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The Everything NHL Thread

Stolen from cosmonaut_koala but it applies everywhere.

We won it for Clint Reif.
We won it for Steve Montador.
We won it for Daniel Carcillo.
We won it for Stan Mikita.
We won it for Kimmo Timonen.

 
so is it too early to fire sweeney yet? because dougie hamilton for a first and two seconds is fucking highway robbery.
 
Hahahahahahahahahahaha fuck the Bruins

Love love love the Leafs draft, Marner was who I wanted and I'm a huge fan of picking up two early thirds to trade down ten spots. Toronto Belicheks yes please. Especially since guys like Kylington fell out of the first.
 
i like who the isles walked away with this first round a lot and didn't care for griffin reinhart's game much, way to go garth
 
So the Sabres, draft and trades combined, now have new toys in Ryan O'Reilly, Evander Kane, Eichel, and Lehner to play with.

That's...really nice...It's hard enough to get 1 good to great Center, but the sabres got 2 and one of them has the potential to be elite (Not to mention they ALSO have Sam Reinhart, 2014's #2 pick, who many have very high hopes of). Not to mention that Kane playing with legitimate Cs can only help him elevate his game and the Sabres get a real goalie.

If they can, in the next 2-3 year, either / or / both develop some of their enticing in house D prospects or get some help on the D line, this team is super interesting to watch, and may reach playoff + competitive stanley cup contender faster than the current favorite for that role and media darling the Leafs.
 
Does anybody actually think Leafs are going to be contenders before Sabres are? Because that's stupid.

Next season is going to be super exciting for the team, I'm finally getting Gamecenter now that I can justify it.

Now just to wait if we can snatch Sekera in FA, then we would be set.
 
Leafs aren't going to contend for at least 3 years and more likely 4-5 but we had a fantastic day yesterday, lots of high upside picks and a lot of late round steals. Start getting some of those guys through the pipeline and we'll be right on your ass. We're going to have about 12 2016 first round picks after we deal off all our guys, Auston Matthews leggo
 
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I was disappointed with the return but the realities of the market meant that this was the best we were going to get. Two highly rated prospects (behind Maata and Pouliot) and a first is pretty similar to the deal we made when we acquired him, and his age and contract should theoretically decrease his return. I'm fine with the trade from the perspective that our prospect cupboard is getting increasingly stocked and by acquiring a first we have another weapon to sue to move up or back to a lottery position in next years draft.
 
No comment on the state of the trade + results because there are more external variables here than normal.

That said, I have no idea how I resist Kessel in hockey DFS like every time the Pens play..........
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
I was disappointed with the return but the realities of the market meant that this was the best we were going to get. Two highly rated prospects (behind Maata and Pouliot) and a first is pretty similar to the deal we made when we acquired him, and his age and contract should theoretically decrease his return. I'm fine with the trade from the perspective that our prospect cupboard is getting increasingly stocked and by acquiring a first we have another weapon to sue to move up or back to a lottery position in next years draft.
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i still think a consistent 30+ goal scorer w/salary retained should've returned a lot more. tbh the toronto media shot itself in the foot by basically saying "kessel had to go," rather than keeping it lowkey and probably getting a higher return. arguably lucic got a better return than kessel, which is ridiculous since lucic isn't anywhere near the type of player kessel is.
 
Solace said:
i still think a consistent 30+ goal scorer w/salary retained should've returned a lot more. tbh the toronto media shot itself in the foot by basically saying "kessel had to go," rather than keeping it lowkey and probably getting a higher return. arguably lucic got a better return than kessel, which is ridiculous since lucic isn't anywhere near the type of player kessel is.
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I totally agree that in a vacuum he should have returned more, unfortunately his contract situation, no-movement clause, and the Toronto media limited his value.
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
I totally agree that in a vacuum he should have returned more, unfortunately his contract situation, no-movement clause, and the Toronto media limited his value.
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that's really why i hate no trade clauses, you never know what's going to happen over the course of a long contract and to be stuck with minimal returns is just.... yuck. i just don't really think he needed to be traded at all if that was the only value. i feel like more could've been gotten at the trade deadline after seeing how he performed under babcock and with teams more desperate as they gear up for the playoffs. i mean, vermette got a guaranteed first round pick + a prospect at the trade deadline, and kessel is a million times better.

even kesler, who had a no trade clause coming out of vancouver, got a better return, and kessel is definitely the better player.

it's just a disappointing trade imo, esp since kessel is one of my favorite players now going to a major rival for low return :(
 
in case anyone wasn't already aware, I was masturbating furiously from morning until night on draft day

Effin' SABRES man.
 
Shout out to the Maple Leafs for the off season entertainment at the expense of their rebuild progress
 
I don't get your comment Royalty

Didn't they do a really good job?

Shanahan had Carlyle and Nonis as his coach and GM...now has Babcock and big Lou

that alone is really good no?
 
Babs is definitely an improvement.
Pretty good draft.
Kessel trade was lackluster, but what are ya gonna do.

They were going pretty steadily, but I can't see a 72 year old stuck in the 90's helping them move into the new age. This being even more concerning because of how much power and control he had in NJ, he's going to be forced to work in a team environment with very conflicting views on how a team should be operated. I can only see it working if they put him on a very short leash as well as restricting his involvement to being solely a wingman or advisor, and then make Dubas the GM in a year or two. Just seems like an overall step back after they were making progress.

Also, is there plans to continue smogon league in the same format as last year?
 
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Royalty said:
Babs is definitely an improvement.
Pretty good draft.
Kessel trade was lackluster, but what are ya gonna do.

They were going pretty steadily, but I can't see a 72 year old stuck in the 90's helping them move into the new age. This being even more concerning because of how much power and control he had in NJ, he's going to be forced to work in a team environment with very conflicting views on how a team should be operated. I can only see it working if they put him on a very short leash as well as restricting his involvement to being solely a wingman or advisor, and then make Dubas the GM in a year or two. Just seems like an overall step back after they were making progress.

Also, is there plans to continue smogon league in the same format as last year?
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Lamoriello cited his age as the reason for leaving power in Jersey. He's on a 3 year deal. The very, very, distinct feeling here in Toronto is that Lou is here to basically be Ken Holland to Babcock, act as a sounding board for ideas and to work with the management team in an advisory capacity. He'd likely have a role in the trading process and can use his lengthy experience to have lines of conversation available that would otherwise be inaccessible. It seems very likely that he'll be grooming Dubas to take over from his at the end of his contract, that the management team will continue to be by committee, and that Lou gives us a big name to fill the GM title without sacrificing our goals. In the media interview today Lou even stated that he was fully on board with our rebuild and that Shanahan sold him on his vision. Given Shanahan's personnel moves so far I can't imagine him bringing in Lou if he thought Lou would try and run his own ship. Especially not with so many strong personalities in authority positions.
 
To the Canucks fans out there, enjoy Brandon Sutter. He's one of the hardest working players to go through the Pens in the last decade and one of the best two-way centers in the game rn imo. Don't know why we traded him away :(
 
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