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Popcorn Mafia 4 - Cycle 14 DECISION Deadline September 3 at 10PM EDT
- Thread starter Aura Guardian
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dunno man I kinda read it and I just nod along
why do you feel like im mind controlling, i had townread miyami and said we shouldnt shoot realiti until we flip skipper (wouldve worked) so i dont really so how ive been influencing the shot target all that much
oh nah idk if you particularly are mind controlling, but if the scumteam does have mind control capabilities throughout it it could be the reason why no one's ever really questioned their townread on you
scum aren't really meant to keep town in the game who everyone townreads because the scum will die before they do
especially with AP and bluedoom being given the guns by scum, AP was p widely townread but not unan and yeah bluedoom wasn't really close to consensus town
not mad at it, a fairy is prob high on the possible scum list in my re-evaled world but the re-eval is in its early stages lol
Can we shoot the afks please, you were defending them yesterday, then they contained mafia, then you got the gun - it kind of adds up more that you were the ot active person who doesn’t want to shoot them
I’d just shoot pulsar and me done with it if I’ve the gun rn, I know it’s boring but it’s inevitable
has there been much anti-tommy content, i feel like he’s been pretty widely townread
I've been like the biggest advocate for shooting skip besides realiti, idek what you're talking about
I'm paranoid that afks are just being lined up as misvigs really
I'm finding it very strange that we finally shoot skipper, who I called out and caught as mafia on basically his first post, who died largely because I caught and pushed on his perspective slip, and three people's response is to... consider shooting me?
Can you give me a solve on who you think the other 4 scum are right now?
Reasons why I think we shouldn't shoot a fairy today:
Also, #650-#652 posts also make me feel like a fairy and airc can't be paired either. There aren't enough people I think are bad that could be on a team with a fairy for her to be scum, is where I'm at now.
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Why Would Skipper Flip on Flandrs?:
Also I was incorrect about Skipper changing their mind on Flandrs at the last second. I looked back and they did fully state it during the Miyami cycle where Miyami was contemplating shooting between Flandrs and Joey.
But they first flipped during the second HyHy Cycle where a lot more people were on the list like Flandrs, Joey, Pulsar, Des, Cel were the most popular that I remember.
In which case, I could see Joey more likely as mafia tbh.
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Final Thoughts:
Aside from that, if I get shot cause my content quality got better that'd make me feel super cool, tbh B-). I kind of thought I was gunna get shot earlier and I picked out a really cool video I'm gunna send if I get to fire a gun. But I still think we should shoot AirC, and then Pulsar, and then maybe Joey afterwards o7
Town
Me
Tommy=Texas=DBD
a fairy>>Evie>>>Celever
Phoopes>>>>Des
Joey>>>Pulsar
AirC
Scum
Also colors are dope.
This post from skipper was pushing a fairy as scum, fairly early on. Some of early discussion was folks kind of scumreading a fairy for commenting on who was chosen as gunbearer, and now much like the Flandrs discourse, it's making me feel like they might just be an easy person to push a shot on. I'm assuming in EGO a fairy was village? If that's the case a fairy also pushed against a Flandrs shot this game, so the logic ain't logic-ing
This isn't Clouds necessarily reading a fairy as scum, but I don't think if Clouds and a fairy were mafia buddies that Clouds would bring up a quote from AP saying a fairy was scummy just to get points for town reading AP.
And this is also partially why I think a fairy / Pulsar can't be teamed aside from a fairy's consistent Pulsar scum read
Also, #650-#652 posts also make me feel like a fairy and airc can't be paired either. There aren't enough people I think are bad that could be on a team with a fairy for her to be scum, is where I'm at now.
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Why Would Skipper Flip on Flandrs?:
Also I was incorrect about Skipper changing their mind on Flandrs at the last second. I looked back and they did fully state it during the Miyami cycle where Miyami was contemplating shooting between Flandrs and Joey.
But they first flipped during the second HyHy Cycle where a lot more people were on the list like Flandrs, Joey, Pulsar, Des, Cel were the most popular that I remember.
In which case, I could see Joey more likely as mafia tbh.
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Final Thoughts:
Aside from that, if I get shot cause my content quality got better that'd make me feel super cool, tbh B-). I kind of thought I was gunna get shot earlier and I picked out a really cool video I'm gunna send if I get to fire a gun. But I still think we should shoot AirC, and then Pulsar, and then maybe Joey afterwards o7
Town
Me
Tommy=Texas=DBD
a fairy>>Evie>>>Celever
Phoopes>>>>Des
Joey>>>Pulsar
AirC
Scum
Also colors are dope.
I'm starting a reread and taking notes, page 3 has some very weird interactions, gives big feelings the remaining scum team is celever+DBD+two inactives
I strongly do not think airC is scum based on early game reading
Chiming in to say I think des is my biggest scum read… I mean I know people have said this is kind of how she plays as town but my thought is that every time she posts she either says pretty much nothing or leaves us with more questions than answers or blatantly refuses to participate/answer any questions directed at her. I think this kind of play style actively hurts town, which makes me suspect her as maf. If she is town and gets the gun, seems like a hella wild card which could be risky but we’ve already eliminated two of the maf so I think we can afford a risk like that
Do you think des is playing this way because she's scum or because she's playing badly? No question her behavior is hurting town, actively not participating in the game is a wasted slot and she should be mod killed by now frankly, but do you think her behaviour is mafia motivated considering it will lead to certain death.
We have joey and pulsar who basically do not exist, des who very clearly doesn't understand mafia game dynamics regardless of her alignment, pebble and dbd who have really only stepped up wrt content today.
What makes des scummier than anyone else in the above list? Is there no one else that really seems sus to you?
I think it’s a little bit of both tbh. I think it was an initial coaching at first to distract us from “better” power players but she took it and ran with it and now it’s just bad play, with no one stepping in to save her because defending her at this point would be nuts considering her behavior is actively hurting town. Perhaps I’m overthinking it but that’s how it’s reading to me.
I just said she was my most scummy read, not my only one. I agree joey and pulsar are not my favorite players in this game due to the inactivity. I think you’re not giving DBD enough credit though I read him more as town, I think his “content” has been better than like, a fairy’s for example. I scumread fairy awhile ago and I still lean that way on her.
Regardless, I think des should be next to go
why did you not do this des
finished my reread
town
airc (clueless day 1, no agenda, pushed by scum - giving me strong "new at mafia and has bad reads as a result but is giving a genuine attempt")
tommy (the only person who actually gives a fuck about the game not stalling to try and get people to play, i think he's town and if not so be it in a game with so much inactivity - that said I'm finding a noticable lack of reads in the posts Tommy please rectify this)
middle
a fairy (I keep wanting to town read them but my gut is refusing to believe it)
phoopes (tonally consistent, I believe they're town, but there isn't enough evidence to override the back of the mind paranoia that their game would resemble a new player scum game, they really haven't felt like they're trying to push the game state forward)
pebble (good solving, good response post to clouds flip - umprompted TR on conf!town miyami and conf!town flanders, on interactions i believe their town, on their own merits something isn't clicking for me in their analysis - noting that realiti had them as a top scum read, also noting that I dropped them four slots progressively as I was working through my reads)
des (clouds shaded them. thats their entire content.)
unclear - both these players I can't get coherent readings from, both have tonally town indicators but posts I find somewhat scum motivated, but neither with enough content to determine if they actually are or are just bad town reads
Evie (1073 is a good post)
joey (1045 is such a wierd thing to say as any alignment)
shot pool
pulsar (likely T/S with celever)
celever (too many scum indicators to count with a handful of town, skipper literally only interacting with celever is a massive red flag when they defended each other; if I'm wrong and he's town I don't think he can ever actually get cleared and his flip strongly influences the other two in this pool)
DBD (i do not believe their content generation is genuine, throughout the thread i keep getting the feeling of someone doing what they know they should be doing without feeling true conviction behind it; mind meld with some similar feelings from AP and miyami - extreme bussing of celever if paired; i really do not like their focus on the airc/pebble supposed interaction that i dont think exists, feels like they want to push a double misfire; reminds me a lot of my middle era scum games where I wouldn't contribute to the thread on a live basis but I'd post a lot of retroactives to give myself time to stay internally consistent - if scum, leaning heavily into bussing and end game win equity; if town - good reads all game)
disjointed observations
celever DBD interaction page 2
celever very early game self-conscious of SRs
a fairy post 61 reading authentic self-assessment of scum gunbearer choice
skipper celever interaction page 3, continued page 4, still only talking to celever page 6, STILL only talking about him ay page 7 - very weird celever/dbd/skipper page 3 interaction
phoopes tonally town
DBD post 72 very defensive of inactives and unusually concerned about the possibility of an early game misfire
airc completely aimless day 1
clouds slightly shading des
pulsar/celever t/s
lots of DBD/celever distancing if paired - extreme distancing
evie/joey is not s/s (i dont remember why i wrote this, i think it was a evie post about joey that seemed too pointed to be scum bussing)
I want to shoot in the following order:
DBD > Celever > pulsar > joey > des > pebble > evie > phooped > a fairy > tommy > airc
town
airc (clueless day 1, no agenda, pushed by scum - giving me strong "new at mafia and has bad reads as a result but is giving a genuine attempt")
tommy (the only person who actually gives a fuck about the game not stalling to try and get people to play, i think he's town and if not so be it in a game with so much inactivity - that said I'm finding a noticable lack of reads in the posts Tommy please rectify this)
middle
a fairy (I keep wanting to town read them but my gut is refusing to believe it)
phoopes (tonally consistent, I believe they're town, but there isn't enough evidence to override the back of the mind paranoia that their game would resemble a new player scum game, they really haven't felt like they're trying to push the game state forward)
pebble (good solving, good response post to clouds flip - umprompted TR on conf!town miyami and conf!town flanders, on interactions i believe their town, on their own merits something isn't clicking for me in their analysis - noting that realiti had them as a top scum read, also noting that I dropped them four slots progressively as I was working through my reads)
des (clouds shaded them. thats their entire content.)
unclear - both these players I can't get coherent readings from, both have tonally town indicators but posts I find somewhat scum motivated, but neither with enough content to determine if they actually are or are just bad town reads
Evie (1073 is a good post)
joey (1045 is such a wierd thing to say as any alignment)
shot pool
pulsar (likely T/S with celever)
celever (too many scum indicators to count with a handful of town, skipper literally only interacting with celever is a massive red flag when they defended each other; if I'm wrong and he's town I don't think he can ever actually get cleared and his flip strongly influences the other two in this pool)
DBD (i do not believe their content generation is genuine, throughout the thread i keep getting the feeling of someone doing what they know they should be doing without feeling true conviction behind it; mind meld with some similar feelings from AP and miyami - extreme bussing of celever if paired; i really do not like their focus on the airc/pebble supposed interaction that i dont think exists, feels like they want to push a double misfire; reminds me a lot of my middle era scum games where I wouldn't contribute to the thread on a live basis but I'd post a lot of retroactives to give myself time to stay internally consistent - if scum, leaning heavily into bussing and end game win equity; if town - good reads all game)
disjointed observations
celever DBD interaction page 2
celever very early game self-conscious of SRs
a fairy post 61 reading authentic self-assessment of scum gunbearer choice
skipper celever interaction page 3, continued page 4, still only talking to celever page 6, STILL only talking about him ay page 7 - very weird celever/dbd/skipper page 3 interaction
phoopes tonally town
DBD post 72 very defensive of inactives and unusually concerned about the possibility of an early game misfire
airc completely aimless day 1
clouds slightly shading des
pulsar/celever t/s
lots of DBD/celever distancing if paired - extreme distancing
evie/joey is not s/s (i dont remember why i wrote this, i think it was a evie post about joey that seemed too pointed to be scum bussing)
I want to shoot in the following order:
DBD > Celever > pulsar > joey > des > pebble > evie > phooped > a fairy > tommy > airc