NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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Fort Colorcastle said:
careful there with the insults.

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Josh x Yeti I'm very sure is not SvS. I want to say its TvT honestly, but I'm not sure. If I were to point out a scum from the two, I'd lynch josh.

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Multiple people have called out shubaka / jalmont defending each other at this point (Knights certainly has been hamming it, and Yeti said something about it last page)
Why don't we lynch from those two? I don't really want to lynch either josh or Yeti today.

let's put my vote where my mouth is
Lynch Jalmont

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someone needs to spoonfeed me hitmonleet's scumminess; his posts haven't left too much of an impression on me, but I might've skimmed the super scumtells on accident rip
If your only reason is that he was "lurking eod" then the Jalmont-Shubaka Nonaggression Pact is a much better basis for a lynch. (yes its more of a defense pact but shhhh)
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Fort Colorcastle said:
Multiple people have called out shubaka / jalmont defending each other at this point (Knights certainly has been hamming it, and Yeti said something about it last page)
Why don't we lynch from those two? I don't really want to lynch either josh or Yeti today.

let's put my vote where my mouth is
Lynch Jalmont
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Fort Colorcastle said:
Lynch Jalmont
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Do we tell him?
 
i think hes trying to derpclear but im not buying it

i need to read into this yeti josh thing but i really cant be bothered rn can someone give me the tldr?

ill do more analysis tomorrow (as in the day not the cycle) when i have a day off
 
I like what Yeti is saying about King. While I think King did make some improvement in stating his reads this time around, the ad hominem bullshit that's been shown in this game is exactly why King never went into my scumpile.

Setting a player as automatic PL material means that player's skills will never improve. And after they get stuck in that cycle of try and get swatted down, it's too easy for the lack of improvement to be used as justification for that player being automatic PL material or for any signs of improvement to be labeled as a scumtell and thus also be used as justification for PL.
 
lol @ anyone who feels sympathy for king. i try to get that guy to flesh himself out and he just responds back with bullshit. he doesnt deserve any sympathy for his retarded victim complex that he is in no way entitled to hold.
 
i find it kind of disengenuous yeti didnt speak up about king yesterday (said theres reasons to scumread him like just before deadline...) then today starts ranting about obvious town and retarded mislynch
 
Asek said:
i find it kind of disengenuous yeti didnt speak up about king yesterday (said theres reasons to scumread him like just before deadline...) then today starts ranting about obvious town and retarded mislynch
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i think thats fair but its also bc i hadnt had a chance to properly read the thread.

now that ive seen d1 (or at least king's big fights) i think it was an absolutely stupid lynch; however i do get why ppl might still scumread him if you take his town fights out of it.

i dont think he deserves much sympathy but i think he does deserve room to grow and stop saying his stupid defeatist "im so stupid" crap which pisses me off just as much to see. that said, i absolutely wouldnt have been willing to lynch him just off that. i dont think its alignment indicative for him to do that; just annoying af he does.

i also didnt have time to read the thread before deadline and was afk for most of the hours between my subbing in and even the postponed deadline. had deadline been the next day i wouldve come to the conclusion king was an obvious mislynch with more time.
 
uhh i quoted haruno because i was pulling all the noteworthy posts from when i was asleep and laying thoughts out on them idg why ur asking this question
 
Hawkie said:
i really feel yeti as scum atm since he subbed in to me it's felt like he's gave commentary on the game/predicted mislynches while not doing anything proactive at all
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i mean i had like 2 hours total on d2 to do anything??? all i can do is play catch up and comment on d1 posts i missed other people were live for. i wasnt following this game closely up to when twin begged for a sub, it wouldve been poor play by me to attempt to BE proactive on anything d2. i put a couple votes out there from my skims before subbing in just to put my opinion out. im still rereading the thread to formulate opinions to be proactive ABOUT.

this is inconsistent with my usual meta but i dont think ive ever subbed into a noc and been in the position of playing catch up before i could do anything bigger dick.

im really not sure what you want me to be pushing rn when im only on p18 lol
 
gonna agree with that asek post the ironicdouble post is junk.

i havent gotten to where id subbed in for fh in my read yet and i guess i just also never see fh as scummy bc the dude posts whatever tf he wants or thinks which i dont believe he'd do as mafia if he was trying to not get scumread, so my current read on that slot is town.

i greatly dislike how id has just parked his vote on leet 2 days in a row and been content with that. it feels very "ok i voted the scummy guy! dont ask for more!" to me.

i guess it'd fit with how josh plays in being content to just stick with 1 dude for the lynch that day but i dont see it as very village-minded.

im def interested for when fh gets subbed out and id starts posting bc i feel like im gonna have two very disparate opinions of this slot, unlike shubaka-empoof or pblade-pancake where i find i have a more consistent town read on each
 
the aubisio-dle-fort slot is rly hard to read bc fort keeps trying to derpclear, aubisio Actually made posts ?!?!!?!?! but then drops off the radar and i havent gotten to dle subbing in yet iirc. at the least he hasnt made a post. ill form a stronger opinion once i see whatever dle had to say before subbing.
 
I want to look over Papercake still, because icr Pancake mentioning bussing in any of his pushes on Texas. And while I appreciate Yeti dropping some hard truth on how nobody is helping King with the King D1 lynch meme, I want to reread popcorn for comparison.
 
feel like knights is scum for his continuous weird defense of king as being bad lynch, but not of any of the other usual suspects who got put in that situation this game, notably haruno whom he casted a pretty telling momentum vote on
 
Not going to change my opinion of D1 being a bad time to talk about setup and PRs. Not going to deny that I thought Haruno's focus on it to the point of trying to get other players to focus on it had possible scum agenda behind it.
 
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