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Tommy said:
He’s so clueless I can’t tell if it’s performative or legit stuff he would know but like

When he’s in thread it’s not that he doesn’t know and is trying to figure it out it’s that he consistently is missing things like voting the town clear Hal and stuff and last game he didn’t feel like the guy who was so far out of the loop

So idk if it’s performative or he’s just like not keeping up with the game but if he’s not keeping up with thread he could not be keeping up with mafia chat either (if he’s mafia)

I do agree with you it’s incredibly hard to read him off what he’s given, anything we do say about him is some leap of faith justification that doesn’t really hold up insanely well
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ya I agree, and I think not keeping up w/ the game including the mafia chat would explain weird things like voting hal(he's not seeing the mafia chat for his buddies to yell at him to stop throwing)
 
bluedoom said:
I feel like for me its how strongly do I feel about someone who has basically done nothing all game, and who is curiously more inactive than the previous game where he was town leader vs someone who has made an effort but has made actions that aligned with the mafia agenda, you know?
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i dont think its worthwhile comparing an oc game to an noc game tbh, though he was more active in the last noc i think, or followed more at least

that being said there was less mechanics involved
 
Tommy said:
Realiti has played well and posted well but caught up in mafia siding, what we know explicitly was an agenda mafia wanted to hard force to save Joey
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I think this is an agenda youve constructed in your head because they have done nothing to see joey

Again the most likely situation is that they were fine with WW dying because I was the consensus MYLO vote at the time and they win if I flip town
 
realiti said:
I think this is an agenda youve constructed in your head because they have done nothing to see joey

Again the most likely situation is that they were fine with WW dying because I was the consensus MYLO vote at the time and they win if I flip town
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there was points where bluedoom vote was considered though, would you vote airc here?
 
I dont see why AirC's cluelessness is towny because it is easily fakable, especially because you guys are townreading him for being clueless

What's stopping him from seeing that and going "guess I'll just continue to keep the act up?" Now he isnt posting and we gave him an excuse to provide 0 content

AirC is a newbie but he is a capable player and when we have been in do-or-die situations for 3 days you'd expect some urgency and engagement as a townie which has not happened on his end

I will reiterate that he has 0 reads and for the 6th time I will ask Tommy and Hal to read his ISO and tell me what is towny about it
 
AirC said:
Right now we are 6v3v1 :

1) We gamble and hit werewolf, should be easy enough for town to win.
2) We gamble and hit the 3rd hidden mafia, same as voting Celever or a fairy
3) We gamble and hit town, it means we're 5v3v1
3.1) 2 town deaths, 3v3v1 not clear who wins but it's not town
3.2) 1 town death 1 mafia death it ends up as 4v2v1
4) We simply vote celever or a fairy worst case scenario we're 4v2v1, which is the same as 3.2 expect we didn't trust blindly in the werewolf to not fuck us over
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this irks me because he is clearly following the thread enough to know whats going on but has done nothing after this, its content for the sake of content
 
the fact that he can post that means hes a decent player not a clueless one

I feel like fairy and celever are coaching him in scumchat telling him to not post but thats just my 2 cents, in general scum dont post if they can coast unless they are powerwolf
 
Also I did say Joey was likely WW and at the end i was not trying to stop him being voted out, I simply left my vote on AirC bc 1) it didnt matter and 2) IMO airC is 95% scum and Joey was 60ish% WW and I would have felt bad voting off town Joey after he did a 180 on my slot
 
I’ve opened up the Poe to him and bluedoom, and I think bluedoom is towny as a result after this with his new posting

But like I’m struggling to read him and trying to force, I think I’ve said a lot recently that like it could be either you or airc

Airc had little to go on which makes it hard to read him at all, whereas you have both good and bad things going for you, I don’t think that’s unfair

I do agree what airc does is fakeable and he’s not like hard cleared, but it’s not instant mafia for not posting imo, and true last noc he was more involved
 
I also dont think airC is normally a slam dunk but I just hard townread you and bluedoom

Celever and Scary's interactions are super unpairing and bluedoom is just playing like every game ive seen him in town + actually trying to solve + i agree with him 90% of the time
 
realiti said:
the fact that he can post that means hes a decent player not a clueless one

I feel like fairy and celever are coaching him in scumchat telling him to not post but thats just my 2 cents, in general scum dont post if they can coast unless they are powerwolf
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But then why is he doing stuff like voting Hal who is cleared, if he’s mafia I think he’s just been inactive and if he’s town I think he’s just been inactive in patches and it’s not really something I think makes him towny or mafia just hard to read
 
realiti said:
Also I did say Joey was likely WW and at the end i was not trying to stop him being voted out, I simply left my vote on AirC bc 1) it didnt matter and 2) IMO airC is 95% scum and Joey was 60ish% WW and I would have felt bad voting off town Joey after he did a 180 on my slot
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You changed your opinion last in the thread when the decision was made, I don’t care about the actual vote it was the time of progression came only when it didn’t matter

So for all real purposes you might as well not have changed your opinion, and like if you’re town great you got there in the end cool good

But as mafia it’s convenient to push the scum agenda all phase then only change after it doesn’t matter right, it has to be considered
 
I would never sell out the WW there as scum bc I'd feel bad especially if I just experienced being screwed out of a W through the town cop so I dont think Celever and fairy keeping the WW name to themselves is indicative of their agenda
 
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