NOC Paranoia Mafia Game Over - Mafia Wins

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Hawkie said:
um can u tell us why u think it's either flyhn/dentricos/twin or me/texas/aubisio

if ur posting who u think the scumteam is then u must have went through a thought-process to come to those conclusions, i'd like to hear it
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I'm not saying it's one of those groupings just that you are the most likely scum in that order to me, and fh somewhere there too. Dentricos, you're just acting similar to how you were in neighbourhood, and I saw all of your convo stuff which was similar. You were scum then.

None of these are hard reads either but if the lynch was up to me it would be flyhn right now. No intention to change my vote.
 
Personally, I'd go for a Beta, Hawkie or Texas lynch. Prioritizing Beta due to inactivity and not posting when challenged.

Actually, I don't think it's close to being 50% so lynch Beta thunder
 
i've been thinking about the strategies scum would employ in this scenario. if scum have someone who is generally perceived as town by the vts it'd be smart to have them bus another scum nearer the end making town think they're like 100% town so when the endgame vote comes they'll still have someone. something we should keep in consideration
 
What part of being Vamp made Dentricos' tone scum motivated, Josh? You can act like town no problem since you don't have a problem lynching mafia. I don't see why comparing the games helps here when most of that was just his personality imo.

I would be worried about the Betathunder wagon if I didn't like everyone on it right now.
 
Josh said:
I'm not saying it's one of those groupings just that you are the most likely scum in that order to me, and fh somewhere there too. Dentricos, you're just acting similar to how you were in neighbourhood, and I saw all of your convo stuff which was similar. You were scum then.

None of these are hard reads either but if the lynch was up to me it would be flyhn right now. No intention to change my vote.
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I'm more interested in the noob part than the scummy part...

Hawkie nooo... u killed our chances of a bus ;-;
 
Former Hope said:
Personally, I'd go for a Beta, Hawkie or Texas lynch. Prioritizing Beta due to inactivity and not posting when challenged.

Actually, I don't think it's close to being 50% so lynch Beta thunder
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Former Hope said:
So first you say I might be mafia because I want to lynch someone who is acting suspicious. Now your flipping around and saying I might be scum because I don't want to lynch people (which is not at all accurate). This complete 180 really isn't making you seem towny.
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A. Why is Texas on that list when you've made no mention of reading him as scum/not tried to give us an insight into why he's a scumread for you?
B. Why isn't Haruno on that list when you said they weren't acting towny?
C. Why are you still prioritising lynching inactives as if there's nothing else going on connected to you that you could be posting about?
 
Blazade said:
The thing about this game that people don't seem to get that trying to protect someone loses value as a scumread when the terrorists don't need to keep majority, but simply stay alive.

Gut is king, boys
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yeah but do the terrorists know that

i mean obviously now they do

but DID they
 
i mean like... think about it. would a terrorist actually be dumb enough to flat-out refuse to contribute when challenged to do so?

i'm of the opinion that they'd be more likely to start contributing, but with weak/questionable reasoning. straight-up saying "no" would bring a lot of unwanted pressure onto them

(sorry for the multiposting i'm just tossin shit out there)
 
i see 0 reason as to why there's a wagon on Betathunder right now. He's a first time player so expectations of him should be lower and it honestly just seems like an easy lynch for scum to push.

accuse me of buddying i dont give a fuck if i had never played before and got lynched d1 for not knowing what to say it wouldn't help me improve/exactly make me want to continue playing lol

i'd rather we lynch today based on an actual read. There's plenty of time to get the inactives and trying to lynch one when we have generated so much discussion and so many people have suspicions is just lazy and stupid imo
 
Hawkie said:
i see 0 reason as to why there's a wagon on Betathunder right now. He's a first time player so expectations of him should be lower and it honestly just seems like an easy lynch for scum to push.

accuse me of buddying i dont give a fuck if i had never played before and got lynched d1 for not knowing what to say it wouldn't help me improve/exactly make me want to continue playing lol

i'd rather we lynch today based on an actual read. There's plenty of time to get the inactives and trying to lynch one when we have generated so much discussion and so many people have suspicions is just lazy and stupid imo
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hawkie gets to go in my town pile
 
why are we lynching Betathunder .. he's new and we've known from previous experiences that new players are more inclined to be inactive. Lynching him is NOT the way to deal with this.

I'm not saying he ISN'T scum, in fact, I don't know if the terrorists have communication but if they do it could be BEtathunder/Walrein??? but this is just speculation, we shouldn't lynch Beta.
 
Former Hope said:
Personally, I'd go for a Beta, Hawkie or Texas lynch. Prioritizing Beta due to inactivity and not posting when challenged.

Actually, I don't think it's close to being 50% so lynch Beta thunder
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Former Hope said:
Personally, I'd go for a Beta, Hawkie or Texas lynch. Prioritizing Beta due to inactivity and not posting when challenged.

Actually, I don't think it's close to being 50% so lynch Beta thunder
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I have other obligations than checking this thread every second, but it honestly feels like you are just grasping at straws to find someone to blame
 
although a comment from Betathunder would not be bad at this point... speaking of lynching, Vote Flyhn because of his null contributions and tbh just not being like normal flyhn and everything I said on the last page

edit: didn't see betathunder's post, you don't need to comment
 
Blazade said:
What part of being Vamp made Dentricos' tone scum motivated, Josh? You can act like town no problem since you don't have a problem lynching mafia. I don't see why comparing the games helps here when most of that was just his personality imo.

I would be worried about the Betathunder wagon if I didn't like everyone on it right now.
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I dunno man, the way he acted. You were the host so you saw first hand how I went out of my way to push for a Gale lynch in my hood chat when it wasn't prompted for example. My philosophy as scum is only I matter and the rest of my team doesn't once town investigative roles are dead. But anyways, dentricos just seems behaviorally the same. You could see our hood chat too as host so you might know what I mean? I only have mobile so isoing is pretty out of the question for me but everything I've seen from Dentricos just doesn't come off as townie to me.
 
that's really dumb Hawkie I literally just checked the thread right after Walrein posted, I can't prove this to you but I would have opposed the betathunder lynch if I had checked before that.
 
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Walrein said:
get off betathunder you clowns, i'm calling it now that's a D1NOCMISLYNCH waiting to happen
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So the proper response is to get Beta to contribute more and not to give him a free pass just because people are pushing him, and also to figure out who on the wagon is scummy, not overreact like a clown.

I don't there should be any more votes on Beta and I absolutely think there should be more discussion on it but what's out there now isn't good enough.
 
I don't think a beta lynch makes nearly as much sense now as when i first started the wagon and I'm inclined to get off it

pancake is gut-reading scummy to me, twin and blazade continue reading as strong towns
 
Blazade said:
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So the proper response is to get Beta to contribute more and not to give him a free pass just because people are pushing him, and also to figure out who on the wagon is scummy, not overreact like a clown.

I don't there should be any more votes on Beta and I absolutely think there should be more discussion on it but what's out there now isn't good enough.
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Former Hope. His posts at the start of the day were just trying to generate discussion like any good town/mafia member would. But notice how passive he was in regards to dishing out reads unless they were town ones. He reacted negatively to me lynching Aubisio and this IMO is for one of 2 reasons:

A. Aubisio is one of his scum partners and he was trying to steer away from him being lynched without making it obvious he was doing so.
B. He saw reacting this way to me as a good way to earn himself towncred by "following a lead" and trying to paint me as scum.

Then after 2 players presented reads on him and lynched him, he decided we weren't worthy of a reply and tried to downplay the entire situation by just trying to push his "inactivity lynch" on Betathunder which imo town would not do. Any towny would at least respond to the things me & Haruno said, his reaction to this by totally ignoring it can only mean he is scum in my opinion. This is a case of self-preservation as he immediately tried to shift the current lynchtarget from himself to Betathunder in such a weird way, which I think is 100% not town.
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
i've never played with flyhn before and he's slipped below my radar so far, can someone summarize for me why there's a wagon on him beyond genreal idling
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flyhn used to be hardcore bad at NOC and was like this every game, regardless of alignment

since then he's improved considerably and generally at least tries to contribute to discussion

that's not quite what's been happening this game

THAT BEING SAID the best game i've seen out of flyhn was when he was scum in DBZ so idk if this is necessarily scum-indicative

interesting that texas feels the need to reiterate his townread on twin given that twin hasn't posted since the first half of page 7
 
Oh and Betathunder isn't an activity lynch for me. When Beta sees two people fighting and tries to set up a lynch between them saying they both look sketch as one of his only pieces of content that pings me especially since Haruno v Former looked TvT to me (this is because they read as very argumentative to specially each other and kept explaining and elaborating points in reasonable ways. That's a sucmtell that works even now.

Hawkie's post is good, however. I've never seen Former Hope's scumgame but if this is it (I'm still gut leaning no) then that's a reasonable explanation.
 
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