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lynch blankslate: lloyd, blazade, pancake (3)
lynch moody: lightwolf, acidphoenix (2)
lynch texas: shubaka (1)
lynch aubisio: haruno (1)
vote lloyd: moody (1)

this should be the current votecount, please correct me if i failed to include your vote or included your vote incorrectly
 
Vanillish Wafer said:
it honestly seems too reckless to be town play.
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Texas Cloverleaf said:
That might actually be the best way to describe my historical town player
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Does anyone who's played with town Texas before agree with that statement? (The goddamn disadvantage of playing as a newcomer in a community where player meta is apparently an amazing argument. NO IT'S NOT.)
On the other hand, anyone making a case against Texas should at least give a basic answer for how his faction would benefit from him making his move so early.
Null on Texas because he has both townflags and scumflags.

Whydon has done literally nothing except randomvote early day 1 and after that, answer the first RQS. Those are his 2 total posts.
No wonder I had 0 impression of him.

In contrast, aubisio has been "active" but clearly filtering.


Pancake flat-out dismisses the possibility of the texas "clear" being a result of modposting or other scum activity, which I don't like. However, he is right in saying that the "obvious answer"-that it's a public inspection-should not be ignored.
pancake said:
ok first of all why does this end with day: lol.
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The letter-sending is a Dayaction, so that can only be done at daytime.

pancake said:
yo if you're talking about pushing easy wagons hello???????????????????? first of all there's you like this entire game, and second there's haruno, who's literally being the KING of pushing easy wagons. I think he's just dumb town but he could definitely be scum too, I know this isn't very clear. I stand with my post anyway. can you actually just stop being bad? stop dodging questions and realize that the arguments against you are actually legitimate, because so far you're been pretty much dodging questions this entire game. Meanwhile, I was pushing YOU yesterday, a far from "easy wagon" because many prominent players thought you were town.
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I think moodycloud was a pretty easy wagon to jump onto yesterday. Lightwolf made a plenty-good argument fro a bandwagon to happen.

pancake said:
same, but actually on a more serious note, staying quiet and not contributing is even worse than what you are doing now.
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the sad thing is that it's hard to give an afk person flak.

LightWolf said:
How fucking hard it is to do something that simple? For a scum probably very hard, for a village it should be trivial and welcomed to be able to clear the air on false allegations.
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Am I allowed to disagree with that? I generally find it very hard to allay suspicion regardless of alignment.

blazade: lynch blankslate
pancake: lynch moodycloud
lightwolf: lynch haruno
texas: lynch haruno
Knights: lynch texas
knights: unlynch texas
aubisio: lynch moodycloud
shubaka: lynch haruno
haruno: lynch texas
Fort: lynch moodycloud
moodycloud: lynch lightwolf
moodycloud: unlynch + lynch aubisio
shubaka: unlynch + lynch texas
vanillish wafer: lynch blankslate
texas: unlynch + lynch lightwolf
lightwolf: unlynch + lynch moodycloud
smashlloyd: lynch blank slate
moodycloud: lynch smashlloyd
moodycloud: unlynch + lynch smashlloyd
blazade: unlynch + lynch aubisio
aubisio: unlynch moodycloud
haruno: lynch aubisio
lightwolf: unlynch + lynch formerhope
texas: unlynch + lynch Fort
blazade: unlynch + lynch blazade
texas: unlynch + lynch knights
texas: unlynch
pancake: unlynch + lynch blankslate
blankslate: lynch aubisio
lightwolf: unlynch + lynch moodycloud
acidphoenix: unlynch + lynch moodycloud

note that I may have missed some unbolded unlynches. apologies if I did.

more to come after I look closely at the big posts
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internet I lynched moodycloud

Participation is better than expected? I guess most people have said words of some sort lol?
Hitmonleet are you just c/p'ing the tags? I'm 99.8% sure that it doesn't tag anyone if you c/p. Whatever it is you're doing, the tags don't appear to be happening.
 
I did not ask him to disprove a gut feeling. I asked that my points are in any way or form addressed and my requests, such as moody telling me where the specific MULTIPLE walrein posts he claimed existed are. This is why I think it's much harder to answer as mafia than village, as a village you just say what you thought because you were thinking as a villager, if a scum how do you justify any behavior you don't form specifically to to look town.
 
Okay, I should finally have enough time to actually play this game, apologies, when I signed up I didn't think I would have this much rl distractions happen upon me all at once.

As for LW's reasoning against me, a ton of that is honestly really scummly stretched. This for instance "#287 Why? Why make this post at all? This seems so out of place that I have to ask what reason was former pissed enough about walrein double voting? The obvious answer is former was keeping a vote count of his own and walrein was messing it up. Highly likely that means an intention to be involved in changing one's vote if it calls for it. If it turns out all the top lynches were village, I could see this being used as evidence that Former may have been trying to see if a triple or quad tie of villagers was possible, that is easily worth a self sacrifice in my book."

The post in question is obviously just pointing out that walrein's vote count was off, I noticed this because there was a vote for me and also their vote elsewhere in the vote count not because of any "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams" conspiracy theory. To see it as anything besides NAI is *really* scummy (or a confirmation bias tunnel).

The rest of the stuff can easily be brushed aside by a simple reasoning, I haven't put a lot of time in this game. Between midterms and other rl things that I didn't expect, my attention and focus has not been on this game as much as it's been on other NOC's. As such, yeah, most of my posts are rather obligatory word filler because I've been trying to at least give some activity despite being busy rather than completely idling *cough* aubisio *cough*, so to say that they are fillery is completely accurate, but at least I am giving something to work with. If you much rather, I suppose I could just not post, but that seems highly anti town.

So for the meanwhile, because of the BS reasoning behind it lynch lightwolf
 
Former Hope said:
Okay, I should finally have enough time to actually play this game, apologies, when I signed up I didn't think I would have this much rl distractions happen upon me all at once.

As for LW's reasoning against me, a ton of that is honestly really scummly stretched. This for instance "#287 Why? Why make this post at all? This seems so out of place that I have to ask what reason was former pissed enough about walrein double voting? The obvious answer is former was keeping a vote count of his own and walrein was messing it up. Highly likely that means an intention to be involved in changing one's vote if it calls for it. If it turns out all the top lynches were village, I could see this being used as evidence that Former may have been trying to see if a triple or quad tie of villagers was possible, that is easily worth a self sacrifice in my book."

The post in question is obviously just pointing out that walrein's vote count was off, I noticed this because there was a vote for me and also their vote elsewhere in the vote count not because of any "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams" conspiracy theory. To see it as anything besides NAI is *really* scummy (or a confirmation bias tunnel).

The rest of the stuff can easily be brushed aside by a simple reasoning, I haven't put a lot of time in this game. Between midterms and other rl things that I didn't expect, my attention and focus has not been on this game as much as it's been on other NOC's. As such, yeah, most of my posts are rather obligatory word filler because I've been trying to at least give some activity despite being busy rather than completely idling *cough* aubisio *cough*, so to say that they are fillery is completely accurate, but at least I am giving something to work with. If you much rather, I suppose I could just not post, but that seems highly anti town.

So for the meanwhile, because of the BS reasoning behind it lynch lightwolf
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YEEEEEEEES, finally in my element.

Okay on #287, I didn't catch that meaning, because the walrein vote count right above didn't have Walrein voting twice and I only took that into account and walrein's bizarre voting pattern near the end of the day, thinking it was referring to that. Also I do not see how it's that farfetched anyways or is an attempt to mislynch you when it literally depends on 4 people who were lynches yesterday are all village, it's not like a I twisted it into proof to lynch you now. I do not like that that was your most important thing to say as your last post at deadline but whatever.

And no you CAN'T brush off the rest of the stuff, please respond to each of my post reactions on you one by one. You are pretending all I said there that your content is token, which is a misrepresentation of what I actually said.
 
I just realized that my vote on you until you unvote me is negated by the fact that you had previously unvoted me. #reading

unvote

Also I can comply with that, let me just catch up on the other parts of the tread since my wifi-lessness
 
Well I personally do not allay or look for people to allay them. I just tell it like it is, if they believe it cool if not whatever a majority would have to for me to die of it, and as longg as someone gives me a reasonable by any stretch of the imagination reason I'm okay with it.

Also please do as I commanded, by which I mean what I asked from you in the conclusion post after the read list.
 
gonna preface this by sayin unvote texas i wanted a baseline on the pub-inspect, but that feels dumb now.

i'm fairly lost on "today's" discussion. it seems to be slamming idlers, while also saying idling isn't inherently scummy, while saying blank is scum, but since moody is scum we should lynch moody first? idk and i can't exactly iso (which is what i'm dying to do) on mobile, so if day is still goin on this time tomorrow, expect one stupidly long post from ya friendly neighborhood shub.
 
LW's conclusion thingy said:
Blaster I'd like a comprehensive deadliest from you even if only on those you have any strong feelings on, around a small paragraph's worth of feelings.

Fort I'm starting to suspect you a good deal and only my greater ones overshadowing it keep you in check. I'd like you to do what I told blazers to do as well so I can judge you better.
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I assume that blaster is a mispelling of blazade?

moody: scumlean
From yesterday, mostly. The cancerous lynch mostly pushed the lynch off him.

Texas: scumlean
Cancerous lynch yesterday.
I still don't buy his claim. How the fuck am I supposed to believe "I'm not a faction cop, I'm not in a faction, and I had the ability to faction cop last night." I can accept that that's still possible, but it's harder to accept IF given that we already had a rolecop flip. His lynches are also all over the place.

Vanillish: scumlean
does exactly what others criticized about him.... right after being critized for it. Referring to giving reasons for town and nulls, but no reasons for scum reads/leans. I guess gut reads are a thing, but that still rubs me the wrong way.

Pancake: scumlean
"Honestly I think he is too good to do that so I'm dismissing him as being a fucking idiot for now." as well as other times when he just flat-out ignores a possibility (such as the possbility of a modposter). He seems to be with the moody wagon, which he denies is an easy wagon to jump on.
His attitude pokes a reverse scale.

blank slate: null
I really have no idea what makes him so scummy. Perhaps I missed some crucial flag, because he's had people on him a large part of the game now, and I'm just "???"

acidphoenix: gut scum
it looks like you're just picking and choosing your fronts, and not really contributing bigly to any one discussion

Smashlloyd: null
posts just seem bland to me. He's not quite fillering, but not really being overly contributive.

Idlers: %&$#%#@$ get in the game

ButterToast: null
ughghghghhg I really don't know what to think about him. My gut says town, but if I look at his posts and stuff nothing really flags me either way.

blazade: gut town

Haruno: townlean
You started contributing after day 1, especially slamming on texas, so I guess you were just blahbitying day 1. Which is understandable I guess..? You also refused to continue the exponential bigpost argument, when it could've been a way to just "w.e" your way through day 2. Also, you seem to be doing stuff now, and my main complaint against you yesterday was that you weren't doing shit.

Asek: townread
pointing out that policy lynches are not alignment-indicative nor alignment-based, and also told town to use the mailbox as a claimbox

Lightwolf: townread
consistently poking idlers, poking people to post content, big read posts, aggressively poking at bad logic on multiple fronts

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I think that's more or less in order of my willingness to lynch.
what is even the difference between a [scum]lean and a [scum]read? w.e doesn't matter. inb4 aubisio posts answering this question and doing nothing else..
 
reading over thread now; based on the number of pages in d2 i feel like leaving this alone was a mistake 'cause this is gonna be *long* (not that xenforo not reminding me helped zzzzz)
 
Moodycloud and blankslate are both pretty barf lynch picks right now. I'm not sure that I care one way or another on the lynch with this little of a case, but the blankslate lynch feels like more of an anti-moodycloud push than a pro-blankslate one when you look at the motivations of people making the Blankslate argument. It's not close to being a solid argument, but it's better than the alternative in a game that is pretty fucking all over the place.

Vote Moodycloud
 
I don't like how BT has already made it about only two wagons when nether have too much traction to change.

Yes I am townreading moodycloud but I made my lynch reason on blankslate clear, in that I very much disliked that vote timing and saw no potential scum reads itching to lynch him. Up until pancake's hop on at least but pancake is a coin flip asshole idler right now.

If you'll recall LW's Moody cloud vote was to pressure and to force the issue on questions he had, and look at all the permanent traction it seems to be getting. Lot of detached votes, BT most blatant among them. He drops from gut town to at least null here.

I am very open to other lynches on questionables and idlers i've mentioned but I'm not seeing a lot of good cases.
 
Vote moodycloud

I'm not sold on this dude being town at all and no way that I look at the thread seems to convince me that he's town or even really null, and I want to pressure him more. Also got kinda similar motivation to lightwolf on this.

Townreading Asek and Lightwolf 'cause they seem to be the most well focussed with their posts. Null on Haruno 'cause he's hard to read. Lots of other nulls 'cause I mostly skimmed 'cause it was getting painful to see how it went five pages with the thread literally going in circles and 'cause reading it all in one sitting is pretty tiring. I'll try to increase activity in d3 but jesus christ that day read was painful.
 
I'm not saying that they can't change, I'm saying that with my perspective right now on the two top lynch targets for tomorrows deadline there are seemingly two camps and it's the vote moodycamp and the don't vote moody camp (which is the blankslate camp). Both of these lynches feel like we're criticizing unpolished town players, but there is no fucking better alternative right now that I can think of or has been presented by anyone else.

Right now, I feel like it is marginally the better vote from the two choices, but for god sakes if anyone has anything to say or add or to add lets not wait until the fucking deadline like last time, huh?
 
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