Oh yeah I guess from your POV I could be a mafia goon lying about being jail keeper and we’re actually in scenario 3 (tracker, follower, 8VT, 3 goons)
That’d be a crazy big brain play on my part but I promise that’s not what’s happening haha
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That’d be a crazy big brain play on my part but I promise that’s not what’s happening haha
Not actually, as I said the day before, you could be permablocked. And mafia assuming that one of them would die soon when there are 2 of their members doesnt seem realistic, I think they would just prefer planning on the both of them being alive as long as possible. And they can just kill you next cycle if one of them dies and assume that they dont get unlucky, sometimes its better to keep the doubt than to kill it
Okay so I've gotten up to the Weird Shit(tm)
Hello! I am halfway through moving and also have a really awkward timezone wrt everyone else (the joey pushed happened from about midnight to 7am my time). I'm on my laptop for once so I'll read back on the joey wagon now
##vote pulsar
the two other games have the mafia voting relatively early. so what was the plan this game? miyami bussed des and des voted scum!dbd in order to make sure the bus happened to clear miyami and/or dbd?
i truly believe that is just not a good strategy. even if you thought it was good strategy, i think in general it's just rude to commit to voting a teammate out day 1 and not give them a chance to play the game, even if you had the greatest mafia player ever on a team with the worst player ever. which is why I do not think that there was a real coordinated effort for a bus.
ImaginaryNeon please place a real vote today I understand it takes you longer than the average person to read the thread but we really can't afford you self voting everyday. if that's something you cannot commit to it's only fair that you let us know sooner rather than later. if you self vote in a lylo situation that will be very upsetting to everyone.
30+ player game doesn't count.
the two other games have the mafia voting relatively early. so what was the plan this game? miyami bussed des and des voted scum!dbd in order to make sure the bus happened to clear miyami and/or dbd?
i truly believe that is just not a good strategy. even if you thought it was good strategy, i think in general it's just rude to commit to voting a teammate out day 1 and not give them a chance to play the game, even if you had the greatest mafia player ever on a team with the worst player ever. which is why I do not think that there was a real coordinated effort for a bus.
ImaginaryNeon please place a real vote today I understand it takes you longer than the average person to read the thread but we really can't afford you self voting everyday. if that's something you cannot commit to it's only fair that you let us know sooner rather than later. if you self vote in a lylo situation that will be very upsetting to everyone.
I still think you are town but we really need you to place a vote next time. I understand having a bad timezone, but leaving the game thread unvoted when you know you can't make deadline doesn't help us. We need to know where you stand on people and who you believe is scum. like if you felt strongly phoopes wasn't mafia, not voting there really hurts them because you aren't providing a vote on a possible couterwagon.
I'm voting Pulsar because that's who Joey voted yesterday but I'm not committed to that vote by any means. I thought their swap to phoopes came really out of nowhere.
#378 by pulsar has them saying they want one of airc/genisu/shypebble so when that opportunity presented itself, it's weird that pulsar suddenly thought that phoopes was actually an ok vote. reads to me like someone ok voting pretty much anywhere that's not their partner
#378 by pulsar has them saying they want one of airc/genisu/shypebble so when that opportunity presented itself, it's weird that pulsar suddenly thought that phoopes was actually an ok vote. reads to me like someone ok voting pretty much anywhere that's not their partner
GENISU
CELEVER
PHOOPES
DBD
MIYAMI
PEUM
null - NEON
SP
PULSAR
SP had a bad EOD the fact that they weren't going to be on to post a vote is a bad sign and then when they did come on they basically just said they were confused and were waffling pretty hard between phoopes and joey in #760
I do tinfoil phoopes as mafia still I mean it would obviously be a smart play to fake claim JK and really there's absolutely nothing we can do to confirm their role. it's why I said they probably couldn't claim at all because if legit they just get roleblocked until the end of the game so there's really no meaning to do so.
CELEVER
PHOOPES
DBD
MIYAMI
PEUM
null - NEON
SP
PULSAR
SP had a bad EOD the fact that they weren't going to be on to post a vote is a bad sign and then when they did come on they basically just said they were confused and were waffling pretty hard between phoopes and joey in #760
I do tinfoil phoopes as mafia still I mean it would obviously be a smart play to fake claim JK and really there's absolutely nothing we can do to confirm their role. it's why I said they probably couldn't claim at all because if legit they just get roleblocked until the end of the game so there's really no meaning to do so.
AngryPidgeon if the jailkeeper targets person A, the kill also targets person A, and the mafia roleblocker targets the jailkeeper, what happens?
des121 (3): Miyami~~~, Evie, Dead by Daylight
pulsar512b (2): phoopes, Celever
Dead by Daylight (2): des121, genisu
No Vote (1): jalmont
ImaginaryNeon (1): ImaginaryNeon
Phoopes (1) Shypebble
Not voting (3): AirC, Peum, pulsar512b
Joey (4): jalmont, phoopes, ShyPebble, peum
phoopes (2): genisu, pulsar
peum (1): Celever
Dead by Daylight (1): ImaginaryNeon
Celever (1): Dead by Daylight
Pulsar(1): joey
Not voting (1): Miyami
the fact that dbd and miyami werent really involved in eod is frustrating as it makes looking at eod voting challenging.
i dunno it feels like one of phoopes or celever is probably mafia? for me i contrast those two with pulsar. if pulsar is scum, then yeah cel plus phoopes town makes a lot of sense.
SP is probably not mafia given d1 - unless the team is exactly pulsar/des/SP then they could've saved des by voting pulsar there and it would have been relatively reasonable/easy to do so. Neon could have also saved des d1 but didn't so I guess you can throw them into that bucket too. interesting that the off wagon voters all could have changed at deadline but didn't. usually i feel like mafia throw their vote away on someone random if they can't be on at deadline and that's how offwagons are formed but this time it's different.
cant really clear celever because genisu's dbd vote came after celever. scum!celever maybe keeps their vote on DBD if they see that genisu vote.
if phoopes is town then it's just peum and pulsar? which would make sense that the mafia team just gets sunk by being afk and not voting. hm
pulsar512b (2): phoopes, Celever
Dead by Daylight (2): des121, genisu
No Vote (1): jalmont
ImaginaryNeon (1): ImaginaryNeon
Phoopes (1) Shypebble
Not voting (3): AirC, Peum, pulsar512b
Joey (4): jalmont, phoopes, ShyPebble, peum
phoopes (2): genisu, pulsar
peum (1): Celever
Dead by Daylight (1): ImaginaryNeon
Celever (1): Dead by Daylight
Pulsar(1): joey
Not voting (1): Miyami
the fact that dbd and miyami werent really involved in eod is frustrating as it makes looking at eod voting challenging.
i dunno it feels like one of phoopes or celever is probably mafia? for me i contrast those two with pulsar. if pulsar is scum, then yeah cel plus phoopes town makes a lot of sense.
SP is probably not mafia given d1 - unless the team is exactly pulsar/des/SP then they could've saved des by voting pulsar there and it would have been relatively reasonable/easy to do so. Neon could have also saved des d1 but didn't so I guess you can throw them into that bucket too. interesting that the off wagon voters all could have changed at deadline but didn't. usually i feel like mafia throw their vote away on someone random if they can't be on at deadline and that's how offwagons are formed but this time it's different.
cant really clear celever because genisu's dbd vote came after celever. scum!celever maybe keeps their vote on DBD if they see that genisu vote.
if phoopes is town then it's just peum and pulsar? which would make sense that the mafia team just gets sunk by being afk and not voting. hm
can you not write in black this is illegible
Fixed the colour x3
pinging people that have been inactive that should really post their thoughts
Dead by Daylight ShyPebble pulsar512b Miyami~~~ ImaginaryNeon (posted but didnt post their thoughts)
Dead by Daylight ShyPebble pulsar512b Miyami~~~ ImaginaryNeon (posted but didnt post their thoughts)
Okay so the Joey wagon seemed kind of really not good and I'm not sure where it actually came from outside of desperation to not hit a PR rather than anything actually scummy, I would rather figure out who on that wagon is mafia than take another blind shot
A lot of Joey's perceived waffling makes sense considering he got dropped in the game near eod and didn't really have much time to ingratiate himself before he became a wagon, so I'm not surprised he ended up on Phoopes like he did. Unfortunately we can't confirm Phoopes' role is real until he actually stops something so while voting for him is probably pointless for a bit I don't think we can entirely rule him out.
I can't tell if I think Peum is scummy or if they're just really bad at explaining themselves but I think they and/or pebble are the most likely to be scum on that wagon. Genisu is obviously dead and buried now and I still think Jalmont is probably at the top of my townlist so I would rather go for one of those two today.
At some point we are going to have to sort neon and celever
A lot of Joey's perceived waffling makes sense considering he got dropped in the game near eod and didn't really have much time to ingratiate himself before he became a wagon, so I'm not surprised he ended up on Phoopes like he did. Unfortunately we can't confirm Phoopes' role is real until he actually stops something so while voting for him is probably pointless for a bit I don't think we can entirely rule him out.
I can't tell if I think Peum is scummy or if they're just really bad at explaining themselves but I think they and/or pebble are the most likely to be scum on that wagon. Genisu is obviously dead and buried now and I still think Jalmont is probably at the top of my townlist so I would rather go for one of those two today.
At some point we are going to have to sort neon and celever