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Evie
AirC
a fairy
skipper
Tommy
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phoopes
Flandrs
Texas
pulsar
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realiti
AP
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Pebble
bluedoom
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DBD
joey
Miyami
wdyt of something like this being true Tommy^ this is a town to scum spectrum but equally I acc think it's fairly probable top is just town, and then there's 1 from other 4 groups (2 from one)
scum can quite freely spread their macro positioning out so something like joey, DBD, Pebble, AP, phoopes scumteam like sure this could be the world we're living in why not
finished my reread
town
airc (clueless day 1, no agenda, pushed by scum - giving me strong "new at mafia and has bad reads as a result but is giving a genuine attempt")
tommy (the only person who actually gives a fuck about the game not stalling to try and get people to play, i think he's town and if not so be it in a game with so much inactivity - that said I'm finding a noticable lack of reads in the posts Tommy please rectify this)
middle
a fairy (I keep wanting to town read them but my gut is refusing to believe it)
phoopes (tonally consistent, I believe they're town, but there isn't enough evidence to override the back of the mind paranoia that their game would resemble a new player scum game, they really haven't felt like they're trying to push the game state forward)
pebble (good solving, good response post to clouds flip - umprompted TR on conf!town miyami and conf!town flanders, on interactions i believe their town, on their own merits something isn't clicking for me in their analysis - noting that realiti had them as a top scum read, also noting that I dropped them four slots progressively as I was working through my reads)
des (clouds shaded them. thats their entire content.)
unclear - both these players I can't get coherent readings from, both have tonally town indicators but posts I find somewhat scum motivated, but neither with enough content to determine if they actually are or are just bad town reads
Evie (1073 is a good post)
joey (1045 is such a wierd thing to say as any alignment)
shot pool
pulsar (likely T/S with celever)
celever (too many scum indicators to count with a handful of town, skipper literally only interacting with celever is a massive red flag when they defended each other; if I'm wrong and he's town I don't think he can ever actually get cleared and his flip strongly influences the other two in this pool)
DBD (i do not believe their content generation is genuine, throughout the thread i keep getting the feeling of someone doing what they know they should be doing without feeling true conviction behind it; mind meld with some similar feelings from AP and miyami - extreme bussing of celever if paired; i really do not like their focus on the airc/pebble supposed interaction that i dont think exists, feels like they want to push a double misfire; reminds me a lot of my middle era scum games where I wouldn't contribute to the thread on a live basis but I'd post a lot of retroactives to give myself time to stay internally consistent - if scum, leaning heavily into bussing and end game win equity; if town - good reads all game)
disjointed observations
celever DBD interaction page 2
celever very early game self-conscious of SRs
a fairy post 61 reading authentic self-assessment of scum gunbearer choice
skipper celever interaction page 3, continued page 4, still only talking to celever page 6, STILL only talking about him ay page 7 - very weird celever/dbd/skipper page 3 interaction
phoopes tonally town
DBD post 72 very defensive of inactives and unusually concerned about the possibility of an early game misfire
airc completely aimless day 1
clouds slightly shading des
pulsar/celever t/s
lots of DBD/celever distancing if paired - extreme distancing
evie/joey is not s/s (i dont remember why i wrote this, i think it was a evie post about joey that seemed too pointed to be scum bussing)
I want to shoot in the following order:
DBD > Celever > pulsar > joey > des > pebble > evie > phooped > a fairy > tommy > airc
wdyt of something like this being true Tommy
partial reads
Miyami - gunbearer
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should not be shot today
Texas - I don't see Texas's posting coming from a scum perspective. Unless Texas/Celever is S/S (which I do not believe to be the world we live in), his posting is fairly authentic and he's been a good solver. I don't see posts like #427 coming from a scum perspective
Tommy - I've come around to this slot and Tommy's posting has been generally good. Going against things like my Cel scumread and pushing his original viewpoints in a game where there haven't been much so far is making me believe he is town. We'd have to be completely off the mark to shoot here
bluedoom - I am seeing his D2 attitude as simply uninterested town after the HyHy self-kill. Another person who's been pushing discussion topics
Evie - Not as solvy as Texas, but their posting has generally been good and I don't see stuff like #846 coming from scum. Another one where I'd like to see post more, but I think they've earned enough leeway to evade the shot today
potential shot targets
Des - I can't say I agree with AP here, Des's posting feels coached (the scumread on Flandrs was consensus + also poorly backed up, I could definitely see this from scum Des trying to deflect from AP's pressure)
skipper - my guy, you need to post more. the posts he has are okay, can't say I agree with #279 but stuff like #388 is somewhat of a read? i don't think that sort of read is coached, but that's basically all skipper has so I'm fine with shooting him and hopefully seeing if he picks up in activity
ShyPebble/AirC - at some point we have to sort these two, and it can't hurt to solve them earlier than later as Tommy said
will post part 2 soon once i finish a piece of work
Tommy
Texas
Celever
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realiti
AP
bluedoom
Miyami
phoopes
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DBD
des
Pebble
AirC
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skipper
pulsar
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a fairy
flandrs
joey
feel free to ask for any reasonings, it is pretty funny that tommy texas and celever are all my top townreads but i think theyve all been invested in contributing to the games progress and scumhunting.
i feel like this could be coming from a tommy/dbd scumteam who knows that airc is gonna tunnel dbd, but also it is a good idea to slow down and discuss so im a bit conflictedthis is a phase we should slow down and discuss AirC btw so please dont shoot quick i would like to talk to people since if we miss today we are also essentially choosing who can win or lose the game for town tomorrow
i could see this being a possibility if celever flips wolf, but i would hold off on any tinfoil hats before we flip celevermy spidey senses for some reason are telling me evie is potential deepwolf btw but also i dont want to go there yet but just pushing that out into the world i need to like go back and review her because its complete vibes read and maybe im just fanfictioning myself
i feel like this could be coming from a tommy/dbd scumteam who knows that airc is gonna tunnel dbd, but also it is a good idea to slow down and discuss so im a bit conflicted
i think whether its from a scum or town POV might be down to dbds alignment; if dbd is town then scum!tommy just lets airc shoot dbd, if dbd is scum then its either a scumbuddy trying to control the shot or just tommy being pro-town
through that logic tommy is actually probtown then
i think you missed a phrase hereI think pebble is most likely mafia out of that group but I would rather and have the gun if it’s the last shot of the game over a first time player and we happened to miss ngl
Tommy what are your thoughts on the readslists that you posted btw
Rather dbd have the gun over pebble (if they were both town)i think you missed a phrase here
also interested on your thoughts on the other readslists you posted - i feel like theres not a whole lot that can be discerned because of how spread out mafia can play but you mustve posted them for a reason so im curious as to what you think of themAssuming you mean yours, I think the readlist was pretty like rand with the mafia spread throughout so I don’t think it really told me much but I just posted it since I already done it in case others are interested