Well i think it basically is OHKO'ed by Rhyperior...Oh yes and its 71 base speed...
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dinotrek27 Tyrantrum is low on the viability scale due to many common weaknesses, low Special Defense, and a lackluster Speed stat that still lets most Choice Scarf users outpace it after a boost (whether it be from Scarf or DD) Tyrantrum also doesn't have Rock Head released yet, which, when it is, will surely cause it to move up due to a recoiless STAB Head Smash. (BW Aggron taught us all about this) Until then though, Tyrantrum has a hard time standing out as there are generally better setup sweepers, better Stealth Rock setters, better Choice Scarf users, and better Sticky Web abusers in the tier right now.
Yellow Cheese while it's true that Band/mixed Emboar won't outspeed many offensive Pokemon, keep in mind that these sets are typically used as wallbreakers, and as such, generally only run enough Speed to outpace most defensive walls. Sticky Web obviously makes these sets more dangerous as it then outpaces quite a few offensive threats as well, just like any other wallbreaker with Web support. It also has a Choice Scarf set to RK shit like Durant, Virizion, Sceptile, and Specs Yanmega, all of which it at least has decent success at switching in against. Of course, such a set has a hard time with Swellow and Jolteon outspeeding it, but Emboar has enough to stay at A- imo.
As for Rhyperior, it has a hard time dealing with what it's supposed to. Most Pokemon it wants to switch-in on have coverage for it (Jolteon HP Water, Heliolisk Grass Knot, Druddigon Sheer Force Iron Tail, Delphox Grass Knot) and it really does not like Knock Off. By running heavy Special Defense investment (like most Rocks sets do) you lose a fair bit of firepower, thus making it easier for the likes of Virizion and Shuckle to set up on it. If you go for the higher firepower to punish these threats more (typically a Band set) then Rhyperior folds to a lot more neutral special attacks. Rhyperior is a great Pokemon, but the tier has been able to adjust to it quite nicely and it has a hard time doing everything it wants to do in a single set. I think it works for A/A+.
Going to hold off on any opinion of Sharpedo. While it was certainly one of the go-to threats for Spikes Offense teams, Froslass has gotten the boot. Not sure if this will be enough to keep Sharpedo from S rank or not, (it's certainly good enough now) but I think we should wait to move it until after we see how it does post-Froslass.
Yellow Cheese while it's true that Band/mixed Emboar won't outspeed many offensive Pokemon, keep in mind that these sets are typically used as wallbreakers, and as such, generally only run enough Speed to outpace most defensive walls. Sticky Web obviously makes these sets more dangerous as it then outpaces quite a few offensive threats as well, just like any other wallbreaker with Web support. It also has a Choice Scarf set to RK shit like Durant, Virizion, Sceptile, and Specs Yanmega, all of which it at least has decent success at switching in against. Of course, such a set has a hard time with Swellow and Jolteon outspeeding it, but Emboar has enough to stay at A- imo.
As for Rhyperior, it has a hard time dealing with what it's supposed to. Most Pokemon it wants to switch-in on have coverage for it (Jolteon HP Water, Heliolisk Grass Knot, Druddigon Sheer Force Iron Tail, Delphox Grass Knot) and it really does not like Knock Off. By running heavy Special Defense investment (like most Rocks sets do) you lose a fair bit of firepower, thus making it easier for the likes of Virizion and Shuckle to set up on it. If you go for the higher firepower to punish these threats more (typically a Band set) then Rhyperior folds to a lot more neutral special attacks. Rhyperior is a great Pokemon, but the tier has been able to adjust to it quite nicely and it has a hard time doing everything it wants to do in a single set. I think it works for A/A+.
Going to hold off on any opinion of Sharpedo. While it was certainly one of the go-to threats for Spikes Offense teams, Froslass has gotten the boot. Not sure if this will be enough to keep Sharpedo from S rank or not, (it's certainly good enough now) but I think we should wait to move it until after we see how it does post-Froslass.
Shark was S rank for me previously, but I think it might take a hit in viability due to froslass getting banned so I wouldn't be so quick to move it up. Also rhyp is S rank guys, it is by a long shot the most reliable sr setter and it is stronk af. I would write more on it but I'm on my phone so that will happen later.
SInce it keeps coming up for no real reason once we make another decision of Claydol can we put in Conclusion Reached/Blacklist? I understand people have legitimate claim for it to move up but we've had at least 5 separate discussions on it and we just need to not
Because we keep bringing up about why we keep bringing it up, so it is consequentially brought up again.
Alright, gonna make some updates now. plz stop claydol though (almost as bad as the OU viability donphan .__.). C- is the highest i'd move it to personally, might do that later.
Not gonna make changes to S rank this update, considering an important Pokemon just got removed from the metagame and that might change things up a bit and make a previously worthy mon not worthy and vice versa.
I'd like more discussion on mega abomasnow, xatu, and pangoro (as well as delphox and rhyperior in the postlass meta ofc).
Froslass removed cause ban
Gurdurr moved up from C+ to B-
Doublade moved up to A (might go A+ though)
Moltres moved up to A+
Mismagius moved up to A-
Gurdurr moved up from C+ to B-
Doublade moved up to A (might go A+ though)
Moltres moved up to A+
Mismagius moved up to A-
Not gonna make changes to S rank this update, considering an important Pokemon just got removed from the metagame and that might change things up a bit and make a previously worthy mon not worthy and vice versa.
I'd like more discussion on mega abomasnow, xatu, and pangoro (as well as delphox and rhyperior in the postlass meta ofc).
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be much better if the E Rank and the pokemon were removed completely?
Sure, they are in RU by usage but the viability ranking should encourage players to use centain pokemon and seeing something like Hitmonchan on the list (as low it might be on the list) could still make people want to use it.
That's at least how it is done in OU to discourage the usage of Vaporeon.
Sure, they are in RU by usage but the viability ranking should encourage players to use centain pokemon and seeing something like Hitmonchan on the list (as low it might be on the list) could still make people want to use it.
That's at least how it is done in OU to discourage the usage of Vaporeon.
I think Doublade should go to the A+ rank. I mean, with a +4 attack, it can sweep a lot of Pokemon. Not only that, with Eviolite it can take a lot of damage as well especially from knock off seeing that it is so popular in the RU tier.
Moltres however can easily be countered with many Pokemon. Pokemon include Cinccino (Rock Blast), Rhyperior with its rock type moves. Just to name 2. This Pokemon in my opinion should go to the A, or A- Rank.
Rhyperior I still believe is a great Pokemon. With a base defense stat of 130, and not to mention an even more impressive 140 base attack stat, this Pokemon is waiting for its turn in battle to own others, while being a great tank. I believe it deserves to stay in the S rank.
Also in the metagame without Froslass, the main Pokemon that set up hazards efficiently is Shuckle. With the versatility of learning Sticky Web, a hazard that is so devastating to teams Shuckle deserves to be in the S rank. Without another Pokemon that can set up hazards as quickly as Shuckle, I think Shuckle may be a bit overpowered in this tier. Shuckle can also learn Encore, which no doubt annoys a lot of teams, as some teams immediately start setting up, or they start setting up hazards.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, Druddigon shouldn't be in this tier. It is too OP. Thats all I have to say.
Moltres however can easily be countered with many Pokemon. Pokemon include Cinccino (Rock Blast), Rhyperior with its rock type moves. Just to name 2. This Pokemon in my opinion should go to the A, or A- Rank.
Rhyperior I still believe is a great Pokemon. With a base defense stat of 130, and not to mention an even more impressive 140 base attack stat, this Pokemon is waiting for its turn in battle to own others, while being a great tank. I believe it deserves to stay in the S rank.
Also in the metagame without Froslass, the main Pokemon that set up hazards efficiently is Shuckle. With the versatility of learning Sticky Web, a hazard that is so devastating to teams Shuckle deserves to be in the S rank. Without another Pokemon that can set up hazards as quickly as Shuckle, I think Shuckle may be a bit overpowered in this tier. Shuckle can also learn Encore, which no doubt annoys a lot of teams, as some teams immediately start setting up, or they start setting up hazards.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, Druddigon shouldn't be in this tier. It is too OP. Thats all I have to say.
Every Moltres except for maybe scarf/specs (which are kind of outclassed by other scarfers) carry HP Grass. And even SpD Rhyperior can't switch into a Fire Blast followed by an HP Grass without taking loads of damage or getting KO'd (26.9 - 31.7% + 59.2 - 70%). Cinncino can revenge kill Moltres yes, but that's the only thing it can do. It also can't revenge kill Flame Charge or Agility Moltres which are existing sets lol. It's spot in A+ is justified. It's a terrifying wallbreaker capable of breaking most defensive cores, and a great abuser of Sticky Web, with amazing dual STAB and respectable 90/90/85 are respectable defenses. The only Pokemon that can safely switch in are AV Slowking and SpD Jellicent, and Alomomola needs to have Waterfall to beat it.
I agree. Rhyperior is one of the best Pokemon in RU, and it can seriously switch in on a lot of things, reliably set up SR, and then nuke things with its massive attack. A STAB Earthquake coming off base 140 attack is something to fear. I can see why people would want it to drop to A+ though, as its weak to quite a bunch of things.
Exactly why it's S-rank.
Don't forget that, whilst Moltres is often used offensively, it's no slouch defensively either and it can bring you a win easily. A defensive SubRoost set is good, being a really good staller with Sub/Roost/Flamethrower/Toxic combined with it's normally mediocre ability, Pressure. Whilst it's typing leaves it with a 4x weakness to rocks which sucks, it is actually a decent defensive typing, resisting Bug, Grass, Fairy, Fighting and being immune to Ground.
Moltres is really versatily and dangerous so A+ is a good placement
Moltres is really versatily and dangerous so A+ is a good placement
The entire reason they're on the list is to encourage players not to use them. If someone sees they're in E rank (especially since it's called "bad pkmn rank"), they would be reluctant to use them, whereas if they weren't on the rankings at all, people would just assume that the Pokemon in question were accidentally removed or something and have no idea how bad they are. (Also Hitmonchan is probably worse in RU than Vaporeon is in OU lol)
Molk edit: confirming that hitmonchan is worse in RU than vaporeon is in OU, also confirming the only reason people are using it at all is because of blametruth
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Forgive me, but other than being outclassed as all hell by Rhyperior, why is Regirock D? It doesn't seem like that bad a Pokemon in this meta. I mean, it can provide decent support in SR and Thunder Wave, the latter of which Rhyperior can't provide, can run a decent Tank set with a combination of Assault Vest and Drain Punch, a move Rhyperior somehow can't learn, and it handles a lot of the shit Rhyperior handles similarly well while having technically stronger overall bulk. 9 times out of 10 I would use Rhyperior over him, but he does have some advantages, and I wouldn't say he's godawful in the meta. I would probably put him at C rank instead, but if I'm missing something important, feel free to call me out.
Dont forget the lack of 4x weaknessess
Regirock isn't strictly bad, as in there's nothing exactly wrong with Regirock itself, but it doesn't really have a niche right now with Rhyperior around. Rhyperior is in general much more useful than Regirock 99% of the time, since it has an Electric immunity which allows it to switch in on Volt Switch for pretty much free and can punish Specs variants of Jolteon and Heliolisk for clicking the wrong move. Rhyperior is also much stronger than Regirock and has Solid Rock, and also has Dragon Tail and Megahorn. Rhyperior can also afford to go offensive with either a Choice Band or Rock Polish, and thus many teams will prefer Rhyperior over Regirock, and the latter doesn't really have that many advantages.
So basically, the reason Regirock is D is because it's not horrible as in incredibly flawed, but it lacks a real niche in the metagame, and only has very select few advantages over Rhyperior that only warrant its use on a select few teams.
So basically, the reason Regirock is D is because it's not horrible as in incredibly flawed, but it lacks a real niche in the metagame, and only has very select few advantages over Rhyperior that only warrant its use on a select few teams.
Yeah, that sounds pretty accurate to what I thought of him. What you said sounds to me more like the definition of C Rank:
"Reserved for Pokemon who can be effective given the right support, but either have crippling flaws that prevent them from consistently executing their strategy or are completely eclipsed by a Pokemon in the above ranks."
...than it does D rank:
"Reserved for Pokemon who have a small niche in the current metagame, but have very noticeable flaws that make them more trouble than they're worth the majority of the time."
Regirock is generally not more trouble that its worth; if you slot it on a team, it can generally do its job of setting up Rocks and providing T-Wave support reasonably well, and its A-V set is a better check to Pokemon such as Delphox and Heliolisk due to better special bulk, no 4x grass and Water weaknesses, (even after Solid Rock, Regirock still takes less damage,) and Drain Punch for longevity. While it is true that 9 times out of 10 I would be saying "why aren't I using Rhyperior?" when using it, it isn't a Florges-Sylveon situation; it does have advantages, and since it isn't usually deadweight on a team, C rank seems more fitting to me. Of course, it isn't that important a distinction, so sorry for discussing it so much, it just seemed a bit odd to me.
I know this thread hasn't been the most active lately (mostly waiting on Froslass to finally be banned on the server and the next suspect test to start, trust me, the next NP thread is going to be coming soon :)). But i'm gonna make some updates (well, one).
Update: Weezing up from B- rank to B rank.
I feel like B+ rank is a bit too much for Weezing, but you have to admit it has a pretty solid niche in the current metagame. It checks all kinds of important Pokemon including Hitmonlee, Rhyperior, Escavalier, Physical Sharpedo, Durant, Doublade, Virizion, physical Zoroark, Cobalion, and More (pretty much every Fighting-type without Psychic STAB or Mold Breaker EQ loses to this lol). On top of this it has a pretty solid support movepool including things such as Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Clear Smog/Haze, and Toxic Spikes to pull its weight outside of simply switching in on and walling things, and to help it seperate itself from Pokemon that can wall a similar pool of Pokemon, such as Gligar. (Toxic Spikes in particular is really nice, especially considering that Weezing is often used on stall teams that benefit from that residual damage). Definitely worth the small ranking buff imo. If anyone here wants to see more reasoning, users: Hot N Cold and Meru have experience with it.
I'm gonna wait a little bit on Regirock.
So, anyone else have any suggestions? Especially now that Froslass is finally banned on the server and we can get a glimpse of the metagame without it?
EDIT: also i'd like to see some discussion on the position of ACCELGOR now that Froslass is banned. It can sorta take the niche that Froslass had as a fast suicide lead spiker that can stop spinning/defogging, just....not quite as well. Keep in mind that Final Gambit stops the opponent from using Rapid Spin or Defog for one turn and lets you switch something in for free, and that Spikes+Encore is a legal combination on Accelgor now.
Update: Weezing up from B- rank to B rank.
I feel like B+ rank is a bit too much for Weezing, but you have to admit it has a pretty solid niche in the current metagame. It checks all kinds of important Pokemon including Hitmonlee, Rhyperior, Escavalier, Physical Sharpedo, Durant, Doublade, Virizion, physical Zoroark, Cobalion, and More (pretty much every Fighting-type without Psychic STAB or Mold Breaker EQ loses to this lol). On top of this it has a pretty solid support movepool including things such as Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split, Clear Smog/Haze, and Toxic Spikes to pull its weight outside of simply switching in on and walling things, and to help it seperate itself from Pokemon that can wall a similar pool of Pokemon, such as Gligar. (Toxic Spikes in particular is really nice, especially considering that Weezing is often used on stall teams that benefit from that residual damage). Definitely worth the small ranking buff imo. If anyone here wants to see more reasoning, users: Hot N Cold and Meru have experience with it.
I'm gonna wait a little bit on Regirock.
So, anyone else have any suggestions? Especially now that Froslass is finally banned on the server and we can get a glimpse of the metagame without it?
EDIT: also i'd like to see some discussion on the position of ACCELGOR now that Froslass is banned. It can sorta take the niche that Froslass had as a fast suicide lead spiker that can stop spinning/defogging, just....not quite as well. Keep in mind that Final Gambit stops the opponent from using Rapid Spin or Defog for one turn and lets you switch something in for free, and that Spikes+Encore is a legal combination on Accelgor now.
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Cincinno from B to C+/C (probably C+)
I believe i nominated this a while back, but it got lost in a bunch of debates. Cincinno's main niche was outspeeding and killing Lass before it gets up spikes, but since it's gone it's just shit tbh
I believe i nominated this a while back, but it got lost in a bunch of debates. Cincinno's main niche was outspeeding and killing Lass before it gets up spikes, but since it's gone it's just shit tbh
Eh, I'm personally not a big fan of dropping Cinccino down. It does pretty well against offensive teams and is pretty scary for them to handle. It has decent coverage too; it struggles against Steel-types, but it hits Rhyperior hard with Bullet Seed, Moltres with Rock Blast, etc. Cinccino can also break Subs, which is cool, and it also makes for a nice lead against Shuckle teams, limiting Shuckle to only one entry hazard since it 2HKO's. There's also the mighty Sing Cinccino which cripples Doublade, which is popular on offensive teams, and from there Cinccino can pester the opposing team. It has U-turn to gain momentum or Knock Off to cripple some switch-ins, and in general has good offensive utility. Of course being frail and helpless against Steel-types sucks, but it has good offensive power, and breaking Subs and pestering the team throughout the game is nice. B is perfect for it imo, since it has issues and does need a bit of support, but it's pretty nice at providing good offensive utility for its team. That's just my opinion though so feel free to oppose.
Accelgor could be B Rank imo. It's a really fast spiker and can get up at least one layer of Spikes per game, since it's faster than virtually all of the unboosted tier. It has good utility in Final Gambit and Encore which is really nice, and makes Accelgor pretty great on offensive teams. It also packs a decent punch with Bug Buzz, and that has decent coverage with Sharpedo, Zoroark, and Reuniclus everywhere in RU atm. It's a pretty useful Pokemon for offensive teams, providing fast Spikes and in general having good utility so it should be B Rank imo, maybe B- but idk lol. Especially without Froslass around to infinitely outclass it.
Accelgor could be B Rank imo. It's a really fast spiker and can get up at least one layer of Spikes per game, since it's faster than virtually all of the unboosted tier. It has good utility in Final Gambit and Encore which is really nice, and makes Accelgor pretty great on offensive teams. It also packs a decent punch with Bug Buzz, and that has decent coverage with Sharpedo, Zoroark, and Reuniclus everywhere in RU atm. It's a pretty useful Pokemon for offensive teams, providing fast Spikes and in general having good utility so it should be B Rank imo, maybe B- but idk lol. Especially without Froslass around to infinitely outclass it.
Amoonguss for A-
- Sleep is good
- Mix defences are good
- Foul play so no set up for doublade
- Checks hitmonlee
Im just going to pop in and after some testing i fully support moving Accelgor up to somewhere in the lower B ranks (B/B-). It obviously isn't quite as good as Froslass at the whole hazard setting thing, but its definitely enough to deserve a promotion imo. Just like Froslass Accelgor has access to Spikes and an amazing Speed stat, letting it consistently set up at least one layer (and sometimes 2+ layers) of Spikes over the course of the game. Now that Accelgor has access to both Spikes and Encore on the same set, it can stop opponents from setting up on it as it sets spikes, and can possibly use the threat of a fast encore to get up extra layers of sent out in some place other than the lead slot. Accelgor might not be able to spinblock its own spikes and taunt/hit defoggers super effectively like Froslass can, but Final Gambit is the next best thing. It completely stops the opponent from spinning or defogging for a turn, does damage which might be major or minor depending on how much HP accelgor has, and most importantly gives you a free switch in after you use it, letting you go directly to your spinblocker or something to threaten the defogger in question to keep your hazards up for longer.
All in all Accelgor is a pretty solid offensive spiker in the current metagame, is quite nice at filling some of the void Froslass left (although definitely not as well for some of the reasons stated above, while a second ghost was optional on Froslass offense, its REQUIRED on accelgor offense), and since its main competition is gone, it finally has a chance to shine.
For the record i also agree with Galbia's suggestion of discussing Omastar to move up a bit as well :).
All in all Accelgor is a pretty solid offensive spiker in the current metagame, is quite nice at filling some of the void Froslass left (although definitely not as well for some of the reasons stated above, while a second ghost was optional on Froslass offense, its REQUIRED on accelgor offense), and since its main competition is gone, it finally has a chance to shine.
For the record i also agree with Galbia's suggestion of discussing Omastar to move up a bit as well :).
I haven't seen much talk about Yanmega. I think Yanmega should move up to A+. Yanmega can do consistent damage with Tinted Lens. Depending on the set of Yanmega. Yanmega can 2HKO A LOT of Pokemon. Although Yanmega is 4x weak to rocks, so thats its problem.
I was actually considering bringing up Yanmega for a possible move up to A+ myself, but never did because i'd have to double post or edit my old one with accelgor and the latter wouldn't alert you guys that i brought up anything at all :/.
Anyways, i'm legitimately considering moving Yanmega up to A+ rank atm. You gotta admit, despite even the 4x weakness to Stealth Rock and everything, Yanmega is a powerful offensive threat no matter what set its running (just like at r0 RU in BW x_x). The Speed Boost set is quite the annoyance for offensive teams and a great cleaner in general thanks to its ability to become almost impossible to revenge kill without priority in just 2 turns, especially considering that unlike Sharpedo, Yanmega 4x resists Mach Punch and actually has quite decent physical bulk to take priority with (Stealth Rock notwithstanding, but even then Yanmega can probably shrug off some weaker priority moves from around 50). Meanwhile, the Tinted Lens Choice Specs set is an incredibly powerful wallbreaker, not just because of its high Special Attack stat, but because of its Tinted Lens ability that makes resistances a complete nonfactor unless the pokemon in question is normally 4x resistant to the move Yanmega is using. Yep, thats right, if you want to wall Tinted Lens Yanmega you have to do it through pure bulk alone, and simply because of how hard it hits even bulky special walls such as Aromatisse risk a 2HKO after Stealth Rock. Because of this, Yanmega can be quite painful to defensive teams after its checks take just a *little* bit of prior damage (one common example is registeel, which lacks reliable recovery), and unlike other powerful wallbreakers such as Moltres, it can do this all with just one, perfectly accurate move in the form of Bug Buzz. Lastly, with Sticky Web being so common and relevant at the moment, Yanmega stands out as both a great weapon on AND against these kinds of teams. The Tinted Lens set becomes that much more deadly when every grounded Pokemon is getting a -1 Speed Drop (and Hitmonlee can spin for Yanyan and is almost always on good webs teams, so you dont have to worry about that), while the Speed Boost set can turn the tables on a threatening Sticky Web team and sweep it late game thanks to its immunity to Sticky Web's speed drop and Speed Boost letting it eventually outspeed most catch all revenge killers you'd find on those kinds of teams to take out similar pokemon.
All in all, Yanmega is a force to be reckoned with imo, and despite the issues that it does have, i think that a move up to A+ rank might be fitting, does anyone agree/disagree?
Anyways, i'm legitimately considering moving Yanmega up to A+ rank atm. You gotta admit, despite even the 4x weakness to Stealth Rock and everything, Yanmega is a powerful offensive threat no matter what set its running (just like at r0 RU in BW x_x). The Speed Boost set is quite the annoyance for offensive teams and a great cleaner in general thanks to its ability to become almost impossible to revenge kill without priority in just 2 turns, especially considering that unlike Sharpedo, Yanmega 4x resists Mach Punch and actually has quite decent physical bulk to take priority with (Stealth Rock notwithstanding, but even then Yanmega can probably shrug off some weaker priority moves from around 50). Meanwhile, the Tinted Lens Choice Specs set is an incredibly powerful wallbreaker, not just because of its high Special Attack stat, but because of its Tinted Lens ability that makes resistances a complete nonfactor unless the pokemon in question is normally 4x resistant to the move Yanmega is using. Yep, thats right, if you want to wall Tinted Lens Yanmega you have to do it through pure bulk alone, and simply because of how hard it hits even bulky special walls such as Aromatisse risk a 2HKO after Stealth Rock. Because of this, Yanmega can be quite painful to defensive teams after its checks take just a *little* bit of prior damage (one common example is registeel, which lacks reliable recovery), and unlike other powerful wallbreakers such as Moltres, it can do this all with just one, perfectly accurate move in the form of Bug Buzz. Lastly, with Sticky Web being so common and relevant at the moment, Yanmega stands out as both a great weapon on AND against these kinds of teams. The Tinted Lens set becomes that much more deadly when every grounded Pokemon is getting a -1 Speed Drop (and Hitmonlee can spin for Yanyan and is almost always on good webs teams, so you dont have to worry about that), while the Speed Boost set can turn the tables on a threatening Sticky Web team and sweep it late game thanks to its immunity to Sticky Web's speed drop and Speed Boost letting it eventually outspeed most catch all revenge killers you'd find on those kinds of teams to take out similar pokemon.
All in all, Yanmega is a force to be reckoned with imo, and despite the issues that it does have, i think that a move up to A+ rank might be fitting, does anyone agree/disagree?
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