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Asek is playing like garbage and should feel bad regardless of alignment. My reads post is one of the only meaningful / legitimate posts in a thread filled with 350 posts of shit lol I'll quote it here in its' entirety so that people can get educated on how to fking play this game again + I wanna reference it here
Ok now that you're slightly more informed here are the things you should NOT be doing in a NOC:
1. Tunelling
2. Refusing to post reads or make it clear where you stand with respect to other players (exemption for the gunbearer because the gunbearer shouldn't be letting on what he/she is thinking as Texas pointed out)
3. Failing to think through things from an unattached perspective
Ok now that that's out of the way and everyone's caught up watch me put this in action:
- Asek has moved up to probably retarded town because his reads are so awful and his play is such garbage that I don't think a mafia would dare even try this - could still just be typical mafia who I get into a foodfight with then let off the hook because I don't trust my soulread on them but I don't really trust myself to dissociate my own feelings of 'he reads me bad so he must be bad'. Hope I'm not pulling a gut Celever read in F+I here
- DLE hasn't done jack shit and I've only ever seen him do that as mafia so I'll call him out Da Letter El come fite me brah
- Flyhn still isn't doing jack shit and he does this both as town and mafia so imo he should start getting pressured until he posts more substantive reads, there's legit nothing worse for the village than when both the village AND the mafia post 'idk I haven't really seen much noteworthy yet' THEN JUST POST UNINFORMED SOUL READS WHO GIVES A SHIT THAT ISN'T EVEN THE POINT
- The above goes for like half the game but particularly DeathbyWobbuffett, shubaka, winter-delta, and MoodyCloud, who are legit all doing fucking nothing and I guarantee you they have less on their plate than I do
- Blazade is playing really passively and that 'I'd rather get the gun C4 than now idk' post was really bad; I get why town might not wanna get instantly shot but it has nothing to do with them getting the gun too early but rather having to do with the fact that Texas is playing actively and has the gun so a shot onto said town would result in an active and cleared townie getting eliminated. Want more explanation on this from him + want more reads from him
- Twin is really off and is just sort of shifting conversation onto others which is a bit worrisome to say the least, he's definitely dropping in my esteem of his play until he does something real (aka actually posts some reads on a significant number of players), and I would love if more people pressured him to get him to speak the fuck up
- Hitmonleet I think looks better than Aura Guardian now, I haven't read much useful stuff from AG since I posted my reads post but Hitmonleet is still trying to analyze stuff. I like Hitmonleet's play a lot so far in terms of towniness (not gonna comment on quality of arguments however)
- Empoof is still soul town in my book plus how could you possibly shoot a panda like come on
- Jalmont is legit afk like the above group difference being I know he shouldn't be unlike the newbies above. Why is no one talking about him
- Former Hope is sort of panic posting because he knows there's pressure on him, though I'm not sure yet whether he comes off as panicked town or panicked mafia yet. Wanna see more from him, I think that his play will reveal itself in short order
- Yeti is still a qt though some of her recent posts I think she might just be a lot more disposed towards liking me than in past NOCs lol, if I was mafia I would've RNG'd the gun I very much doubt I would've purposefully given it to someone who has links to me and will be looking at my posts more carefully than most. Honestly I think Yeti's trying to justify a soul read on me (like her soul read on Haunted Diamond in F+I mafia) based on her knowledge of my external work circumstances but is trying to find a justification in gameplay terms that imo isn't there. I think she does this more often than not as town but I'm predisposed to good-reading her which is why I didn't even bother with a soul read in my last post
- Josh is posting a lot but mostly just pointing out obvious stuff, idk he seems to have gotten Texas on his 'good side' which worries me a bit that Texas might be piggybacking off of Josh's reads rather than independently arriving at similar ones (as Texas has stated a bit); imo Josh is playing well but it's what I'd expect regardless of his alignment
- Similarly to the above Haruno is playing terribly and it's what I'd expect regardless of his alignment. town!Haruno and mafia!Haruno wouldn't give a shit pretty equally so I'm not sure there's much to do here from a reads standpoint
- Fort Colorcastle has sort of slid under the radar and that worries me a lot. Like does no one else think his play is weird af? Can other people go back, read through his posts, and watch how often he passively agrees with shit, even basic counterarguments to posts he just made? Like come the fuck on who plays that way as town
I think I might be missing someone but I don't even give a shit, come at me for my reads
Notice how this post will generate more discussion than 15 from useless fucking Asek
And that's why you post reads dumbasses. To generate discussion and to provide links between yourself and literally everyone else of some kind or other. It's so fucking hard for mafia to do this accurately and consistently and the notion that we aren't forcing people to man up and post something real is ridiculous; every smogon NOC village since ever has failed in this regard.
I have no more time for this game now I'll try to post follow ups and EoD reads tomorrow based on the responses this post gets
Wanna see a lot more from Blazade Jalmont Thetwinmasters DeathByWobbuffet shubaka17 winter-delta MoodyCloud and especially Da Letter El
Texas should shoot Fort Colorcastle if he shoots right now imo though I think letting things play out until near deadline (if you can be on) is the optimal play for obvious reasons
Asek is playing like garbage and should feel bad regardless of alignment. My reads post is one of the only meaningful / legitimate posts in a thread filled with 350 posts of shit lol I'll quote it here in its' entirety so that people can get educated on how to fking play this game again + I wanna reference it here
Now read that post again in its' entirety because it honestly is one of the only useful posts so far in this threadUncleSam's amazing reads[/quote said:
Ok now that you're slightly more informed here are the things you should NOT be doing in a NOC:
1. Tunelling
2. Refusing to post reads or make it clear where you stand with respect to other players (exemption for the gunbearer because the gunbearer shouldn't be letting on what he/she is thinking as Texas pointed out)
3. Failing to think through things from an unattached perspective
Ok now that that's out of the way and everyone's caught up watch me put this in action:
- Asek has moved up to probably retarded town because his reads are so awful and his play is such garbage that I don't think a mafia would dare even try this - could still just be typical mafia who I get into a foodfight with then let off the hook because I don't trust my soulread on them but I don't really trust myself to dissociate my own feelings of 'he reads me bad so he must be bad'. Hope I'm not pulling a gut Celever read in F+I here
- DLE hasn't done jack shit and I've only ever seen him do that as mafia so I'll call him out Da Letter El come fite me brah
- Flyhn still isn't doing jack shit and he does this both as town and mafia so imo he should start getting pressured until he posts more substantive reads, there's legit nothing worse for the village than when both the village AND the mafia post 'idk I haven't really seen much noteworthy yet' THEN JUST POST UNINFORMED SOUL READS WHO GIVES A SHIT THAT ISN'T EVEN THE POINT
- The above goes for like half the game but particularly DeathbyWobbuffett, shubaka, winter-delta, and MoodyCloud, who are legit all doing fucking nothing and I guarantee you they have less on their plate than I do
- Blazade is playing really passively and that 'I'd rather get the gun C4 than now idk' post was really bad; I get why town might not wanna get instantly shot but it has nothing to do with them getting the gun too early but rather having to do with the fact that Texas is playing actively and has the gun so a shot onto said town would result in an active and cleared townie getting eliminated. Want more explanation on this from him + want more reads from him
- Twin is really off and is just sort of shifting conversation onto others which is a bit worrisome to say the least, he's definitely dropping in my esteem of his play until he does something real (aka actually posts some reads on a significant number of players), and I would love if more people pressured him to get him to speak the fuck up
- Hitmonleet I think looks better than Aura Guardian now, I haven't read much useful stuff from AG since I posted my reads post but Hitmonleet is still trying to analyze stuff. I like Hitmonleet's play a lot so far in terms of towniness (not gonna comment on quality of arguments however)
- Empoof is still soul town in my book plus how could you possibly shoot a panda like come on
- Jalmont is legit afk like the above group difference being I know he shouldn't be unlike the newbies above. Why is no one talking about him
- Former Hope is sort of panic posting because he knows there's pressure on him, though I'm not sure yet whether he comes off as panicked town or panicked mafia yet. Wanna see more from him, I think that his play will reveal itself in short order
- Yeti is still a qt though some of her recent posts I think she might just be a lot more disposed towards liking me than in past NOCs lol, if I was mafia I would've RNG'd the gun I very much doubt I would've purposefully given it to someone who has links to me and will be looking at my posts more carefully than most. Honestly I think Yeti's trying to justify a soul read on me (like her soul read on Haunted Diamond in F+I mafia) based on her knowledge of my external work circumstances but is trying to find a justification in gameplay terms that imo isn't there. I think she does this more often than not as town but I'm predisposed to good-reading her which is why I didn't even bother with a soul read in my last post
- Josh is posting a lot but mostly just pointing out obvious stuff, idk he seems to have gotten Texas on his 'good side' which worries me a bit that Texas might be piggybacking off of Josh's reads rather than independently arriving at similar ones (as Texas has stated a bit); imo Josh is playing well but it's what I'd expect regardless of his alignment
- Similarly to the above Haruno is playing terribly and it's what I'd expect regardless of his alignment. town!Haruno and mafia!Haruno wouldn't give a shit pretty equally so I'm not sure there's much to do here from a reads standpoint
- Fort Colorcastle has sort of slid under the radar and that worries me a lot. Like does no one else think his play is weird af? Can other people go back, read through his posts, and watch how often he passively agrees with shit, even basic counterarguments to posts he just made? Like come the fuck on who plays that way as town
I think I might be missing someone but I don't even give a shit, come at me for my reads
Notice how this post will generate more discussion than 15 from useless fucking Asek
And that's why you post reads dumbasses. To generate discussion and to provide links between yourself and literally everyone else of some kind or other. It's so fucking hard for mafia to do this accurately and consistently and the notion that we aren't forcing people to man up and post something real is ridiculous; every smogon NOC village since ever has failed in this regard.
I have no more time for this game now I'll try to post follow ups and EoD reads tomorrow based on the responses this post gets
Wanna see a lot more from Blazade Jalmont Thetwinmasters DeathByWobbuffet shubaka17 winter-delta MoodyCloud and especially Da Letter El
Texas should shoot Fort Colorcastle if he shoots right now imo though I think letting things play out until near deadline (if you can be on) is the optimal play for obvious reasons
I'll disappear again soon don't worry.
