Yourself (45/55)
Yourself is like the most underrated player in the tour, imo it's still a pretty close mu though
DPP: NToTheN vs GhastlyPixie (80/20)
What Test Rex said
SwSh: Floure vs Ransei (49/51)
Gen 8 is very luckbased but Ransei is the better player
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why are predicts here in commencement and not in the actual thread :blobglare:
 
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My predictions
(3) :slaking: vs :audino-mega: (4)

ORAS1: Iguana vs Cazenovia (51/49)
Small edge.

ORAS 2: Berry vs Maxouille (Result out) Its a Maxouille victory.

USUM1: splodge vs cscl (30/70)
Bit overkill MU, but splodge could cook
USUM2: rightclicker vs Yourself (50/50) closeee
DPP: NToTheN vs GhastlyPixie (86/14)
Sigh
SwSh: Floure vs Ransei (20/80)
I'm a Ransei fan, can't hide it.


Although Cscl really is a very good player, I personally think they spent a bit too much on him.
 
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Y'all seriously overestimate how hard it is to learn PH LMAO
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W1 predicts

:slaking: Sussy Slakings (3.5) [2.89-3.33] vs. [2.67-3.11] (2.5) Mega-Hacked Audinos :audino-mega:
gen6ph: Iguana [53-57] vs. [43-47] Cazenovia
Relatively close matchup, but Iguana seems to have adjusted relatively well to the ORAS metagame in HPL and is overall a (very) slightly better pilot imo. Caz, for their part, is overall the more solid builder but Iguana also has NToTheN/Ballfire/sussy as building support which should balance out that aspect. The highlight game out of these 6 for sure.

gen6ph: berry [54-61] vs. [39-46] Maxouille
More unsure about this matchup. berry is an overall better pilot and has significantly more experience in PH, and while I'm personally not convinced by their building in a vacuum, again, modified N teams should be solid enough when only Ransei can really serve as building support for Maxouille. The latter isn't a bad pilot at all, though, and has CAP player aura so not very one sided. Should be an interesting set.

gen7ph: splodge [25-35] vs. [65-75] cscl
Unlike what most people appear to be doing (predicting 70-30 then acting as though this is a 95-5 matchup or something ridiculous), I think splodge genuinely has a 1 in 3 or 4 chance of taking this – they're about as creative a builder as cscl and not a bad pilot at all. I'd just advise them to frequently test teams and weed out the generally more gimmicky/ineffective ideas to complement their creativity in the builder.

gen7ph: rightclicker [47-57] vs. [43-53] Yourself
From watching replays rightclicker seems like the slightly stronger pilot, though the latter'll probably just get passed teams by Ransei/cscl and will have more unpredictable teams as a result. N's generally a pretty good builder, for rc's part, but their teams occasionally lose to random bs (though if rightclicker/N are careful when prepping this should be a non-issue). Essentially a 50-50 but I'm more familiar with rightclicker outside of PH so giving them a couple pts.

gen4ph: NToTheN [70-78] vs. [22-30] GhastlyPixie
If anything I think GhastlyPixie will bring better teams (not completely sure though, given N/Iguana/berry are all experienced in DPP) but N is significantly more familiar with DPP and PH mechanics in general so hard to see this going the other way.

Wildcard (gen8ph): Fluore [40-45] vs. [55-60] Ransei
Comparable pilots but Ransei's generally more familiar with SS' major interactions and will likely bring overall more solid teams.
 
alright bingo update
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someone goes for >18k: cscl went for 20k iirc, thats like 30% of the draft money
gen 6/7 superstar forced to play wildcard: ransei wanted to play swsh over the 3ds games i guess
double void miss: screw that we got the legendary triple void miss week 1
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen6purehackmons-818892 (rip)
sample team wins:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen6purehackmons-2295831203-s0v5gil1xm2rl5f6t6cbc3msnkfxmkxpw?p2 modified sample but whatever
under 15 turn game:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4anythinggoes-818751 ntothen is the greatest player of all time
kinda happened:
wildcard gen cut: lgpe got replaced by swsh (should have replaced gen 9 smh)
>30% of the draft are furries/trans: dont care enough to check this one but its the ph community, its prob true
someone misspells username during draft: misspelled upbid, ransei paid 3.4k for podra and we stole him lmao
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super swag mayo predicts (week :lugia:)

:necrozma-ultra: Nascent Necrozmas (2.5) vs. (3.5) Mega-Hacked Audinos :audino-mega:
gen6ph: Glory vs. Cazenovia (50.0 | 50.0)
the funni tie
gen6ph: realExcaliju vs. Maxouille (50.0 | 50.0)
the funni tie 2: air balloon wg mega manectric boogaloo
gen7ph: RichardMillePlain vs. cscl (0.1 | 99.9)
overkill mu
gen7ph: Akira 153 vs. Yourself (50.0 | 50.0)
the funni tie 3: mmx strikes back
gen4ph: Highlord vs. GhastlyPixie (80.0 | 20.0)
this is why you should've picked me smh
sv: mayopockets vs. Ransei (30.0 | 70.0)
bro why does the other mayo get back-to-back roomstaff mus in wild card :changry:

:slaking: Sussy Slakings (3) vs. (3) Monday John Maximus :eternatus-eternamax:
oras1: berry vs. Sheep Liver (50.1 | 49.9)
use ballfire's orass expertise more to win
oras2: Iguana vs. LycanrocWastaken (55.0 | 45.0)
calling it now, iguana's bringing the schnozz from last week
usum1: splodge vs. TheCreatorOfBullsht (20.0 | 80.0)
jokes on you splodge I beat bullsht thrice with joke teams :psysly:
usum2: NToTheN vs. hendrit (80.0 | 20.0)
the margin here is massive
dppt: Planet vs. blahpy (0.1 | 99.9)
overkill mu 2: electrode boogaloo
sv: teamo vs. lag=bad (0.1 | 99.9)
overkill mu 3: comabless strikes back
 
 
Some guy who has absolutely no idea about this tour says words about who wins

Nascent Necrozmas (2.5) vs. (3.5) Mega-Hacked Audinos
gen6ph: Glory vs. Cazenovia (55 | 45)
Cazenovia is good but glory is really good (idk what to say)
gen6ph: realExcaliju vs. Maxouille (50 | 50)
I don’t really know these two
gen7ph: RichardMillePlain vs. cscl (10 | 90)
Cscl is pretty good I guess idk who Richard is
gen7ph: Akira 153 vs. Yourself (30 | 70)
I don’t trust anyone with numbers in their name
gen4ph: Highlord vs. GhastlyPixie (70 | 30)
I’ve heard good things about high lord but I don’t know anything else about em
sv: mayopockets vs. Ransei (20| 80)
Ransei knows what’s he’s doing and is pretty consistent

Sussy Slakings (2) vs. (4) Monday John Maximus
oras1: berry vs. Sheep Liver (60 | 40)
Berry good at video game (idk what to say)
oras2: Iguana vs. LycanrocWastaken (50| 50)
I really don’t know
usum1: splodge vs. TheCreatorOfBullsht (20 | 80)
Yea this isn’t really close
usum2: NToTheN vs. hendrit (0|100)
I can see it now turn 37 NToTheN has a 100/0 mu and has 6 Pokemon at full hp and hendrit has 1 Pokemon left at focus sash and after 2 minutes of thinking NToTheN find the only move that loses the game immediately and get reverse sweep
dppt: Planet vs. blahpy (50| 50)
Idk
sv: teamo vs. lag=bad (10 | 90)
Lag actually plays this tier
 
:slaking: Sussy Slakings (3.5) vs. (2.5) Monday John Maximus :eternatus-eternamax:
gen6ph: berry vs. Sheep Liver
(60/40) I think berry is better but sheep played very well last week.
gen6ph: Iguana vs. LycanrocWastaken
(55/45) leaning towards iguana since I feel like they are slighty better.
gen7ph: splodge vs. TheCreatorOfBullsht
(50/50) excited for this matchup
gen7ph: NToTheN vs. hendrit
(60/40) just leaning towards N
gen4ph: Planet vs. blahpy
(45/55) blaphy played well last week.
Wildcard (gen9ph): teamo vs. lag=bad
(20/80) I feel like lag is a lot better.
 
predicts
:necrozma-ultra: Nascent Necrozmas (3) vs. (3) Mega-Hacked Audinos :audino-mega:
6ph1: Glory vs. Cazenovia (57|43) i do think glory is the better player and caz tends to choke often, but i don't think the skill gap is that large so this should be a good mu
6ph2: realExcaliju vs. Maxouille (60|40) maxouilles building... did not impress last week, and excalju has proven to be strong in a tours format from what ive seen. if maxouille can pull something off or get an actual ransei build he has a shot at winning tho
7ph1: RichardMillePlain vs. cscl (25|75) cscl is goated yeah, but i think it would be interesting to see them go up against somebody that they cant really cteam-cscl in hpl really only went against big names with lots of data from replays and such. aerobee support counts for something too
7ph2: Akira 153 vs. Yourself (45|55) def a highlight mu of the week. yourself has stronger support and is a mainer but akira has better clicking and w1 showed that he can cook. giving edge to yourself tho cuz he now knows that akiras prob pulling out some bullshit and can prep for that with cscls psychic cteaming ability
4ph: Highlord vs. GhastlyPixie (65|35) highlord seems to be a stronger clicker/builder, and pixie bringing more complacent teams compared to highlords cooking seems to put them at a disadvantage
9ph: mayopockets vs. Ransei (30|70) mainer advantage is prob at its strongest in gen 9, probably the format with the most unintuative and complex mechanics. ransei also has better teambuilding, but mayopockets has aerobee support (gen 9 is basically smaller custom game) and is prob a strong enough clicker to have a shot at winning this
 
So I made some predictions for Week 2 before much preparation began. Obviously I couldn't post my predictions then since I have an unfair advantage and could unintentionally leak something through it, but since the week is now over I'm releasing my predictions. Bolded are my predictions for who I thought would win, red indicates I was wrong, green means I was right. I am not including odds.

:necrozma-ultra::necrozma-ultra: Nascent Necrozmas vs. Mega-Hacked Audinos :audino-mega:
gen6ph: Glory vs. Cazenovia
gen6ph: realExcaliju vs. Maxouille
gen7ph: RichardMillePlain vs. cscl
gen7ph: Akira 153 vs. Yourself
gen4ph: Highlord vs. GhastlyPixie
Wildcard (gen9ph): Fc vs. Ransei

:slaking: Sussy Slakings vs. Monday John Maximus :eternatus-eternamax:
gen6ph: berry vs. Sheep Liver
gen6ph: Iguana vs. LycanrocWastaken
gen7ph: splodge vs. TheCreatorOfBullsht
gen7ph: NToTheN vs. hendrit
gen4ph: Planet vs. blahpy
Wildcard (gen9ph): teamo vs. lag=bad​
 
super swag and very inaccurate mayo predicts (week :slaking:)

:necrozma-ultra: Nascent Necrozmas (2) vs. (4) Sussy Slakings :slaking:
gen6ph: realExcaliju vs. berry (50.0 | 50.0)
so many ties to tie with, so little tie, wouldn't you tie? >:)
gen6ph: Glory vs. NToTheN (49.9 | 50.1)
a well-deserved change of scenery for n^n here
gen7ph: RichardMillePlain vs. teamo (50.0 | 50.0)
they gonna reach the turn limit >:)
gen7ph: Akira 153 vs. rightclicker (50.0 | 50.0)
they also tie. reason not predicting, but I predict that they accidentally start a bh game instead of a ph game >:)
gen4ph: Highlord vs. Planet (0.1 | 99.9)
YES.
also overkill mu
bdsp: Fc vs. Iguana (50.0 | 50.0)
my prediction is that neither of them want to play the meta and before the game even starts they agree to tie >:)

:audino-mega: Mega-Hacked Audinos (2.5) vs. (3.5) Monday John Maximus :eternatus-eternamax:
oras1: Cazenovia vs. Sheep Liver (40.0 | 60.0)
caz has been meh this tour
oras2: Maxouille vs. LycanrocWastaken (50.0 | 50.0)
i'm tying all over the place
usum1: cscl vs. TheCreatorOfBullsht (50.0 | 50.0)
they're gonna reach the turn limit >:)
usum2: AnsonIsTheBest vs. lag=bad (40.0 | 60.0)
it would've been different if lag signed up for bdsp
dppt: GhastlyPixie vs. blahpy (50.0 | 50.0)
MORE TIES YAYAYAYAYA
bdsp: Ransei vs. hendrit (99.9 | 0.1)
overkill mu 2: eleceus boogaloo
 
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:necrozma-ultra: Nascent Necrozmas (4.5) vs. (1.5) Sussy Slakings :slaking:
gen6ph: realExcaliju vs. berry (55/45)
Really close but I’m rooting for Excaliju.
gen6ph: Glory vs. NToTheN (50/50)
Really hype game.
gen7ph: RichardMillePlain vs. teamo (60/40) This is just what my gut is saying.
gen7ph: Akira 153 vs. rightclicker (60/40)
I feel like Akira is a better builder and battler.
gen4ph: Highlord vs. Planet (55/45)
Really close but I think Highlord can win.
Wildcard (bdspph): Fc vs. Iguana (40/60)
I mainly just feel like Iguana has a slight edge here.
 
Think I forgot to post predicts last week. Here we go with week 3 predicts

:audino: Mega-Hacked Audinos (4) [2.98-3.43] vs. [2.57-3.02] (2) Monday John Maximus :eternatus-eternamax:

gen6ph: Cazenovia (55-63) vs. (37-45) Sheep Liver
Caz is a much more diverse builder and a somewhat better clicker imo. The margins I favor Caz by differ depending on whether or not they test, though – I was rather appalled by their g1 team last week and, unfortunately, structures like the one brought in g2 don't really fly in modern ORAS anymore (Dual MMX is a good shout here if anyone's willing to take a hint). If they bring solid teams they should be more favored however.

gen6ph: Maxouille (45-55) vs. (45-55) LycanrocWastaken
Maxouille's the clear better clicker but Lycanroc's demonstrated that they're not averse to spamming brokens, while Max's teams have looked underwhelming and/or overly matchup-fishy to me. The margins are rather large because I'm not sure as to what the Audinos' plan for here is – Lycanroc has the advantage if Maxouille brings the same antiquated styles they've used in the previous couple weeks, though Max is advantaged if they bring a comparably good team imo. Also, Lycanroc risks getting counterteamed if they keep loading the same 6, though whether the Audinos are capable enough builders to capitalize on that remains to be seen.

gen7ph: cscl (53) vs. (47) TheCreatorOfBullsht
Extremely close imo so don't read into the bolding too much. Bullsht's reliance on ladder to test teams might be a detriment here since tour teams don't necessarily need to adhere to teambuilding rules that allow for ladder consistency. cscl's cooks can also randomly miss but given Bullsht's building tendencies I don't believe the chance of that occurring to be likely. Both are very strong builders and this is the highlight set (hopefully the first of two) of the tour imo.

gen7ph: AnsonIsTheBest (45-57) vs. (43-55) lag=bad
Honestly really close imo, assuming cscl builds or at least heavily modifies Anson's builds (and I don't see Bullsht doing the same for lag). I've only played Anson a couple of times but they seem like a comparable pilot (at worst slightly weaker) than lag and will clearly bring the more unhinged team. If they build for themselves lag is favored imo, hence the wide margins.

gen4ph: GhastlyPixie (35-45) vs. (55-65) blahpy
This should be relatively close, given both builders have a good amount of experience in the meta, but blahpy seems to be bringing the more overtly broken sets and is the more experienced clicker. I don't understand DPP well enough to really assess playing capabilities though.

Wildcard (bdspph): Ransei (65-70) vs. (30-35) hendrit
Ransei's the better clicker and will pull up with more consistent teams (no shade but I can see lag building some random anti-Mewtwo Jirachi jank that loses to ComaTalk or something). Like with any other meme meta, though, even bo3 sets can realistically go either way.
 
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wow an amoongus predictions

also thanks lycanroc for the formatting i couldnt be bothered to make my own

ORAS 1: realExcaliju vs. Berry
Just feel like Berry has more experience with this, but it should be pretty even.

ORAS 2: Glory vs. NToTheN
yeah not predicting this because i dont think i have enough experience

USUM 1: RichardMillePlain vs. teamo
richard pulling off a win against cscl was unexpected imo, but i do think they played well. i haven't seen teamo pay yet though, but i kinda lean towards richard's side

USUM 2: Akira 153 vs. rightclicker (48-54 | 46-52)
akira has been playing solidly even though they are quite new to usum ph, and so has rightclicker. i haven't seen rightclicker play ph other than a few ladder games, but i have seen akira play so im favoring them a bit

did we notice it is the two BHers faceoff

DP: Highlord vs. Planet (39-45 | 55-61)
also not predicting this because i have absolutely 0 idea about this meta and have seen neither play before

Wildcard: FC Vs Iguana
why am i even predicting when i don't even know who half the people are
 
might as well try my hand at predictions

:necrozma-ultra: Nascent Necrozmas vs. Sussy Slakings :slaking:


ORAS 1: realExcaliju vs. Berry (55-45)
both of them are pretty good, but I've only played berry 5 times and I've seen excaliju play a lot more

ORAS 2: Glory vs. NToTheN (70-30)
N is a gen 7 player, not much else to say here

USUM 1: RichardMillePlain vs. teamo (40-60)
I don't know richard so I've got no idea how good they are, but teamo isn't the greatest at ph from what I've seen

USUM 2: Akira 143 vs. rightclicker (49-51)
aren't these two BH'ers? I have never watched a single game of bh and I barely ever play it, only reason it's 49-51 is because I know who rc is

DP: Highlord vs. Planet (50-50)
I don't know either of you nor do I know gen 4 pure hackmons

Wildcard: FC Vs Iguana (45-55)
I'll admit I don't even know what the wildcard format is this time but I played iguana once and don't know who fc is, so...
 
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