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NOC Deathnote NOC Mafia - GAME OVER, Postgame in #714

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Thetwinmasters said:
merlin doesn't know percival so that isn't what ag is claiming but I really doubt what ag is saying at this point
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I had to ask that because otherwise AG seems far too certain that josh is merlin as opposed to say josh being percival (I have no thoughts on either being the case atm) so him trying to say it's a merlin 50-50 and not a potential merlin/percival 50-50 is worrying to me.
 
see why would a town not just claim one of bg/disguise artist instead of being dodgy as fuck in their claim and not even trying to defend themselves then out an potential merlin possibility which is like the most anti town thing in the fucking world
 
Thetwinmasters said:
Also josh saying aura guardian scum slipped is a borderline lie while AG has not acted towny in 1 bit saying he scum slipped is distorting the facts a lot.
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His post on page 1 is practically claiming scum. That vote is one of yhe scummiest I've seen on smogon.

Hey aura, yknow what actually happened? You're one of the not deathnote scum and are mad you got caught! If you were town you would not be claiming nor would you be calling me merlin. If you're town you just played against your wincon in attempting to out merlin (scum are gonna guess it for me if you flip town which is gamethrowing regardless of the flip) and if you're scum that was a hilariously bad defense.
 
Aura Guardian said:
Why? pancake just offered valuable discussion other than just an argument that's basically boiled down to his read. Granted, he hasn't VOTED yet...

Oh, speaking of votes, I checked, and lost a post while ordering my thoughts (I'm tired, so sue me) and looks like I forgot to UNVOTE

Anyway, my views on the reads:

Mithril: I can't see anything against him, so I'll take what he said (which my skimming said is against a Merlin claim, and a dig at Josh defending Hitmonleet while distancing himself) as reliable

Gronk: posts seem thought-out

Texas: Given his arguments against Josh, I feel I'm not one to comment. Can I recuse myself?

Haruno: Hmm, I'd say more like neutral lean town than slight town. I like his posts as townie.

Knights: strikes me as a more scummy move than townie.

Asek: I'd rate that as more scummy than neutral

acid: I'd give him a pass, IRL stuff exists and that coulda been it.

Hitmonleet: very interesting. scummy for that then

Moody: I very much agree.

Me/Josh: Actually, I think both town and he just got it wrong.

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not rated: twin, pancake
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This post makes me think pancake is super scummy if ag is scum as well
 
I get fed up easily by complete town foolishness, especially when I made some effort to stop foolishness.

I suppose our arguments early, and my attempts to cool off by backing off from the thread for some hours, worked against my desire to steer away from this.
 
Village:
Josh (his actions thus far given who I figure Percival to be, make him obviously who I've named.)
You (I doubt anyone who changes their vote around that much, but not usually in line with the current big wagon, could be mafia)
... Look, I figured out who Percival is, so I'm gonna skip him.
Blank Slate2356 (for now. I know what he claimed, and if he lied, the real role can easily disprove it. I'll give it until day 2)

Mafia:
MoodyCloud (7 posts is enough to be active, but enough to slip beneath scumhunting radar, and about half his posts are devoid of usefulness and others are way too short. There's a minimum of contribution, but I just don't see it)
Hitmonleet (because I figured out who's in Percival's role PM, and process of elimination)
Haruno (Began with poor strategy talk, low usefulness. Then went to banter... then still on the claim stuff??? Get 2 maf for 3 village? Um... like wtf? THEN SAID ARGUING ABOUT SETUP IS POINTLESS. Then more minor comments without substance other than ???-type stuff)

Vote Hitmonleet b/c process of elimination
 
I'm inclined to believe Aura here actually. I don't know if his assertions against Josh are correct or not but I think he's arguing like someone who thinks they're right. The logic he would use as a disguise artist to come to the belief that Josh is merlin mislynching him is one he would use as town I think. I also think if he were scum he'd at least have a buddy helping him defend himself better.

I'm more confident in a wagon flipping scum where I vote hitmonleet
 
We're apparently supposed to believe that despite EVERYONE ELSE in game playing, you're the only one who's discovered who percival + merlin are in addition to knowing who's in each of their pm's? Yeah, no. Not buying that, you're actually retarded if you think 2 mafia for 3 village is a bad trade (you didn't even mention the extra vote at the end of game which only hurts us more late game LOOOL). That and your actions up till now make no sense.

You tried to oust merlin
Tried to GK yourself by claiming disguise artist
among other stupid shit? rofl
 
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