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NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins
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Hmmmm i kind of like the appeasement here hmph
Deadline in 30 minutes
ugh so after reading 8 pages with as much concentration as I could summon, Asek's argument that he hasn't been scum in a long time is, as knights pointed out, nonsubstantial whatsoever.
knights = heavy townread
hawkie = slight townread
asek = slight scumread
Oddly enough, I haven't actually formed a read on Blazade, the apparent wagon. We're going to nl if the tie keeps up though.
As for how King_ was being "nontown", at that point many of his posts from the time I subbed in had been just quotes with no explanation. I'll do an ISO I guess?
He has 95 posts so I'll do the last 40.
#696 he accuses josh of FoSing a bunch of people but not giving reasons for anyone but him
#705 he claims not to have seen the lynchpool, and then asks questions about it.
#707 asks for activity from ullar and shubaka with tags
#728 he admits to scumreading shubaka for not idling (when shub meta is apparently "an idle master")
#730 so he's attacking josh for retracting a day 1 copclaim with 4 results....? Even I can tell that a day 1 copclaim with 4 results is just screwing around
which is highly defensive btw
#752 votes shubaka, without reasons in this post. apparently he's given reasons before.
#755, #757 explains to knights that he's already answered the latter's question.
#812 he complains about the game being slow... WHY GAME BE FASTER TODAY ;___;
#832 switches vote to ullar, once again no reasons. but this time he definitely has not explained before
He then goes on to say that he doesn't care if town works together, as long as we lynch scum.. That's not how town works last I checked.
#859 he attacks texas some more. This post feels more like OMGUS than anything else.
#959 empty quote. I like how 2 of his consequent posts are exactly 100 apart xD
#967 he asks "Why do you keep saying "king lynch has too much resistance" but then you switch your vote to other people." which is a ridiculous question because a player is going to try and make his vote count towards lynching scum instead of sitting in a lonely going-nowhere wagon.
#971 He clarifies that he started the haruno wagon. Can I just say that a Haruno lynch day 1 gives 0 information. HE DOES HIS BEST TO FUCK AROUND D1 OF NOCS
#973 more quotes without commentary yay!
#977 Another one, after which Asek calls him out on it.
#988 Responds to knight's promise to do a reads aggregation on him by saying that he'll probably be dead by then.
Not really a useful response since a reads aggregation is still useful after the target dies. Heck, its arguably actually more informative after that player flips.
But from his perspective it will be useless by then since it wouldn't have "saved him" or whatever (I'm quoting myself there)
#1011 attacks josh for having more than 1 lynch candidate...?
#1015 blatantly calls for texas/josh to be lynched, with a preference towards Texas. OMGUS much?
#1018 claims that texas's posts (a lot of which were attacking king_) were largely filler, but doesn't quote anything to point at. Once more attacks josh for having more than 1 lynch candidate.
ok deadline is like here so I don't have time to go through the last 10 pages of this thread lol
my verdict: my vote stays on king
Texas + josh is ringing a big bell, but idk if its a townbell or scumbell dammit
knights = heavy townread
hawkie = slight townread
asek = slight scumread
Oddly enough, I haven't actually formed a read on Blazade, the apparent wagon. We're going to nl if the tie keeps up though.
As for how King_ was being "nontown", at that point many of his posts from the time I subbed in had been just quotes with no explanation. I'll do an ISO I guess?
He has 95 posts so I'll do the last 40.
#696 he accuses josh of FoSing a bunch of people but not giving reasons for anyone but him
#705 he claims not to have seen the lynchpool, and then asks questions about it.
#707 asks for activity from ullar and shubaka with tags
#728 he admits to scumreading shubaka for not idling (when shub meta is apparently "an idle master")
#730 so he's attacking josh for retracting a day 1 copclaim with 4 results....? Even I can tell that a day 1 copclaim with 4 results is just screwing around
mkay I don't understand that at all. I'll just take it as an emotional outburst mocking josh for now.
which is highly defensive btw
#752 votes shubaka, without reasons in this post. apparently he's given reasons before.
#755, #757 explains to knights that he's already answered the latter's question.
#812 he complains about the game being slow... WHY GAME BE FASTER TODAY ;___;
#832 switches vote to ullar, once again no reasons. but this time he definitely has not explained before
so uh..? He's accusing of Texas of wanting to lynch him for information? (that's an acceptable thing)
He then goes on to say that he doesn't care if town works together, as long as we lynch scum.. That's not how town works last I checked.
#859 he attacks texas some more. This post feels more like OMGUS than anything else.
#959 empty quote. I like how 2 of his consequent posts are exactly 100 apart xD
#967 he asks "Why do you keep saying "king lynch has too much resistance" but then you switch your vote to other people." which is a ridiculous question because a player is going to try and make his vote count towards lynching scum instead of sitting in a lonely going-nowhere wagon.
#971 He clarifies that he started the haruno wagon. Can I just say that a Haruno lynch day 1 gives 0 information. HE DOES HIS BEST TO FUCK AROUND D1 OF NOCS
#973 more quotes without commentary yay!
#977 Another one, after which Asek calls him out on it.
#988 Responds to knight's promise to do a reads aggregation on him by saying that he'll probably be dead by then.
Not really a useful response since a reads aggregation is still useful after the target dies. Heck, its arguably actually more informative after that player flips.
But from his perspective it will be useless by then since it wouldn't have "saved him" or whatever (I'm quoting myself there)
#1011 attacks josh for having more than 1 lynch candidate...?
#1015 blatantly calls for texas/josh to be lynched, with a preference towards Texas. OMGUS much?
#1018 claims that texas's posts (a lot of which were attacking king_) were largely filler, but doesn't quote anything to point at. Once more attacks josh for having more than 1 lynch candidate.
Am I reading this wrong o-o? Is he actually attacking josh for reading/paying attention to his posts? ....................?????????????
ok deadline is like here so I don't have time to go through the last 10 pages of this thread lol
my verdict: my vote stays on king
Texas + josh is ringing a big bell, but idk if its a townbell or scumbell dammit
5 minutes to deadline
im just gonna read king and hitmonleet's posts in the last half hour to see cause i dont think enough ppl are here to make an iso of texas worthwhile plus i could find him less scummy upon a proper reading and not want to push for it; i intend to look closely at him tomorrow tho but theres just not enough time this day
KING
rvs shubaka
"Josh is like the second coming of Haruno but I read him as town. Haruno on the other hand is playing worst than usual and as stupid as usual. He seems like to easy of a lynch but I think he deserves it for his constant shifty play. Texas is kind of weird for me since he went for the vote on Haruno early most likely because of his emotions and that Haruno is an easy lynch target. Asek is also one of my scum reads atm. "
this seems like a weird post for scum!king to make, if he knows haruno is an easy mislynch why does he bother pointing it out as scum? i dont feel that king's scumgame is advanced enough he'd be trying to earn towncred by defending haruno assuming he's going to be mislynched anyway
scumread on asek: he gave a read on Shubaka based off of one oc performance and didn't really mention shubs other nocs, goes on to list most likely to be lynched (aubisio, shubaka, me) so far has voted for 2 of us which I see as going for easy targets. Also gut is telling me he's not good atm
tbh i feel like the josh v king spat on p8 is antagonized more by josh than by king. king definitely threw some shade at josh but josh's reaction is sort of overblowing the exchange.
"you're getting roped today and I'm tunnelling you until that happens. particularly because of the underlined." this quote by josh seems particularly unhelpful, i get josh is now scumreading king but to knowingly tunnel seems exceedingly useless as town. a lot of what king gets called out on is his uselessness to town but tunneling on king FOR being useless (and scummy) also feels like an excuse to just kind of sit back and let the day go by without doing anything else. idk. this whole exchange makes josh look worse than king to me, personally.
"My townreads
Shubaka , Texas
Scumreads
Haruno , Asek"
votes haruno
i feel like this post is bad by king, what happened to his spat with josh it gets no mention here and why does king scumread haruno/not vote asek who he has explained. i rly hate how king hides behind "im not good at posting reasons" as an excuse to not contribute anything, pokeguy-era flyhn also did this and it was annoying af then too.
aubisio callout
moodycloud defends king and questions the reasons for the king wagon calling it out as too easy in #291 ; if king is mafia look @ moody
haruno townreads king
king asks walrein for his opinion, asek questions why walrein was singled out, king "woe is me" replies
im running otu of time but king seems to formulate a scumread on walrein after more singular callouts for no real reason. he rly doesnt seem to like asek and ofc gets into it with ullar. the guy's noc meta as any alignment is to get into spats but i feel like he's pissing acid here on people grilling him more than he would as town.
walrein townread king. king voted ullar despite wanting haruno lynched more i think bc he didnt feel the haruno wagon was going to gain proper EoD traction
both walrein and jalmont voted haruno before king switched off ullar. knights also switched to haruno before king moved back to his original scumread.
honestly this seems weird for a scum to move unless he didnt want a tie. i get that haruno is the scumread king was pushing more and he finally felt there was enough traction but as scum he should be fine with either haruno or ullar dying. i dont see why he lurks EoD to switch to haruno.
then king makes a $#!% post like this: I don't recall strong reads on him but I saw his name pop up here and there
when walrein asks about the haruno bw.... despite king having just said he'd rather lynch haruno than ullar. king WAS the strong read on him, why does he brush this off?
KING
rvs shubaka
"Josh is like the second coming of Haruno but I read him as town. Haruno on the other hand is playing worst than usual and as stupid as usual. He seems like to easy of a lynch but I think he deserves it for his constant shifty play. Texas is kind of weird for me since he went for the vote on Haruno early most likely because of his emotions and that Haruno is an easy lynch target. Asek is also one of my scum reads atm. "
this seems like a weird post for scum!king to make, if he knows haruno is an easy mislynch why does he bother pointing it out as scum? i dont feel that king's scumgame is advanced enough he'd be trying to earn towncred by defending haruno assuming he's going to be mislynched anyway
scumread on asek: he gave a read on Shubaka based off of one oc performance and didn't really mention shubs other nocs, goes on to list most likely to be lynched (aubisio, shubaka, me) so far has voted for 2 of us which I see as going for easy targets. Also gut is telling me he's not good atm
tbh i feel like the josh v king spat on p8 is antagonized more by josh than by king. king definitely threw some shade at josh but josh's reaction is sort of overblowing the exchange.
"you're getting roped today and I'm tunnelling you until that happens. particularly because of the underlined." this quote by josh seems particularly unhelpful, i get josh is now scumreading king but to knowingly tunnel seems exceedingly useless as town. a lot of what king gets called out on is his uselessness to town but tunneling on king FOR being useless (and scummy) also feels like an excuse to just kind of sit back and let the day go by without doing anything else. idk. this whole exchange makes josh look worse than king to me, personally.
"My townreads
Shubaka , Texas
Scumreads
Haruno , Asek"
votes haruno
i feel like this post is bad by king, what happened to his spat with josh it gets no mention here and why does king scumread haruno/not vote asek who he has explained. i rly hate how king hides behind "im not good at posting reasons" as an excuse to not contribute anything, pokeguy-era flyhn also did this and it was annoying af then too.
aubisio callout
moodycloud defends king and questions the reasons for the king wagon calling it out as too easy in #291 ; if king is mafia look @ moody
haruno townreads king
king asks walrein for his opinion, asek questions why walrein was singled out, king "woe is me" replies
im running otu of time but king seems to formulate a scumread on walrein after more singular callouts for no real reason. he rly doesnt seem to like asek and ofc gets into it with ullar. the guy's noc meta as any alignment is to get into spats but i feel like he's pissing acid here on people grilling him more than he would as town.
walrein townread king. king voted ullar despite wanting haruno lynched more i think bc he didnt feel the haruno wagon was going to gain proper EoD traction
both walrein and jalmont voted haruno before king switched off ullar. knights also switched to haruno before king moved back to his original scumread.
honestly this seems weird for a scum to move unless he didnt want a tie. i get that haruno is the scumread king was pushing more and he finally felt there was enough traction but as scum he should be fine with either haruno or ullar dying. i dont see why he lurks EoD to switch to haruno.
then king makes a $#!% post like this: I don't recall strong reads on him but I saw his name pop up here and there
when walrein asks about the haruno bw.... despite king having just said he'd rather lynch haruno than ullar. king WAS the strong read on him, why does he brush this off?
Votecount
King_ (6): Moodycloud, Fort Colorcastle, Josh, Asek, Texas Cloverleaf, Empoof
Hitmonleet (5): Ironic Double, KnightsofCydonia, Hawkie, Blazade, King_
Texas Cloverleaf (2) Yeti, Pancake
Not Voting (1): Hitmonleet
King_ (6): Moodycloud, Fort Colorcastle, Josh, Asek, Texas Cloverleaf, Empoof
Hitmonleet (5): Ironic Double, KnightsofCydonia, Hawkie, Blazade, King_
Texas Cloverleaf (2) Yeti, Pancake
Not Voting (1): Hitmonleet
I voted for king
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