NOC Paranoia Mafia Game Over - Mafia Wins

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Former Hope (2): Dentricos, Josh
Texas Cloverleaf (2): Walrein, thetwinmasters
pancake (3): rssp1, Texas Cloverleaf, Hawkie
Blazade (1): pancake
Josh (1): Haruno
Not voting: OM Room/Beta, Aubisio, Blazade(voted Beta), FH(voted Beta), Flyhn(Voted Haruno)


Haruno (4): Walrein, Texas Cloverleaf, rssp1, Dentricos
Texas Cloverleaf (3): thetwinmasters, Former Hope, Haruno
Former Hope (1): Hawkie
Aubisio (1): OM Room
Walrein (1): Josh
Not voting (2): Aubisio, Flyhn
 
Well that Haruno flip reflects badly on me, amazed that a town would refuse to defend themselves/put actual logic to their push

His flip makes twin or walrein look worse to me, I can't say concretely which but my gut prior to my isos was walrein scum. On the other hand twin looked much worse after my isos and seems to have gone mostly without suspicion. idk. Vote thetwinmasters I guess. Or Aubisio if we still think he's mafia.

I don't actually see any reasonable way to defend myself if anyone thinks I'm scum, after the Haruno flip I'd think I was scum if I were someone else so all I can say about that is that if you do vote for me, just make sure you also think that town can still win after three mislynches if you vote perfectly. If nothing else a lynch on me would validate my content, especially the isos, since there's no way the mafia ever kills me with how scummy I look

As it is we're down to 11 with 2 or 3 scum and probably needing to end the game latest by 6 remaining. Means we have probably one or two mislynches left to us to have a chance to win.

idk. with how badly haruno looked i was convinced he was scum :/

from your list former hope:

Haruno (4): Walrein=rssp1, Dentricos, Texas Cloverleaf

idk if there's a logical base to this but Haruno's flip makes me question rssp. if haruno could look so bad and flip good then maybe rssp can look so good and flip bad?

idk
 
EDIT: Damn it Texas, you saying questioning rssp1 came as I was writing this >:(


I plead temporary insanity at end of last day XD

I want to see how this game ends. But rn I cba to be smart and make good choices. I'm probably not good enough. Does being sub at this point in the game help town or cause issues?



I find it really interesring Rssp1 lived... also it didn't feel he was really pressuring people very much yesterday just reads that were well thought out and sound very good (good logic ect...). The only reason I point this out was it seemed to be like two scum from the last game I played did.
 
Dentricos said:
EDIT: Damn it Texas, you saying questioning rssp1 came as I was writing this >:(


I plead temporary insanity at end of last day XD

I want to see how this game ends. But rn I cba to be smart and make good choices. I'm probably not good enough. Does being sub at this point in the game help town or cause issues?



I find it really interesring Rssp1 lived... also it didn't feel he was really pressuring people very much yesterday just reads that were well thought out and sound very good (good logic ect...). The only reason I point this out was it seemed to be like two scum from the last game I played did.
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Subbing out is probably terrible for town since you've been following the game and know where things are out and sub coming in would have to be willing to follow the whole thread over again


in general I really hate this trend of subbing out of mafia games, idc if you signed up and "oh noes life or games" you signed up, put in at least the minimum effort
 
Actually who was it that defended me, OM Room and rssp right? The more I'm thinking about the more likely I think that the people who have been pressuring for a lynch on me are town since I'm the easiest dissident for the mafia to use, and I remember walrein was pushing for a lynch on me d2 too. Still sketched by him but I like this better right now Unvote Lynch OM Room
 
If you're going to lynch me hammer ASAP, it's best for us to be able to trust my content and not have today's reads poison the well against people when I flip town
 
what?

hammer is 6 I believe? and i have twin voting me atm. i'm only a good lynch if you think you can afford the mislynch but if you are on board with lynching me (and who could blame you) then its best to do it asap
 
I'm fully aware of how my actions today look. Considering how poorly the Haruno flip looks on me I'd rather not fuck around and confuse any issues that might come up today
 
Thetwinmasters said:
excellent texas wants us to end the day sooner so we have less discussion!
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Predictable and expected response. Any discussion today is poisoned completely if I'm the ultimate lynch since it's all based around the idea that I'm scum. Therefore providing confusing and conflicting results when I flip town.

I know how that statement looks, I've seen past mafia games, I knew what you would respond, and that's still the best course of action if town intends to lynch me.
 
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the texas chains of iso seemed like more of a scum than town action to me. It looks like contributions but it generally deflects away from the user doing them.... but the reaction to josh pointing out something similar looked like how texas responded as a townie in the last game. But having only played one game with him, I'm sure he would pick up on this and try use it as a townie points if he was scum...not opposed to the lynch if thats the direction it takes.

Twins an odd one to read right now but that is indicative of the fact that he is generally a hard player to read. seems to be playing a fair bit softer than his usual game though? could be something to note....

Former hope vs hawkie interaction felt like a TvS to me, and along with some other posts / votes by him I'm leaning a fair bit towards former hope being scum and hawkie being clean, but i feel like a flip on one would reveal a fair bit about the other.

I generally dont like using the logic of 'hosts will have balanced the game this way so this person is scum' but I'm going to do it shamelessly anyway and say that since blazade flipped town im inclined to believe walrein is scum. Its not like there havent been things in is postings have bothered me as well, but the scumbag tactic i stated above puts some more 'oomph' behind this read for me. i will iso if i must point things out, but i generally dont believe iso adds too much to a format like this.

My stab at solving this game: 1 or 2 of the above people ive mentioned is scum and then one of either aubisio/ OM room / one of those lurking noobies is scum with them. I feel like a scum is lurking in the noobies / lurkers.

with that being said lets put some pressure on those lurkers

LYNCH AUBISIO

START TALKING

AMA
 
considering im suspicous of so many i may as well say my order of most to least suspicious

Walrein / Former Hope = Texas / Twin for top group

Bottom group would be Aubisio / OM room

I think hawkie is a solid town tho.
 
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