Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Efemera said:
Does anyone know why DPPt sometimes just refuses to hit certain frames when hatching eggs? For instance, say my target frame is 12. I'll set the time up and reset a few times, and get the correct coin flips, and see that I landed on frame 6 (this number isn't consistent either, I've found initial frames ranging from 3-12). I'll then reset, flip the journal page 3 times, and land on 13 3-4 times before giving up. When I try flipping twice, I'll get frame 10, and when I try flipping 4 times, I'll get frame 14. The only frame I can't hit is 12. It happens that more often than not, the only frame I can't hit is the one I want.

I'm really confused here.
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Calibrating for a consistent frame is probably the most ANNOYING thing when it comes to RNG abuse.
I would suggest you just completely start over by saving again, and then re-calibrating for a consistent frame(try doing this 4-5 times because if you think that you're on the right frame when you're actually not, it can waste a lot of time in the long run).
 
Ericcc said:
Let's just say you DIDN'T have an external clock.
Hit continue on the start screen, and input the time that you see on your in-game poketch, #1).

If you're inputting the time for an external clock, when in reality it's, for example, 5 minutes ahead of your in-game clock, then of course it's not going to find the correct seed.

Good luck with your RNG abuse! :-D
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Hmm, I tried that as well, yet it still showed up with "No reasonable initial seed can be found. Please check you DATE and TIME", though I'm really sure that my date and time are correct.
 
Ericcc said:
Calibrating for a consistent frame is probably the most ANNOYING thing when it comes to RNG abuse.
I would suggest you just completely start over by saving again, and then re-calibrating for a consistent frame(try doing this 4-5 times because if you think that you're on the right frame when you're actually not, it can waste a lot of time in the long run).
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Okay, thanks, I'll try that =)
 
SilentVerse said:
Hmm, I tried that as well, yet it still showed up with "No reasonable initial seed can be found. Please check you DATE and TIME", though I'm really sure that my date and time are correct.
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Well, I'm pretty sure this is just some random/ obvious mistake you're making, xD
Check EVERYTHING.


Then again, if you're inputting the stats of a Pokemon rather than the exact IV's, then it just might be a matter of catching a higher level Pokemon, since a level 50 or below Pokemon won't give you an accurate range of IV's.

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Efemera -
Yea, don't be discouraged though, since getting a good frame to work with is honestly, in my opinion, completely random in the first place. Starting over and saving again and again for a good frame is a normal part of RNG abuse. Good luck! :-)
 
Ericcc said:
Well, I'm pretty sure this is just some random/ obvious mistake you're making, xD
Check EVERYTHING.


Then again, if you're inputting the stats of a Pokemon rather than the exact IV's, then it just might be a matter of catching a higher level Pokemon, since a level 50 or below Pokemon won't give you an accurate range of IV's.
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Alright, I'll try that again tomorrow, since I need to go sleep now. Hopefully I'm more alert and I'll be able to find out if I make an obvious mistake.
 
Ericcc said:
Well, I'm pretty sure this is just some random/ obvious mistake you're making, xD
Check EVERYTHING.


Then again, if you're inputting the stats of a Pokemon rather than the exact IV's, then it just might be a matter of catching a higher level Pokemon, since a level 50 or below Pokemon won't give you an accurate range of IV's.
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It gives a different message for that though.

Are you using the date of the DS, which aside from the starting screen can be found with the date caught of the pokemon you're calibrating on.
 
how does one get a shiny egg PID without having to flip the coin, or tap the happiness app like 5,000 times? Or do I just have to bite the bullet, turn on a good movie, and flip that coin?
 
Cshadow said:
Does all of Emerald's RNG rules apply to Pokemon XD: Gale Of Darkness? What method would I be catching the pokemon with exactly?
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no you can't use emerald's methods of manipulating the RNG for pokemon XD: gale of darkness. At the moment XD's RNG hasn't been cracked
 
I'm trying to catch a magikarp, and keep getting the wrong one, and it's the same one every time no matter what I do, on frame 219.
My frame is 217, so, since I'm fishing with no runners, I do 213 advances (106 flips and 128 steps with 1 poke in my party)
I did that twice, and both times got frame 219, so the next time I did one less journal flip and got the same magikarp again, what's going on?
 
The_GAME said:
I'm trying to catch a magikarp, and keep getting the wrong one, and it's the same one every time no matter what I do, on frame 219.
My frame is 217, so, since I'm fishing with no runners, I do 213 advances (106 flips and 128 steps with 1 poke in my party)
I did that twice, and both times got frame 219, so the next time I did one less journal flip and got the same magikarp again, what's going on?
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Are you 100% sure that you're counting right?

And damn your name. I lost.
 
Yes, like I've said, I've hit this delay 3 times, done what's SUPPOSED to be right twice, then 1 less the next time.

And I bet I lose way more than you ;)
 
I ahve a question about RNGing using chaining, in the guide it says
" - Bring a Syncher and a Flyer only! Or add 1 extra pokemon only."

What would the purpose of this be?
 
The_GAME said:
I ahve a question about RNGing using chaining, in the guide it says
" - Bring a Syncher and a Flyer only! Or add 1 extra pokemon only."

What would the purpose of this be?
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its in case you trip the 128 steps counter while walking to the patches so you don;t make too many advancements and get an actual frame higher than your target frame
 
I read that a Ruby with a runned down internal battery will function a lot like emerald as far as the RNG is concerned. Now.. I want to get a shiny starter in pokemon ruby.. should i catch a few pokemon then transfer them using the pal park on another game to get the SID? Or should i focus on the trainer ID?

Has anyone checked this out more than I've seen?
 
Even I right click it, i won't select :/

Wrong word, I mean can't not can O.O

I'll try to copy the seed.

EDIT: 1743 happiness app. double taps?! are you kidding me?! ;(
 
jErry07 said:
Even I right click it, i won't select :/

Wrong word, I mean can't not can O.O

I'll try to copy the seed.

EDIT: 1743 happiness app. double taps?! are you kidding me?! ;(
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If i were you I'd find someone with a flashcart who can use pokesav or something like that and have them trade you a foreign flagged pokemon. I got one unknowingly from the GTS a while back and thats what I've been using.

I doubt I've gotten higher than 220 taps.. and if you space them out and really take care in doing them.. its not a big problem.

Edit : I've been exhausting my area looking for a decent copy of emerald.. it seems that if the pawn shops don't have it i'll have to shell out 29.99 at gamestop for a used copy. It doesn't seem too fair to me.. but it is very rare/popular. I wish someone would help me crack the code on my battery dead Ruby.
 
I have a couple of questions:
1) If I already have roamers released will the RNG be advanced upon loading?
2) When opening the Journal will the RNG be advanced if the opening page has a Defeated thing on?

Cheers guys. (:
 
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