NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN

FNAF is even worse than Geoguessr, what depravity will this thread sink to next? League of Legends?
I used to play LOL until it stopped working on my PC and still doesnt to this day for god knows why.

i intend to work under the assumption there is a 3p btw
What will you do differently, look less for associative tells? I wouldnt worry about it unless we start seeing unaccounted kills at night. Better to focus mafia anyways.

Im just not sure what you intend to do differently.
 
gm i lowkey clocked out of the thread after my first post oops
ty for the birthday wishes :blobthumbsup:
It’s about a mash on psmaf where wisp got dayvigged by her wolf partner 6 hours into the game, truely one of the moments ever.
two hours. it was two hours into the game :wo:
Are you on PS mafia forum?
yes

preliminary thoughts were "all of this seems NAI" (hence the clock-out) so i gave thread a second skim when i woke up
noting the NV from ch3mdah on #40, Ch3mdah is this your first NOC? just curious
surprised that celever leaned 5 mafia over 4 in #42
but angrypidgeon's response to this in #61 and #66 seems disproportionate (idk if "bizarre take" would be the first thing i think)
im really hoping that the 5x night shot thing isnt a partial claim like omg it's day 1 :sob:
noting the read expressed by flandrs in #96; tbh the only other time i played with neon was 6 months ago (oml) and the only thing i remember of it was he subbed into a town slot mid-game and was struggling to catch up with 100+ pages of posts

why do i feel like i just wrote a nothingburger post
well i have to start somewhere
also i would like to confirm that ch3mdah is probably the only person itg who plays limbus company yes

anyway that aside
##Vote: NightEmerald
are u town
 
surprised that celever leaned 5 mafia over 4 in #42
but angrypidgeon's response to this in #61 and #66 seems disproportionate (idk if "bizarre take" would be the first thing i think)
Can you expand on your AP thoughts? Do you feel any similar energy from 108 and 109? I'm kinda finding it weird that AP felt the need to respond twice to the same post, and the second post implied he felt the need to research his flavor just to disprove my (admittedly unsubstantiated) point about it being difficult
 
Celever is a forum moderator, game host, and knowledgable player. If someone else had said the same thing, I wouldn't have responded the way I did
seen, gotcha

Can you expand on your AP thoughts? Do you feel any similar energy from 108 and 109? I'm kinda finding it weird that AP felt the need to respond twice to the same post, and the second post implied he felt the need to research his flavor just to disprove my (admittedly unsubstantiated) point about it being difficult
can't lie but not really? personally i don't find it strange that he responded twice to the same post (hell i do it quite a bit myself) and i really don't see that implication you mentioned
i think my thoughts on AP stemmed from a little bit of confusion on why he responded that way tbh

des121 gm i see you, do you have any thoughts so far
 
What is the logic behind this change of opinion?
It is objectively true in the history of the internet that 4:13 is the most common distribution for a 17 player game. 1:4:12 is also a thing. 5:12 is a very uphill game for town. I don't think its likely at all in this game (10% chance, MAYBE?). I expect Celever will agree with what Im saying here (and I think he does). So its unusual for him to say its "most likely" a 5 mafia game. Like yes it could be, but its unlikely given the context of not only the history of forum mafia, but also Smogon in particular.

5 vs 12 outputs 3 misvotes with no protection or additional kp which could work in some setups but I didn't do the maths this morning 4 is likelier tbf
I strongly assume this is either a 1:4:12 or 4:13 game. If Celever is scum, and is on a 4 person scum team, I dont think its too likely he would just make up that its "probably 5" and then backpedal to saying oh ya its really probably 4. Why would he do that as mafia? Granted, I dont normally like to indulge the "why would a player do X as mafia" line of reasoning because WIFOM is a thing.

Still, it seems far likelier that Celever's explanation that he said something out of hand and then later did the math is true than he said something (objectively) false as scum which he in particular should be expected to know given hes a forum moderator and game designer and reviewer.

That said, if this IS a 1:4:12 or there is a 4+1 (traitor) scenario, I think I would say Celever could still be an SK/Traitor and "slip". So if we end up flipping 4 scum and the game is still going I would give him a hard look for sure.
 
I've sort of accomplished something: noticing that Neon's posts are actually coherent and somewhat thought-out on a consistent basis. Last time I saw that he was my scummate, so this is somewhat concerning.
this might be a weird hill to die on but i really think neon has been trying and succeeding in helping more and more and making better posts, and i think its really disrespectful and if i was him i would feel a little discouraged so id recommend you avoid saying this sort of thing. also its d1 youre basing this off 2 posts chill
 
It is objectively true in the history of the internet that 4:13 is the most common distribution for a 17 player game. 1:4:12 is also a thing. 5:12 is a very uphill game for town. I don't think its likely at all in this game (10% chance, MAYBE?). I expect Celever will agree with what Im saying here (and I think he does). So its unusual for him to say its "most likely" a 5 mafia game. Like yes it could be, but its unlikely given the context of not only the history of forum mafia, but also Smogon in particular.


I strongly assume this is either a 1:4:12 or 4:13 game. If Celever is scum, and is on a 4 person scum team, I dont think its too likely he would just make up that its "probably 5" and then backpedal to saying oh ya its really probably 4. Why would he do that as mafia? Granted, I dont normally like to indulge the "why would a player do X as mafia" line of reasoning because WIFOM is a thing.

Still, it seems far likelier that Celever's explanation that he said something out of hand and then later did the math is true than he said something (objectively) false as scum which he in particular should be expected to know given hes a forum moderator and game designer and reviewer.

That said, if this IS a 1:4:12 or there is a 4+1 (traitor) scenario, I think I would say Celever could still be an SK/Traitor and "slip". So if we end up flipping 4 scum and the game is still going I would give him a hard look for sure.
i generally dislike this sort of reasoning but its probably a slight townread for you (even if im not sure if youre right) based on effort to argue for someone being town. like i dont think mafia does this whole jumping around? im not sure. its probably literally nai though
 
op literally says flavour doesnt matter
It says that, but I am very suspicious of any host's ability to make flavor completely unrelated if they're knowledgeable about the theme. They'll draw subconscious parallels between flavor and role capabilities if nothing else.
this might be a weird hill to die on but i really think neon has been trying and succeeding in helping more and more and making better posts, and i think its really disrespectful and if i was him i would feel a little discouraged so id recommend you avoid saying this sort of thing. also its d1 youre basing this off 2 posts chill
This is literally my first game all year so it might be outdated but it was a genuine observation, and I stand by it being worth saying. Neon is self-aware enough to understand where those thoughts come from.
 
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