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Popcorn Mafia 4 - Game Over, Village Wins

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You and celever spent two pages arguing while also pushing for another person, you are trying to keep all options open and widen poe

Phoopes is trying to tighten the poe, while knowing he’s in a vulnerable spot and even if Texas shoots his partner today, the way he’s played might doom his team to lose regardless if he survives today as mafia

He also has done a massive re evaluation and in the limited posts he’s had in the thread (not saying they weren’t good content before he gets mad) he has shown more interest in actually solving the game and evaluating than you or celever who just look to be antispewing to me

Sorry if wrong but ultimately it comes down to Texas anyways
 
This does kinda make sense in an Evie scum world, I don’t really think it makes much sense to call Texas obvious town never reconsider without also doing the same for me - and I think in this situation really you should be doing it for neither personally but also the inconsistency is the oddest bit for me but I am biased
even then celever never said anything about me never reconsidering you or being inconsistent or whatever; it has to come from somewhere which is what leads me to believe you have an agenda
 
You and celever spent two pages arguing while also pushing for another person, you are trying to keep all options open and widen poe

Phoopes is trying to tighten the poe, while knowing he’s in a vulnerable spot and even if Texas shoots his partner today, the way he’s played might doom his team to lose regardless if he survives today as mafia

He also has done a massive re evaluation and in the limited posts he’s had in the thread (not saying they weren’t good content before he gets mad) he has shown more interest in actually solving the game and evaluating than you or celever who just look to be antispewing to me

Sorry if wrong but ultimately it comes down to Texas anyways
wait so i shouldnt be saying someone is obvious town and never reconsidering but also if i think it could be someone else apart from the one person im most confident on im scum for that. im so confused
 
even then celever never said anything about me never reconsidering you or being inconsistent or whatever; it has to come from somewhere which is what leads me to believe you have an agenda

No I said that as you were pushing me all day

But you hadn’t locked in Texas as town evidently so the point is moot, I’ve rescinded it as such

But for the sake of clarity tinfoiling clears or locking them in both can be towny or scummy, depending on the situation

In this case what I had said isn’t a good look is if people are situationally inconsistent as tinfoiling all your reads in endgame tends to either happen or not happen depending on the player making the reads, not the individual reads you have to much

That being said we can both agree you weren’t inconsistent and said yesterday as your last mention of Texas that you could see a world he is mafia
 
Like, the action of who you want shot today matters a lot beyond who your two scumread are right

Because the only day who is shot )as long as it’s not you) is today

So arguing with celever and scumreading celever doesn’t matter unless you’re calling for him to be shot

And then vice versa, you guys getting into a fight is only really relevant if it’s calling for action but celever has argued with you a lot then called for phoopes shot - so in the world you guys are mafia it’s looking unpaired with no loss, because you’re gaining credit without actually driving the push on phoopes

If phoopes is shot you guys shrug and have won the game today - doesn’t matter

If one of you guys are shot then your fight just looks good tomorrow because you want people to look back on the fight, so the argument only matters if I see you guys asking the other to be shot, which you haven’t done so like the fight has no material effect on the game so far as you guys are demanding it’s only being used as a way to shape perception rn

In short: you guys are talking the talk like you are against each other

but you guys are walking the walk like you are happy to have the fun aimed at phoopes, who ends the game if he’s town

So a world you guys are partnered - it’s a win win for you to behave the way you have no matter what Texas decides
 
While I don’t think realiti is all the way a lock to be town, I definitely do read them as town a lot more now based off the results of the shot.

Agreeing with the post that said a fairy has felt largely unproductive this game. Like if you asked me any of the points that she’s made, off the top of my head I wouldn’t be able to tell you anything. Reads to me as activity fluff so I lean reading her as maf I think at this point.

If Texas and Celever are in a heated battle against each other (not saying that they are but if it does come to that) I’m taking Texas’s side. Seems to be more pro-town/productive in his posts than Celly

unpartnering to clever phoopes I think
 
I forget who said it but re: Texas v Celly being town v town I think it’s a very real possibility so I didn’t mean to fan the flames there, was just doing some thinking out loud

Seems like everyone and their mom things skipper is maf. I haven’t really seen it that way tbh, feels like to me there was a big bandwagon/dogpile on the guy so I’m still unsure and waiting for more to be said from him

a fairy though reads as scummy to me. I feel like a lot of her posts are just like an activity check so she doesn’t get accused of laying too low, while simultaneously not bringing much “content” to the table
Less unpartnering lmao whoops
 
Hm trying to parse the above content on how closely Tommy read or not

Bc my solve is Evie/phoopes lol

I’m reasonably confident in it and don’t care about the order that much I trust Texas on it so the portrayal above is a bit erroneous
 
In full preference I would shoot phoopes first as I think he’s likelier your partner than Evie would be but it’s not by a wide stretch anyway, still think there’s been some interesting partnering from both of you just to a slightly lesser degree than phoopes
 
I feel like after rereading phoopes that stories of my gameplay being the same as his have been greatly exaggerated lmao

But whatever that’s fine I just don’t really see it, he moreso just had generic takes than Tommy takes
 
Like, the action of who you want shot today matters a lot beyond who your two scumread are right

Because the only day who is shot )as long as it’s not you) is today

So arguing with celever and scumreading celever doesn’t matter unless you’re calling for him to be shot

And then vice versa, you guys getting into a fight is only really relevant if it’s calling for action but celever has argued with you a lot then called for phoopes shot - so in the world you guys are mafia it’s looking unpaired with no loss, because you’re gaining credit without actually driving the push on phoopes

If phoopes is shot you guys shrug and have won the game today - doesn’t matter

If one of you guys are shot then your fight just looks good tomorrow because you want people to look back on the fight, so the argument only matters if I see you guys asking the other to be shot, which you haven’t done so like the fight has no material effect on the game so far as you guys are demanding it’s only being used as a way to shape perception rn

In short: you guys are talking the talk like you are against each other

but you guys are walking the walk like you are happy to have the fun aimed at phoopes, who ends the game if he’s town

So a world you guys are partnered - it’s a win win for you to behave the way you have no matter what Texas decides
no i completely understand why me and celever would fight as scumbuds, i just dont understamd why you think im scum for considering you and phoopes as possibilities when you also scumread me for (in your mind) taking someone out of the poe
 
I feel like after rereading phoopes that stories of my gameplay being the same as his have been greatly exaggerated lmao

But whatever that’s fine I just don’t really see it, he moreso just had generic takes than Tommy takes
Main thing in my mind is both townread each other early (which is how you prefer to play scum) and both pushed the inactives mindset

Idr minutiae differences but they almost don’t matter bc the overall mindset of shoot all inactives was shared, which makes order irrelevant

Besides that you shared reads on eg me Texas Evie joey all at the same time, idr phoopes’ DBD progression at all admittedly, but some relevant players that spring to mind (I’m p sure phoopes scumread joey when the rest of us did)
 
Mostly I remember several occasions where Tommy said something and within 24 hours phoopes would just like, say the same thing basically

Idr what they were but I remembered identifying the pattern and we all know my memory is perfect so
 
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