I have seen someone try double edge once but that's it none of these I have ever seen on a kangaskan except double edge
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Volcarona is interesting in that it can function in rain because of hurricane, as nothing really want to get slammed by that and most rock types won't want to switch into rain anyway. But I feel magnazone will make your team well rounded as you have a fairy/steel killer and a good wall. Tornadus or thunderous would be good as a 6th slot as they can put pressure on the opposing team and will hit hard or spread t-wave around.
edit* Of course I don't know if this round of VGC is only allowing KB or not, if so than you would need something else instead of the genies, so you would need a substitute that preforms a similar function without leaving your team vulnerable to a particular type.
So someone agrees with my earlier post in that case here's another question for your team which fills the final slot better for the team tornadus or thundurus?
You just listed a ton of stuff that's not VGC legal, and half the point of Dry Skin Heliolisk is to spam Surfs with impunity. Spinning is also useless in Doubles most of the time.
Retun is more useful than Double Edge and unless you plan on running Sub, which isn't nearly as useful in doubles IMO, FP is pretty terrible. I have seen Circle throw, but I can't say I really think it's worth it.
The better question is does the VGC you are entering only allow KB pokemon? Zapdos may be able to fill these duties as well, as because its a flying you won't have two ground weaknesses on your team if you go with a magnazone.
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Just ran those into the Showdown Pokemon calculator
+2 252+ SpA Vivillon Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Blissey: 196-232 (27.4 - 32.4%) -- 68.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Volcarona Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Blissey: 173-204 (24.2 - 28.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Vivillon Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Blissey: 196-232 (27.4 - 32.4%) -- 68.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Volcarona Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Blissey: 173-204 (24.2 - 28.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Yeah, because it gets STAB, but Volcarona is still stronger in general. Too bad Giga drain is a tutor though.
Ok jeez I'm sorry that I did not know the rules my goodness
Good luck getting viv to 2 quiver dances it has 80/50/50 in regards to Hp and defenses volc on the other hand has 85/65/105 and is faster as well. It don't matter if viv hits harder, its getting it to the point where it can set up fast.
VGC only accepts KB Pokemon and Pokemon only in the Kalos Dex. So KB Zapdos is acceptable.
no.
they could all have some very specific strategy they could adhere to (focus punch with sub or ragepowder/follow me), hammer arm with trick room, double-edge with something with heal pulse maybe, but kanga needs no support to wreck in the standard set, power-up punch is a much better fighting move with the built-in SD, return still does a truckload of damage with much more longevity, and lol circle throw. kanga has much better things to be doing than phazing stuff.
also, if one decides to use circle throw, i suppose it should be tested if it actually can hit twice or switches the pokemon on the first hit and ends.
Not only that it's fire which counters grass even though fire won't do anything in rain but still hurricane is strong and volcarona has better bulk also zapdos would be better and yeah I'm sorry for the person who got upset that I did not know the rules so yeah use zapdos over heliolisk or teach heliolisk surf
I suppose there is sleep powder but vivillion is not going to like getting hit if it misses. Also thats why the OP said VGC, when I originally posted I was thinking of the inverse battle spot that allows all dex pokemon.
Yeah 75 sleep powder forgot to mention that can really be a bugger the only good sleep pokemon I've used in double battles and this is a big choice in words its amoonguss
@pkmn-taicho321 For your team, use Gothitelle with Shadow Tag, plus Perish Song should be used over Pain Split on Gengar. Maybe take a look at this.
vivillon and volcarona both 4x resist grass, and flying, fire, and bug all hit grass for SE.
if any distinction should be made, it should be that flying is the only one of the three that hits m-venu for SE while fire and bug are netural, and fire hits ferrothorn 4x SE (so 2x in rain) while bug and flying are neutral
as for 75% accuracy sleep powder, vivillon can have compoundeyes which makes it 100%
volcarona has a lot more bulk and is less risky since they're both just as susceptible to stealth rock damage, but vivillon isn't completely useless
Yes that's true but this is a double battle vivillon will get smashed really hard by anything...
Oh that's a really cool team.
Vivillon is viable still but as I said I feel volcorona has a better chance to set up QD even if vivillion hits harder after a QD. Really its what fits the best for the OP, probably they can go with vivillion if they have a magnazone with magnet pull to take care of steels.
Alright here's a potentially silly question: If one breeds a Chansey with Seismic Toss with a Ditto, the offspring will most likely inheret the move am I correct?
Volcarona's a hell of a lot scarier if you lose Rain to Sun or Sand, just sayin'. Since it can actually kill something without Hurricane. And tank a Special move while using QD. And that nice STAB Heat Wave. And Fiery Dance.
In rain, yeah, Vivillion is probably doing better since it lacks a handicap, and has a much better array of abilities than Volcarona. Shield Dust also lets you dodge a flinch rom Fake Out, that's noteworthy imo. I never use Rain, I've been all Drought since 2011, but I have used Volcarona. :P
Chansey would get any Egg moves the Chansey knows, yes.
In rain, yeah, Vivillion is probably doing better since it lacks a handicap, and has a much better array of abilities than Volcarona. Shield Dust also lets you dodge a flinch rom Fake Out, that's noteworthy imo. I never use Rain, I've been all Drought since 2011, but I have used Volcarona. :P
Chansey would get any Egg moves the Chansey knows, yes.
Good, that saves me SO MUCH chain breeding.
So, I have some flawless event legendaries and a shiny chandelure that I got in trades quite some time ago(last year or earlier). They passed through the Pokemon transporter and bank, and they look pretty legit, but I'm thinking they MIGHT have been obtained with non-regular play methods. They could have just been RNG's, but I'm not sure. How can I figure out for sure? None of them have this "premiere ribbon" that I have heard about, but a couple have a "classic ribbon".
I was told that the rayquaza, meloetta and victini I recieved were clones, but clones don't really bother me.
I have been tempted to wonder trade them away or release them for fear that they may be hacked and taint my game or something...I know nothing will probably happen, but I'm paranoid of my save data getting corrupted.
I was told that the rayquaza, meloetta and victini I recieved were clones, but clones don't really bother me.
I have been tempted to wonder trade them away or release them for fear that they may be hacked and taint my game or something...I know nothing will probably happen, but I'm paranoid of my save data getting corrupted.
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