Lucario and Salamence were also featured alongside Kangaskhan in the last trailer when they revealed that Megas were coming back. They probably chose Lucario because it was the first Mega we got in XY and in lore, and Kangaskhan and Salamence were the two most popular Megas in VGC this past year (and were among the Top 4 Megas in VGC15). It's just a little homage to the VGC crowd.
-
Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules.
Gen VII: Pokemon Sun and Moon Discussion MKII
- Thread starter DHR-107
- Start date
- Status
Lucario and Salamence were also featured alongside Kangaskhan in the last trailer when they revealed that Megas were coming back. They probably chose Lucario because it was the first Mega we got in XY and in lore, and Kangaskhan and Salamence were the two most popular Megas in VGC this past year (and were among the Top 4 Megas in VGC15). It's just a little homage to the VGC crowd.
I'm aware of them thinking Mega Kang and Aegislash were more powerful or used differently than the expected, but I never suspected they'd nerf. If anything, I figured they'd "solve" the issue by powercreeping Kang! lol
Ahem... Exploud.
It no longer has any sound-based signature move, but still....
Anyway, Tsareena/Amaajo has noble vibes, but somehow I don't really like it, not as much as Roserade or Lilligant. She somehow looks more like that popular school bully girl compared to the other two. Hmm....
So the age of Megamom's tyranny has ended?
By the way is Bounsweet female only, or do we have another Gardevoir on our hands? Because I actually quite like the entire line's design and lore, internet perverts be damned.
"It even turns its fearsome glare upon its own Trainer if the two of them are not fully in sync, or if its Trainer orders it to use a move that will be ineffective." "You want me to use Giga Drain on a Poison-type? Are you fuckin' casuul!?"
I still don't really know if Jangmo-o and its evolutions are based on something in specific or just samurai, but its really freaking cool. Kommo-o's legs though lulSound-type, when?
Ribombee is really cute. I like how they turned the proboscis into a fabulous scarf so that its face would still look cute.It's also a drug dealer oh god It might actually be my favourite design in this trailer. Too bad it will probably be complete garbage though. Well, I hope a lot of these Pokemon have actually usable stats, but I have a feeling they'll all feel underpowered to 'compensate' for all their unique abilities, but whatever.
I preferred Shiruvadi, since it sounded vaguely Buddhist, but whatever. If it weren't for the gigantic crest bursting out of its brain I would've liked the design a lot, but it looks kinda wonky to me.
Oh and Muk. I was wondering what they made me think of, but it reminds me of vomited up playdough. Not that I would know what that looks like. Pretty ugly, but its Muk. Do like the effect though.
PS I hate that the Pokemon aren't all next to their evolutions on the official website, it's driving me nuts.
"It even turns its fearsome glare upon its own Trainer if the two of them are not fully in sync, or if its Trainer orders it to use a move that will be ineffective." "You want me to use Giga Drain on a Poison-type? Are you fuckin' casuul!?"
I still don't really know if Jangmo-o and its evolutions are based on something in specific or just samurai, but its really freaking cool. Kommo-o's legs though lul
Ribombee is really cute. I like how they turned the proboscis into a fabulous scarf so that its face would still look cute.
I preferred Shiruvadi, since it sounded vaguely Buddhist, but whatever. If it weren't for the gigantic crest bursting out of its brain I would've liked the design a lot, but it looks kinda wonky to me.
Oh and Muk. I was wondering what they made me think of, but it reminds me of vomited up playdough. Not that I would know what that looks like. Pretty ugly, but its Muk. Do like the effect though.
PS I hate that the Pokemon aren't all next to their evolutions on the official website, it's driving me nuts.
Perhaps its like Earthquake...uses the physical stat but doesn't make contact? I mean it might take alot of power to clash those scales together...
I didn't expect a video today we sure are getting a lot of info this week and then in 4 days the Demo!!
Silvally is clearly been hinted by the official Ability names to be related in some way to Arceus as of now it's because of the Ar/KRS/Alpha system etc... (Depending on what your native language is.) Japanese trailer shows the bag when speaking about it so those are the memories (one for each type not one item for all)
After going from Type:Null to Silvally gains height and loses weight!!
6'03" -> 7’07”
265.7 lbs. -> 221.6 lbs.
Gladion holding the memories in the Trailer looks fabulous eventhough it's a Stand still.
HaKammo-o Is cool and then we have Kommo-o, this last one dex info is some Berserk/Macbeth reference mine gold. It seems now it has a Sound based, Dragon type move that lowers defense (Loses scales) after using it. (like a Najarala i wonder if real snakes do that.) It looks like it's going to be fast from the trailers.
Alola-Muk is so cool I really like the desing now has sharp teeth and sharp claws which go in hand with using Crunch, bite, Poison fang and I'm sure even more. I love how it constantly changes color strats. In the japanese trailer it uses a move I think it is Sludge bomb (Edit: It seems someone said is Gunk shoot, never mind then). It has Gluttony now!
Bonsweet evos are awesome Trop kick seems to be a really decent move as not only deals damage it reduces atk of the opponent. Queenly majesty Ability, nullifies priority moves, doesn't say anything about positive or negative priority so there is that. By the way if you touch the Crown of a Tsareena it loses strength.(That sounds like bait for...).
We got Name, type and abilities of Cutiefly evolution Rimbombee! Don't skip! they have Pollen Puffs!! They have diverse effects! Negative and positives, we don't know if it is an item or a move but it is distributed in Alola at high prices
We got new characters revealed:
Olivia, Specialized in Rock types. Looks really good.
Captain Ilima is the one who manages the Trial with Gumshoos and A-Raticate as he is specialized in normal types and the first Trial.
Mega Kanghaskan apparently got Parental bond nerfed.
Japanese trailer shows the trainer bag, it's got items, medicines, Tm/Hm, key items, Something with a heart shape...(Berries?), and Z-stones.
Btw now we know Bruxish uses Aqua jet while it has Dazzle!
I don't know if we did already but the name of the Second island is Akala!
Silvally is clearly been hinted by the official Ability names to be related in some way to Arceus as of now it's because of the Ar/KRS/Alpha system etc... (Depending on what your native language is.) Japanese trailer shows the bag when speaking about it so those are the memories (one for each type not one item for all)
After going from Type:Null to Silvally gains height and loses weight!!
6'03" -> 7’07”
265.7 lbs. -> 221.6 lbs.
Gladion holding the memories in the Trailer looks fabulous eventhough it's a Stand still.
HaKammo-o Is cool and then we have Kommo-o, this last one dex info is some Berserk/Macbeth reference mine gold. It seems now it has a Sound based, Dragon type move that lowers defense (Loses scales) after using it. (like a Najarala i wonder if real snakes do that.) It looks like it's going to be fast from the trailers.
Alola-Muk is so cool I really like the desing now has sharp teeth and sharp claws which go in hand with using Crunch, bite, Poison fang and I'm sure even more. I love how it constantly changes color strats. In the japanese trailer it uses a move I think it is Sludge bomb (Edit: It seems someone said is Gunk shoot, never mind then). It has Gluttony now!
Bonsweet evos are awesome Trop kick seems to be a really decent move as not only deals damage it reduces atk of the opponent. Queenly majesty Ability, nullifies priority moves, doesn't say anything about positive or negative priority so there is that. By the way if you touch the Crown of a Tsareena it loses strength.(That sounds like bait for...).
We got Name, type and abilities of Cutiefly evolution Rimbombee! Don't skip! they have Pollen Puffs!! They have diverse effects! Negative and positives, we don't know if it is an item or a move but it is distributed in Alola at high prices
We got new characters revealed:
Olivia, Specialized in Rock types. Looks really good.
Captain Ilima is the one who manages the Trial with Gumshoos and A-Raticate as he is specialized in normal types and the first Trial.
Mega Kanghaskan apparently got Parental bond nerfed.
Japanese trailer shows the trainer bag, it's got items, medicines, Tm/Hm, key items, Something with a heart shape...(Berries?), and Z-stones.
Btw now we know Bruxish uses Aqua jet while it has Dazzle!
I don't know if we did already but the name of the Second island is Akala!
Last edited:
Hey guys, let's not talk about VGC too much nor speculate on nerfs for other Pokemon. I already deleted a bunch of posts that had no purpose being here. Let's get back to talking about the cool stuff shown in the trailer like Silvally. Please remember this is not a competitive discussion forum.
The best thing with RKS is that people will learn how to properly pronounce Arceus' name.
Oh, the Najarala reference. Great work man.
The mo-o line are conceptually based off of a legend about the guardian mo'o: Kapualei and Kanaka Maoli warriors.
I'm still going to knowingly use the incorrect pronunciation though. It sounds more mystical and fitting for a god to me.
Reminder: Kommo-o's signature attack reduces its OWN defense, not its Target's defense.
Also, I never really liked Muk, but I like Alolan Muk, probably because it magically changes the colours on its body. It's a rainbow grime. I don't know why, but I think that it's awesome.
EDIT:
Olivia:
"Her skill is extraordinary, as can only be expected from someone chosen to serve as kahuna at such a young age. Yet she still insists that she is just a normal girl.. She uses a Lycanroc."
Olivia may or may not be an ultra beast...
EDIT:
Olivia:
"Her skill is extraordinary, as can only be expected from someone chosen to serve as kahuna at such a young age. Yet she still insists that she is just a normal girl.. She uses a Lycanroc."
Olivia may or may not be an ultra beast...
Last edited:
Type: Null was already so cool then they give us Silvally. Very excited for this pokemon especially from a competitive perspective.
I always kind like Bounsweet just cause of its horribly tragic description. Glad it got some cool evolutions and that they don't get picked on so much. It's gonna be tough to choose between Tsarenna and Lurantis. I like them both a lot.
Parental Bond nerf is amazing :DDD
I always kind like Bounsweet just cause of its horribly tragic description. Glad it got some cool evolutions and that they don't get picked on so much. It's gonna be tough to choose between Tsarenna and Lurantis. I like them both a lot.
Parental Bond nerf is amazing :DDD
Woah ok lots of evolutions. Wasn't to fond of Silvally when I saw it in CoroCoro but the video and artwork do this thing justice. As has been pointed out, RKS System sounds like Arceus, but the design, wow. Also, I think it's confirmed that Gladion gets Silvally, as he seen behind it with the Type: Null breaking mask picture.
The -o line is interesting. It evolves to train itself to defeat some sort of darkness. Mabye it will be involved in the plot of the Ultra Beasts, who knows? But I find this line kinda meh design wise. Not a fan of the scales everywhere because it looks weird.
Riombee looks like a bigger cutifly, that's it.
Ok, look at the video. WE HAVE A RAINBOW MUK. IT'S A RAINBOW AND IT'S A MOVING RAINBOW I LOVE ALOLAN MUK. Design wise, I hate Alolan Grimer, I understand it's meant to be ugly but ugh, I hate it. Alolan Muk gets a free pass because IT'S A RAINBOW.
Ilima graduated from Trainer's School huh? Well, they sound like the first trial captain we'll meet, since other Trainer School graduates have roles early story, such as Roxanne.
Olivia has a Z-Bracelet, meaning Z-Moves. Also big shame to learn that she's a rock type kahuna, meaning other kahunas will have type specialties to.
I'm neutral toward this annoucement tbh. I love Silvally and Alolan Muk, but Riombee, Bounsweet Evos and type specialist kahunas ruin it for me.
The -o line is interesting. It evolves to train itself to defeat some sort of darkness. Mabye it will be involved in the plot of the Ultra Beasts, who knows? But I find this line kinda meh design wise. Not a fan of the scales everywhere because it looks weird.
Riombee looks like a bigger cutifly, that's it.
Ok, look at the video. WE HAVE A RAINBOW MUK. IT'S A RAINBOW AND IT'S A MOVING RAINBOW I LOVE ALOLAN MUK. Design wise, I hate Alolan Grimer, I understand it's meant to be ugly but ugh, I hate it. Alolan Muk gets a free pass because IT'S A RAINBOW.
Ilima graduated from Trainer's School huh? Well, they sound like the first trial captain we'll meet, since other Trainer School graduates have roles early story, such as Roxanne.
Olivia has a Z-Bracelet, meaning Z-Moves. Also big shame to learn that she's a rock type kahuna, meaning other kahunas will have type specialties to.
I'm neutral toward this annoucement tbh. I love Silvally and Alolan Muk, but Riombee, Bounsweet Evos and type specialist kahunas ruin it for me.
]
I just had to.
Ahhhhh.
(Yes, I drew this)
Last edited by a moderator:
From what I read, that just makes it beating up on Gabite and Garchomp even better.
LOL NO.
That localisation is terrible and a way to try and avoid people having to say the word "Arse"
I'll keep saying it the way the Japanese say it, aka the right way.
Things that irritate me: Olivia clearly has nothing on her left wrist when she's talking before the battle, but clearly has a Z-Ring on said wrist in her battle animation.
- Status