CAP 8 CAP 8 - Art Submissions

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There. Now to start coloring the back view.
 
For Cyzir:

1) Megaman boss. First thing to pop into my head honestly. It's too robotic looking. Maybe it's just how I see it (hard to make the sketches out completely), but I'd pass.

2) lol it does look like Bowser. While it's cool it doesn't look much like a pokemon as opposed to a Nintendo boss; also not much in the electric field (apart from the electibuzz legs XD). I would think it'd be much more suited to Fire/Dragon.

3) I like where the inspiration came from, but I don't like chicken/bird things (just me though!). You're onto something, but I think Doug's taken a similar approach (not completely linear but the similarities are there). Best of the 4 imo.

4) Yeah, I can't make it out, but you said you don't like it so whatever.

There. Now to start coloring the back view.

Make sure you read the rules. Plain white background (of course, "back view" might be some artistic term I don't know =S). And to be honest it looks steel/??? (torn between grass and dragon); also could double as an Electrike evolution.

Gnarly ass dragon

Looks like an electric/rock Rampardos thing to be honest (the symbols on its belly definitely point me towards rock, like ruin walls or something; the jagged body helps this effect). Nice drawing though.
 
My favourite was Princess', but with the bias leaning towards Somewhat Defensive, it just looks too frail...

Cartoons' is good, but it looks more like a boar than a dragon to me. I'd've seen this on Electric/Ground sooner.

Wyverii's looks more like Electric/Steel to me, but then that could just be the colouring....

Fantastic jobs everyone, otherwise! I so sorely regret that I'm garbage at drawing, or I'd try to make something myself.
 
@ Veedrock: Back View is fancy art talk for a view of the back. Also would a change to the more traditional electric colors be preferred?

That should have been so obvious. Obviously I'm art impaired. Anyways, I don't think any color change would suit the design, I was just throwing it out there. I guess the connection green = scaly = dragon could be made (which I did make ealier, though grass also popped at me like gecko or something). The head reminds me of cranidos, the body electrike =S
 
@ Veedrock: Ah, OK. I see now. I've already done it in Luxray's 'electric' hues, just for comparison. I'm gonna start posting smaller images for these minor edits.

Edit: Moved picture to a different post

The concept was basically a combination of a flashlight or spotlight and an Australian Frilled-Neck Lizard. The red ridge is a switch and the join in the tail is an extension cord type thing.
 
I love DougJustDoug's dragon, it looks like ligthing incarnate. Rotational Basis' reminds me a lot of Golden Sun's Storm Lizard, but Cartoons!' s one is the best. It seems an ancient god of thunder. And speaking of those, Queztalcoatl, the Aztec god of thunder is a winged snake (yes, I know Rayquaza already did it, but he isn't electric), so I'm surprised no one tought about it.
 
I really like that first one Yilx the dinosaur/battery look is excellent! I can't wait to see how it turns out. But with the second one...is it just me or does it look like a pre-evo for Cartoons! poke?
 
I really like that first one Yilx the dinosaur/battery look is excellent! I can't wait to see how it turns out. But with the second one...is it just me or does it look like a pre-evo for Cartoons! poke?

Well after you mentioned it, I looked at his and it really DOES look like it lol. Not really, though... it's inspired by a cloud monster from a game I played long ago actually...
 
Well after you mentioned it, I looked at his and it really DOES look like it lol. Not really, though... it's inspired by a cloud monster from a game I played long ago actually...
Yeah, I could see it was like a dragon in a cloud (sort of like Altaria, but looks totally different) and both have that eastern dragon appearance. One little thing I really like on it is the little lightning bolts on the end of it's whiskers, they're strangely cute.
 
RE: Doug. I know yours is only in sketch mode, but I'm not sure if the single talons work for the feet. Maybe a thinner double or triple talon would make it look more balanced. Aside from the fairly silly looking Golbat, no pokemon seems to have only one extremity emanating from their paws/feet.

The single talons don't really bother me. I get why they are there. True, they may be a tad bit overdone, but I don't know if I would like a double or triple any better.

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I'm not real happy with the talons on the feet and hands of my current sketch. They give the design a streamlined look, but they just don't "fit" IMO. I'm working up some other designs for the feet. Hopefully, I'll have something to post later today.

Unlike some of my past designs, I expect this current design to fluctuate a bit before I lock it in and ink it. So, don't be surprised if I post several variations of this thing over the next few days. Comments and suggestions from others are appreciated.

The only things unlikely to change are:

1) The overall serpentine look and feel of the design
2) The fins on the neck will have some kind of "lightning-esque" style to them
3) The tail "spark".

Other than that, I'm not too attached to any other elements of my design at this stage.

As I mentioned earlier, I am trying to make a design that looks "cool" and that has about the same level of design complexity as other OU dragons like Salamence, Flygon, and Lati@s. I'd like my design to sit side-by-side with those designs, and look like they are part of the same general family. I don't want to get too complex with the dragon design, which I fear would make it look like an uber (think Giratina, for example). I agree with KOA -- it's very hard to make a dragon that isn't "over-the-top". I've drawn MANY dragons in my life. But this is the first time I've had to draw one so "simple". Whether I get it right or not, it's certainly a fun artistic challenge.
 
Well it seems that my second design have received some positive feedback so I'm going to run with that for a little while and see where it takes me. After a good night's sleep I managed to wake myself early (day off, so I normally sleep until 2:30 or 3:00) so that I can color this thing. Unfortunately this makes the animation I made obsolete. If People would still prefer my original design I'll post that later.

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The colouring is nothing special just something to show the colour scheme, I'll get my girlfriend to work on it with me when she comes home from school(hope shes as enthusiastic about this design as she was with the last).


@DougJustDoug: Keep the eye's. I'm really digging the mysteriousness of them.
 
holy fuck cartoons! yours is stupendous. I'm also liking taicho's design :]

Mine should be coming around sometime soon!
 
Well, I've compiled all my pics in one post, so people can compare the colors (or scroll past more easily if they don't like them). Some opinions would be nice though.
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Of the set of four I would have to say the dark blue one, based on Luxray's colour scheme is by far the best. The other ones seem sub-par and orange is terrible. Also, just wanted to say the switch on the back is a very cool idea.
 
Thanks Gooey-K, the orange one was derived from Raichu, the teal from Flygon, and green was the color I originally planned. As you say, blue is probably the best, but I'm also quite partial to see. Taicho's colors are fantastic though.
 
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and any other CAP propaganda where a picture of the pokemon is needed.

heh. The idea of CAP propaganda amuses me for some reason.

Anyway,

@Doug: Even though it's not Dragon / Flying, something about the typing of Electric / Dragon makes me think it can fly, hey Garchomp can supposedly "fly" according to its dex and it isn't part flying!, (maybe it has to do with the fact it reminds me of the dragon Teng from chinese mythology that lived in the atmosphere and could supposedly create lighting) so I envision it almost as a bird of prey in a way. That doesn't really matter, but I think a 3-toed talon much like birds of prey could like quite cool on your dragon, but still not overly complicated. Doug's is one of my favorite's so far.

@pkmn-taicho321: I like your design as well. It's hard to explain, but I think yours looks kind of "fat". I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself well, but maybe make it a bit "thinner" looking or sleeker some how. Maybe cut the width of the stomach just a bit just a tad bit.

@Estranged: The concept of lighting-bolts attached is cool. Maybe this is a petty, irrelevant concern (and one not shared); but the base body / pose / coloring once the lighting is removed seems too similar to Garchomp to me. The dark tone, red-ish coloring on its chest, long tail. It's not bad by any means, I'm just concerned about how similar they look at a base value.

@Wyverii: I don't have a lot of commentary, but yours is also a favorite of mine.

I might comment back more later on other peoples, all of the submissions are great so far so good job guys.
 
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I based my entry off of the lucky money toad. Yes, it's a toad, and no, it shouldn't be water type. The idea is that he uses his rubber tongue to swing around his lucky token that happens to be a super conductor.

And yes, he has three legs

comments? I had a hard time with colors, but the eyes are traditionally red so I tried to stick with that. I tried yellow but it was hard to make the metal parts stick out. Purple made him too much poison-type and green only looked ok. Maybe its lips should be rubber too? I'm afraid it looks too much like lipstick...

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@pkmn-taicho321: I like your design as well. It's hard to explain, but I think yours looks kind of "fat". I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself well, but maybe make it a bit "thinner" looking or sleeker some how. Maybe cut the width of the stomach just a bit just a tad bit.

I was kinda thinking about something along this lines or dragonite, who is quite fat, especially since it looks as if somewhat defensive is going to win
 
Cartoons design is way out front for me. It has a bulky appearance, which fits the defensive style the votes are indicating this CAP will be. In that regard, I like how it appears to be based on the komodo dragon.

pkmn-taicho321 design is also nice. The only thing with it is that it appears to be part Steel-type in some way. The shape of the body reminds me of Registeel.
 
@Doug: Even though it's not Dragon / Flying, something about the typing of Electric / Dragon makes me think it can fly, hey Garchomp can supposedly "fly" according to its dex and it isn't part flying!, (maybe it has to do with the fact it reminds me of the dragon Teng from chinese mythology that lived in the atmosphere and could supposedly create lighting) so I envision it almost as a bird of prey in a way. That doesn't really matter, but I think a 3-toed talon much like birds of prey could like quite cool on your dragon, but still not overly complicated. Doug's is one of my favorite's so far.

I'll sketch some ideas with three-toed talons and see if it works.

Regarding our dragon "flying" -- I drew my sketch specifically to make it look like it could be floating above the ground (I did NOT say "levitate", since that won't be an ability on CAP 8). I'm really hoping this ends up with Magnet Rise in the movepool. Not only do I think it will be a nice competitive move for our ground-weak dragon -- but it gives us some justification for a design that looks like it could "fly". I am dead-set against giving my design any kind of wings, but I want it to look like it could slither through the air, not unlike Gyarados.

While on the topic, an interesting bit of fanboy trivia -- in the past, many people have remarked about Magnemite/Magnezone clearly floating in the air, yet being weak to Ground moves. Obviously this inconsistency was remedied in DP with the addition of the move Magnet Rise. Some fanboys have speculated as to whether Magnet Rise really connotes the ability to outright "fly", or if it simply allows Magnezone to hover slightly off the ground. I just beat the E4 in Platinum the other day, and was watching the credits roll by. If you look in the sky above the bicycling trainer, two pokemon fly high overhead. One is Drifblim, and the other is Magnezone!

SO -- Magnet Rise obviously gives the ability to fly high above the ground. I'm banking on our CAP 8 to get Magnet Rise, which is why my design looks like it is floating in the air.
 
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