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SPOILERS! Legends ZA Data Dumps - Adding Info to OP

Uh, it's not not Dragonitite though? It's Dragoninite, at least according to Bulbapedia and Serebii.

I don't have the game yet, but I would assume they don't both have it wrong.
 
This game marks the first time that Volt Tackle is a level up move for the Pikachu line, with all of them learning it at Level 99. Since it is the only Egg Move that cannot be passed between two individuals via Daycare method in Gen 8 or the Mirror Herb method in Gen 9 due to its unique requirements, I sincerely hope that they keep it as a level up move from now on.

I'm aware that HOME lets a member of the Pikachu line that knows Volt Tackle in one game to relearn it in another, but the individual in question must already know it or have had it tutored in Gen 7 or LA. This is important for any Pikachu in a cap since those cannot move into either Legends title. As such, they must have been tutored Volt Tackle in Alola or have known it when it was distributed, otherwise they cannot currently learn it.
 
Or have it look like some weird cape

basically anything other than this giant eye-catching red chunk of....well honestly the art style makes me think of like plastic lmao but I presume carapace or scales or whatever, that just just outs of the base of the neck before clamping down.
Yeah, it's got that thing going on a bunch of Transformers and non-Transformer transforming toys have where a big chunk of one form is just sort of hanging off it in the other and it looks terrible.

Also made a tierlist
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Weird number of new megas that feel like Gigantimax forms to me, turns out. Also Skarmory would be up in "understood the assignment" if not for the giant clown feet, I can't take it seriously after that picture someone posted in here of it standing on the ground.
 
So do you think Meowstic, Tatsugiri and Magearna will be sharing same Mega for all forms (Pyroar style)?
Makes one wonder if M-Tatsugiri will work with Dondozo.
Based on the fact that there is form data for each of Magearna's forms and each of Tatsugiri's forms I would expect them to have different megas. They're probably all very similar in design, but may have some other differences between them, such as ability or variations in stat spread. While original color Magearna is just a palette swap of modern magearna, I could see GF giving their megas a functional difference.

Meowstic, on the other hand, only seems to have data for a single form, so I would guess that either i) the two forms share a mega like pyroar, despite playing differently, or ii) only one sex gets the mega .
 
Based on the fact that there is form data for each of Magearna's forms and each of Tatsugiri's forms I would expect them to have different megas. They're probably all very similar in design, but may have some other differences between them, such as ability or variations in stat spread. While original color Magearna is just a palette swap of modern magearna, I could see GF giving their megas a functional difference.

Meowstic, on the other hand, only seems to have data for a single form, so I would guess that either i) the two forms share a mega like pyroar, despite playing differently, or ii) only one sex gets the mega .
I've thought about it more and I do think that the reason Tatsugiri will account for its different forms is because of Commander. Either it just keeps Commander and they want to have Order Up read the form properly or it gets Super Commander and now there's extra effects per each one.


I am still less sure about Magearna.
Especially because I just keep looking at the form list
1422 97C8A6C6E8978033 ZKN_FORM_801_001 Original Color
1423 8D25FBC75AE22712 msg_c276ff91f20b1aa3d38a601a804fd544
1424 CCCB42C2E94482DD msg_db7bf3ddda525e9523c2b38bac46ef22
1425 788D5AB40C5453E5 msg_d910c605de4ec0b2d276cf2d236016f7
1426 BE694ADCDDBF18A8 msg_30569cb593b6839b60a2524d4fc02e24
1427 2D5BE469BD77F93B msg_7098dffbfd9f4d51f6a3f675d4abeeb4
1428 D91321759705C875 ZKN_FORM_809_999 Gigantamax
Original Color isn't scrubbed out. And I'm still not sure why there's 5 places here. Even with Mega OC Magearna that'd only account for 3 spots. Scrapped ideas?
 
I've thought about it more and I do think that the reason Tatsugiri will account for its different forms is because of Commander. Either it just keeps Commander and they want to have Order Up read the form properly or it gets Super Commander and now there's extra effects per each one.


I am still less sure about Magearna.
Especially because I just keep looking at the form list

Original Color isn't scrubbed out. And I'm still not sure why there's 5 places here. Even with Mega OC Magearna that'd only account for 3 spots. Scrapped ideas?
Wiat what's this? 1428 D91321759705C875 ZKN_FORM_809_999 Gigantamax
 
Wiat what's this? 1428 D91321759705C875 ZKN_FORM_809_999 Gigantamax
GMax Melmetal (809 is its number 999 is the form marker for GMAX). The form list lists all forms.

1466 D43FA0D480C66BDF ZKN_FORM_890_999 Eternamax
1467 D3AB9A0DE167C7AB ZKN_FORM_892_001 Rapid Strike Style
1468 97FA7F0DBFDCC3C5 ZKN_FORM_892_999 Gigantamax
1469 97FA7E0DBFDCC212 ZKN_FORM_892_998 Gigantamax
1470 9F51B9F5B348DD48 ZKN_FORM_893_001 Dada
1471 1F85541093F424DD ZKN_FORM_898_001 Ice Rider
1472 1F85511093F41FC4 ZKN_FORM_898_002 Shadow Rider
1473 FABD41DF60D2A8DB ZKN_FORM_900_001 Lord Form
1474 51B5DBF9946E9D55 ZKN_FORM_902_001 Female
1475 669AB7F9A53671C4 ZKN_FORM_905_001 Therian Forme
1476 5FB7890EE46B7908 ZKN_FORM_916_001 Female
1477 996560D0DCCDD26B ZKN_FORM_917_001 Three-Segment Form
1478 87D03461029D0F2C ZKN_FORM_934_001 Hero Form
Here's from later in the list. If they list the ZKN_FORM thing that means that (at least as far as we know) they're not going to be in the DLC. So when I say "scrubbed" i just mean they got rid of that. There's probably a better term for it, I'll admit.

e: Anyway that's what makes the Magearna thing seem very odd to me.
 
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Based on the fact that there is form data for each of Magearna's forms and each of Tatsugiri's forms I would expect them to have different megas. They're probably all very similar in design, but may have some other differences between them, such as ability or variations in stat spread. While original color Magearna is just a palette swap of modern magearna, I could see GF giving their megas a functional difference.

Meowstic, on the other hand, only seems to have data for a single form, so I would guess that either i) the two forms share a mega like pyroar, despite playing differently, or ii) only one sex gets the mega .
I mean the only differences between the two
I've thought about it more and I do think that the reason Tatsugiri will account for its different forms is because of Commander. Either it just keeps Commander and they want to have Order Up read the form properly or it gets Super Commander and now there's extra effects per each one.


I am still less sure about Magearna.
Especially because I just keep looking at the form list

Original Color isn't scrubbed out. And I'm still not sure why there's 5 places here. Even with Mega OC Magearna that'd only account for 3 spots. Scrapped ideas?
Well, one of them's Mega Zeraora. We already know for a fact that Mega Zeraora is a thing, and Zeraora is between Magearna and Melmetal.
 
I mean the only differences between the two

Well, one of them's Mega Zeraora. We already know for a fact that Mega Zeraora is a thing, and Zeraora is between Magearna and Melmetal.
I neglected to list off Zeraora, but that was part of "my account for 3 spots" quip
Mega Magearna
Mega Magearna OC
Mega Zeraora

Without the Original Color mega it'd only be two.

only thing I can think of, assuming nothing was scrapped or is out of order, is maybe someone of Magearna, Marshadow, Zeraora or Melmetal just get new non-mega forms in addition to Mega Magearna(s) & Mega Zeraora
 
Based on the fact that there is form data for each of Magearna's forms and each of Tatsugiri's forms I would expect them to have different megas. They're probably all very similar in design, but may have some other differences between them, such as ability or variations in stat spread. While original color Magearna is just a palette swap of modern magearna, I could see GF giving their megas a functional difference.

Meowstic, on the other hand, only seems to have data for a single form, so I would guess that either i) the two forms share a mega like pyroar, despite playing differently, or ii) only one sex gets the mega .
Speaking about Meowstic. Does Urbain/Taunie differ based on gender choice of the MC?
 
Actually how would Commander even work in LZA. This game doesn't do doubles/tag battles right?

I guess there will just be no interaction between Tatsugiri and Dondozo in here, makes me somewhat skeptical Mega Tatsugiri will have anything to do with it
It depends. I saw some missions where you fight 5 Floette at once so who knows. Maybe Dondozo will swallow all 3 Tatsu, 1 being Mega.
Also thinking from Champions perspective.
 
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