New and "creative" moveset/EV spread thread. Mk. 4

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I posted a Scizor with HP variants (Tech boosted base 60s) with Swords Dance, Bullet Punch, X-Scizor and HP of choice back in the last thread or very early in this one.

Elec with Life Orb, 252 SpA EVs, neutral nature with rocks will OHKO Gyarados. Grass can OHKO Swampert (or very close to it), Ice can OHKO Salamence, etc.

It is viable, not very practical but it can help eliminate a counter your team has problems with, which, at that point, points to a bad team and this isn't the best solution.
 
Ninetails(F)@Life Orb
Abilty:Flash Fire
Nature:Timid
Ev's:252SpA/4SpD/252Spe
-Substitute/Nasty Plot
-Fire Blast
-Energy Ball
-Grudge

Eh. Not so creative but it works. Fire Blast/Energy Ball to hit specific targets and they hit pretty hard with Life Orb. The main purpose of this Ninetails is to Grudge Surf from bulky waters or Seismic Toss from Chansey to set up things like Howl Arcanine or CM Espeon.
 
Set name: Rampardosurprise! or Rampardosunnyday
Pokemon: Rampardos
Item: Heat Rock
adamant 252 atk 252 spd 4 hp
Attacks:
- Sunny Day
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

on the switch set up sunny day to help your fellow fire/grass types. works well with Cherrim in doubles. with sunny day up fire punch becomes pseudo STAB
 
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Lucario @ Life Orb/Focus Sash
Rash: 252 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 4 HP
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Vacuum Wave
- Extremespeed

The Priority-Lucario, capable of getting a great attack stat, and always striking first, hitting every type in the metagame. It's not a gimmick, it's not a "better" Lucario, just a possible set for a player wanting to try something different. Enjoy.
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Rampardoshit said:
Set name: Rampardosurprise! or Rampardosunnyday
Pokemon: Rampardos
Item: Heat Rock
adamant 252 atk 252 spd 4 hp
Attacks:
- Sunny Day
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

on the switch set up sunny day to help your fellow fire/grass types. works well with Cherrim in doubles. with sunny day up fire punch becomes pseudo STAB
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then couldnt anything that 'makes use of' the sun and is capable of learning Sunny Day use this set? I think yes.
 
Rampardoshit said:
Set name: Rampardosurprise! or Rampardosunnyday
Pokemon: Rampardos
Item: Heat Rock
adamant 252 atk 252 spd 4 hp
Attacks:
- Sunny Day
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

on the switch set up sunny day to help your fellow fire/grass types. works well with Cherrim in doubles. with sunny day up fire punch becomes pseudo STAB
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I think you ought to test your sets. If rampardos gets the chance to set up sunnyday, then why cant he set up a rock polish? There are bulkier things to set up sun and rampardos will always be used to attack instead of support. Just cause he can doesent mean he should.
 
Rampardoshit said:
almost cept its not running it off of 165 base attack =p :naughty:
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Almost cept nothing else is running off of 97/60/50 defenses and a 58 base speed. I agree with Jigo and think that many Pokemon can run a similar Sunny Day set and use it better, I believe Heatran was posted in this thread earlier and it is a good example of something that works better in the situations you described.
 
Rampardoshit said:
almost cept its not running it off of 165 base attack =p :naughty:
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Why would you chose this over bulkier pokemon such as Bronzong or faster pokemon like Azelf? Rampardos barely gets one attack off in OU. It's slow and frail, I'm sorry to say, but you're flogging a dead horse buddy.

My username/avatar is related to Dewgong yet I don't endorse it, as I know it's a sub-par pokemon doomed to NU for all of eternity.
 
Pokerade said:
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Lucario @ Life Orb/Focus Sash
Rash: 252 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 4 HP
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Vacuum Wave
- Extremespeed​
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Why would you use vaccuum wave when you could place all the sp attck evs into speed and run close combat? I would also like to know what benefits this has over a normal lucario apart from getting the easy ko on gengar (who could easily be pursuited).
 
Mountain Dewgong said:
Why would you chose this over bulkier pokemon such as Bronzong or faster pokemon like Azelf? Rampardos barely gets one attack off in OU. It's slow and frail, I'm sorry to say, but you're flogging a dead horse buddy.

My username/avatar is related to Dewgong yet I don't endorse it, as I know it's a sub-par pokemon doomed to NU for all of eternity.
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An evolution will come. Don't worry. Hydration man.. Hydration
 
Rampardoshit said:
Dont mean to mod but you guys need to back on topic :pimp:
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I don't mean to mod but

3: Note that this thread is for sets that you've actually tried at least a few times, not something that "might work". If you think something has potential, you can be bothered to use it before subjecting everyone else to it.

5: This is for competitive, serious movesets only. Don't post joke sets.

7: If another Pokemon does the set better, don't post it. This means don't post things like Toxic Stall Infernape, etc.
 
Darkerkrai said:
Blaziken makes a decent lead...

"Anti"-Lead
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Blaziken (M) @ Focus Sash / Lum Berry
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 96 Atk/236 Spd/176 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Superpower / Stone Edge
- Overheat / Stone Edge
- Vacuum Wave
- Mirror Move
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Blaziken sports an array of options when it comes to a single moveset. One move, can determine what Blaziken can and can't do. In this case, Blaziken can demolish the opposing lead, or just put them in a checkmate position. This comes from its ability to OHKO and 2HKO a wide variety of leads with Superpower, Overheat and Vacuum Wave alongside Mirror Move's rape.

Before I actually get into this set, I'll just get one simple problem out of the way: Infernape. Infernape can run Naive, 12 Spd/224 Atk/224 SAtk and attain the same stats, leaving it with a maximum of 48 EVs (12 stat points for the lazy) to place anywhere. Infernape can also run Fake Out to ensure that its Focus Sash stays safe against other Focus Sash leads as well as Close Combat, allowing it to last a bit longer.

The single difference between the two is Mirror Move, which allows Blaziken to either lay down its down entry hazards, or screw up another lead that tries to status Blaziken. In order for Blaziken to freely "reflect" a status move back at the opposing lead, the Lum Berry can be used.

Overheat and Superpower make a delicious combination, resisted by only one [uncommon] lead, Gyarados. Vacuum Wave finishes off other leads that either rely on a Focus Sash themselves, or have been withered down to a slither of HP. Stone Edge can be used over either STAB if Gyarados and Salamence continue to be a problem.

When using Blaziken, one should keep in mind that after its Focus Sash is used up, it's death fodder. This set screams, "hey salamence, hey gyarados! come and get me!", so having a Pokemon that can effectively switch in to the two (Porygon2 >_>) is recommended when using this set. It's always nice to keep a Pokemon that can be destructive, yet difficult to switch in such as Azelf, Ditto (yep, he needs love), or Smeargle handy on your team.

I've tested this set multiple times with success on my Level 0 account
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Eh?

@The Rampardos set- Seriously, how is Rampardos going to get in, setup Sunny Day and actually benefit from it before it dies?
 
Darkerkrai said:
Eh?

@The Rampardos set- Seriously, how is Rampardos going to get in, setup Sunny Day and actually benefit from it before it dies?
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Well I think the Blaziken lead could work because besides Gyara the only real lead I could really see as a problem is with Hippowdon who could just EQ you and brake the sash with the sandstorm it creates unless Overheat has enough power to OHKO it but I doubt it. Looks very interesting, I think it could work.

Rampardoshit said:
I'll post your mom on my mantel after i cut her up hows that for modding?
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Didn't your last post answer your question?
 
Gimmick, but it has decent surprise value.

Scizor @ Liechi Berry
Swarm

252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe

Substitute
Baton Pass
Agility
X-Scissor

Plays identically to Sub-Petaya Empoleon. Swarm, Liechi and STAB (and Scissor's higher attack) give X-Scissor a lot of bite. Unlike Empoleon, this set *wants* something to come in and wall it, as it allows you to Baton Pass to your real sweeper (something like Lucario, Gyarados, Salamence, anything). I tried it with those three and Scizor on the same team, choosing the best sweeper for the occasion. Usually, I weakened the opponent's team with Lucario, set-up Scizor, let it be walled, then went to Mence.
 
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Uxie @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 244 HP/188 Def/76 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Trick
- U-turn
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic/Stealth Rock

Scarf Uxie. Little guy actually has higher speed than mesprit (base 95/80.) 244 hp is for the 352 lefties threshold, 76 speed EVs hits 245, outspeeding most gyarados. The rest goes in defense. Psychic can counter infernape and gengar, but uxie can also set up rocks if you need them. 377 def still retains uxie's bulk, and lets him function as a wall after tricking his scarf.
 
I really like that Blaziken lead. Here's something I've been poking around with in NU - mostly because a friend told me to make it work, as he refuses to NOT use Mightyena:

"Mini-Mewtwo"
Jolly Mightyena @ Choice Scarf; 252Atk/252Spd/4HP
Me First
Crunch/Sucker Punch
Ice Fang
Thunder Fang

The offensive moves are weak, but he really doesn't have that many options. I mostly use Crunch over Sucker Punch because he's already running some silliness with Me First, but SP is definitely a solid option. You could really drop any of the moves I'm using for Sucker Punch, though Me First is the focus of the set.

This is a very close analogue to the Me First/Selfdestruct/Thunder/Ice Beam (or Aura Sphere) Scarf Mewtwo that sees only occasional play in Ubers (but I've found it works well), except in NU. It plays the same way: revenge kill, revenge kill, revenge kill.

For abilities, either works. Intimidate means you can switch in on resisted physical hits once or twice, Quick Feet means you can become something of a status absorber, especially if toxic spikes are up.

Unlike Mewtwo, Me First doesn't catch any obvious counters, but your movepool sucks anyway, and remember how many random things run Superpower to hit, well, you, many of them Normal types weak to it being thrown back in their face for an easy OHKO.

Yeah, the set's a bit of a stretch, and it's alluded to in the analysis, but it's a decent concept for a pokemon that's not very good. Mightyena lovers enjoy - that's the only reason I made it, really. Also, there's nothing that does this better in NU on the physical side. Furret's faster, but Mightyena's got bulk(!) and Intimidate backing it up. Xatu lacks the ability to switch in on pretty much anything not called Earthquake, whereas Intimidate/Quick Feet give Mightyena some more flexibility.
 
Alpha/Omega said:
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Uxie @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 244 HP/188 Def/76 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Trick
- U-turn
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic/Stealth Rock

Scarf Uxie. Little guy actually has higher speed than mesprit (base 95/80.) 244 hp is for the 352 lefties threshold, 76 speed EVs hits 245, outspeeding most gyarados. The rest goes in defense. Psychic can counter infernape and gengar, but uxie can also set up rocks if you need them. 377 def still retains uxie's bulk, and lets him function as a wall after tricking his scarf.
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...how is this NOT in the analysis?! I've been using this set pretty much since Platinum came out! Different EVs admittedly, because I was playing it in a Format-2 league, but same concept, and this proves it effective in OU as well. I believe I was running Yawn over Thunderbolt, though.
 
Kittymew said:
"Mini-Mewtwo"
Jolly Mightyena @ Choice Scarf; 252Atk/252Spd/4HP
Me First
Crunch/Sucker Punch
Ice Fang
Thunder Fang
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I like the concept, I've been messing around with moves like Me First, Mirror Move, and Assist lately. One question: why not Raticate? Only 9 fewer base speed, and quite a bit faster (unless you're running Quick Feet, which, IMO, is overkill).
 
Alpha/Omega said:
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Uxie @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 244 HP/188 Def/76 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Trick
- U-turn
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic/Stealth Rock

Scarf Uxie. Little guy actually has higher speed than mesprit (base 95/80.) 244 hp is for the 352 lefties threshold, 76 speed EVs hits 245, outspeeding most gyarados. The rest goes in defense. Psychic can counter infernape and gengar, but uxie can also set up rocks if you need them. 377 def still retains uxie's bulk, and lets him function as a wall after tricking his scarf.
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It's one of the most common leads in UU, with Tbolt slashed with SR instead of Psychic. It's hardly "new" but it is damn hard to stop and very, very annoying.
 
Charizard (M) @ Life orb
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Blast Burn
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
- Air Slash

Similar to SpcsZard from analysis, but different aswell.

I use modest nature for power and because speed tie with 100 base pokemon+nature isn't a good scenario either. This charizard does like 45% to blissey with focus blast , that means with some help from the teammates and luck you can 2HKO bliss.

Blast burn is there for tight decitions, for example I once was in a 1 vs 1 vs a suicune, it didn't had calm mind but I was with blaze boost. With FB of course I could't kill suicune but I used Blast burn and boom! 50% to suicune and I won the battle. It's an awesome and unexpected finisher. This charizard was the star of my mono fire competitive team, until I erased it xD (The entire team)
 
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