NOC E.G.O Wielders Mafia - A 17P Role Madness (Game Thread) - MAFIA WIN

I relooked at day 2 wagon and the joey vote could just be a bus. that's believable to me I can't put joey as high as I'd like

flanders/neon
skip/angrypidgeon
joey/ch3mdah

town/null border

pulsar
des

mafia/null border

wist
NE/evie (but only 1)
realiti/CK

it's obviously too simplistic to say all the mafia were on celever day 1 and not on Hal day 2 but for now I don't think that's a horrible pov to look at the game for now
 
jalmont I thought you lived in the US?

I was out yesterday & will be gone most of today but ill catch up when im at the gym~
I moved to Asia at the beginning of this year

sorry buddy this vote is regrettable but I think it's a relatively decent path forward. I think NE and Evie are also probably OK I just don't want to put in the work to decide one over the other as I think both have merits and demerits

I'm here for like 30 minutes max 1 hour if anyone wants to chat otherwise yeah I won't be on at deadline except to maybe check in real fast during my break
 
I moved to Asia at the beginning of this year

sorry buddy this vote is regrettable but I think it's a relatively decent path forward. I think NE and Evie are also probably OK I just don't want to put in the work to decide one over the other as I think both have merits and demerits

I'm here for like 30 minutes max 1 hour if anyone wants to chat otherwise yeah I won't be on at deadline except to maybe check in real fast during my break
im busy searching up NEs wisteria wallpost on mobile but i ISOed my name under your post and im confused why you're voting me when the only reason you listed was ck's d1 vote. seems kinda like a cop out. everybody else is trying to solve NE/evie so it just reads as lazy
 
WIS PROGRESSION TRACKING
DAY 1
Immediate attempt to force progress, I think the biggest tell of that is "ap reaction feels disproportionate" and the notes on flandr's read on neon
I'm confused because only now do I realize that wis claimed ch3mdah might be the only person here who plays limbus company? She knows this isn't true considering I got her to play it a bit but maybe it's part off the voting me bit
That said vote on me is frankly NAI it's a ps bit.

I like this post personally due to agreeing with me but I think it's easily fakable


(Subsequent posts mentally included)
I think the entire mindmeld on flandrs' reads leans town because I don't really think scum does that unprompted, also wtf that happened at 5 am god I'm a mess
Continuing this I think "I like everyone who's posted a fair bit but that's weird" is a thought I personally have a hard time seeing mafia fake. Like obviously, it can be, but I take more stock in the former, because it's signposting that you intend to look ito things deeper.

This entire thing is mostly a collection/organization of prior thoughts which is fine but I personally am not really getting much of a read off it.

I think this reaction is really good ie there's a tone of frustration here which also implies frustration in the first time this was mentioned. Frankly, mafia doesn't have anything to be frustrated over. (Large rambling rant about fake reads and mafia's attitude towards them which frankly isn't universal). It's also d1 in a smogon mafia game.

I don't think there's anything particularly of note wrt the timing of this

I think this is nifty, this is another one of those personal read things where it's like immediately questioning ck about it feels so towny to me bc it's looping back into the intent to solve stuff, in this case trying to observe CK's thought process to see if he's actually thinking things over or just got caught in 4k. I'll be briefer w this one in the future

Towny, trying to get neon to explain the chain of reasoning leading to the ap vote, more fakable than the others.

This is the weirdest wis post and I just ignore it because I don't know what else to do with it. I invite other people to trll me.

I want to say NAI? I don't see anything in any particular direction but I feel like I should

I like the sentiment wrt getting something started, and it aligns with the way I see wis' posting
The Ck thoughts are... fine, I think the welcoming sanity checks are neater because it ties back into the aforementioned thoughts of thinking all the active people are towny and how those thoughts probably wrong.
The other two are just generically trying to force conversations which is big cool

Continues on the fairy trend, as I read this i had the mental image of the literal definition of wis helping fairy break out of a shell.

This continues for a while I won't quote all of them but like, I see NO reason for mafia to do this and I very rarely see mafia probe someone like this. Like I've seen them probe someone they "scumread" but this? not really

This reads as a genuine hold up and once again wis tries to look for the thought process

I think after all the prying into fairy's thoughts, it's natural that wis would make this read. Frankly I don't really think this changes depending on what the read is just that one was made and shared. Personal read of wis is that wis is frustrated and this is her way of ending the particular flandrs convo with fairy because well frankly even reading that exchange annoyed me.

Wis sees something interesting from fairy and is immediately interested in talking to her again. I think this is particularly such a hard thing to fake, I'm almost certain this is genuine interest in hearing what fairy has to say.

I'm gonna take a break here and come back to this because I don't want to analyze this rn, especially when I haven't brushed my teeth yet
NE, half of wis posts here read NAI to me and you never came back to finish the analysis, nor put this amount of effort on any other slots (including those that are actual voting options / have more scum equity). It just seems like you did an ISO to appear like you're posting helpful content when it doesn't actually help us solve the game, similar to what you did in our game when we were scumpartners
 
Naw if I were a tracker I would have been voteparking Celever after the claim.

My scumteam spec is centered around Evie because of claims. If Evie is mafia I'd think it is

Evie + [Wisteria/Joey/Chemdah]

If Evie is town then someone must have targeted M2H and things get a bit murkier.
Not sure why you're basing your scumteam around a doctor claim, explain? And you think NE is town?
 
^ I didnt like this post. I wrote it off as a certified Des moment when it happened, but like I said shes been less proactive than usual and Im not seeing the usual town Des in her posting.
isn't this just normal des? I have never seem a scum des game but I dont think one would ask for questions every hour if they were trying to avoid suspicious. Feel like they have more town equity than most ppl here
 
Votecount 3.4
NightEmerald (6): realiti, Evie, skippergamez, ImaginaryNeon, Ch3mdah, des121
realiti (2): NightEmerald, JALMONT
des121 (1): AngryPidgeon
Ch3mdah (1): StupidFlandrs48

Hammer is at 7.
Deadline is in approximately 10 hours.
 
I can see the argument for my vote being jumping on the wagon when it was likely to succeed (not that it is a strong argument), given that before I voted it was tied between Neon and Hal, but at the point where skipper voted there was a majority of votes on Neon and only 2 votes on hal, that absolutely cannot be characterized as jumping onto a wagon with momentum
In terms of EoD2 all I see is you guys jumping on at the last minute because that's already the way the wind was blowing. The hal wagon already had momentum by the time skipper came in, and you even tried voting for Neon first before swapping. If hal flips red and you're caught voting neon, getting caught on the CW looks terrible. If Neon flips green then there are even more question marks about people voting Neon to save hal, which intensifies suspicion of him in addition to implicating you, and it gets even worse if you still decide to kill M2H the following night (maybe that's a dumb NK from this alt scum POV but whatever I'm not here to litigate that).
i'll read more later. i like des' string of posts in the past couple of pages


just took a peek at the d1 votecount and i didn't realize NE was a n1 wagon. if NE flips mafia we should definitely look into the VC, but if they flip town i doubt it'll give us much insight. Personally I know I'm town and lean wisteria town too so it seems like a classic D1 Smogon Town moment.

unless his strategy is to bus his entire team, flandrs is probably not scum with NE, making the vote 6-5 so late D1 is risky if they were partners. And I doubt he starts D3 bussing Ch3mdah if they were partners after losing hal. And he's probably not partners with des. So he gets some town equity from unpairing interactions.
Joey's post reflects how I feel about the whole skipper/Joey vs Flandrs situation but their interactions dont seem staged, so even though Flandrs argument doesn't make much sense to me I guess his town equity goes up

Think a bus is worth considering later on in the game but KISS tells me that hal would not let skipper and Joey to a lesser degree bus him when he had viable chances to live
 
since you mentioned one in NE/evie which one do you think is more likely to be partnered with scum!realiti
no clue. CK town read NE pretty strongly and scum read Evie. read of that what you will. I guess it's kind of ironic that realiti is now leading the wagon on NE but you know I cba to really look into how that read changed so I'll let someone smarter than me connect the dots

I mean if NE is town it's a bummer but really I'm not sure how many regrets we can have, he's been objectively scummy with their voting patterns and weird claim. The constant interaction with wist is strange too but I don't know how much I can read into that as a scum thing.
 
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