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NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins
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1593 - 1600 is a lot of yeti content. i find the voting pattern analysis interesting at leaast. the 1600 one is especially interesting in that is hows a town read developing on tex whilst a scum read developing on josh post texas losing a tr on josh and even voting him - it is bizarre for 2 town to be coming to these conclucsions in this manner... the ironicdouble post outta nowhere is the second vote on this wagon tho (after myself iirc) which is noteworthy
moody came to same conclusion i did as per #1609 that josh yeti is tvt and i would agree with you its dangerous to assume this - however it is assuredly not svs
1613 hitmonleet post is fine
moody on 1618 says hed rrather take a look at certain slots - i think moody rlly needs to push on his reads a bit more if he wants others to see where hes going / for them to gain any kind of momentum
1623 pancake doubles down on texas scumread. i can see why hes scumreading texas but i dont rlly agree with it, i have grievances with tex for largely other reasons
texas follows yeti onto ironic double on 1630....
1639 yeti raises an interesting point from my pov and its just that it feels like ironic double is another hitmon esque poster but fsr is refusing to post anything substantial ever since i started wagon on him?
1642 reads tonally very towny (leet)
knights off wagon on empoof for reasoning i dont rlly get. is 'chainsawing' when people attack those that scum read the other? thats my understanding of it and i dont think scum!shubaka is calculated enough to be doing that with a teammate. i think its more likely he got buddied or some shit but i havent read too much into it / considered the interaction meaningful i guess.....
idg what fort is saying on 1648
moody came to same conclusion i did as per #1609 that josh yeti is tvt and i would agree with you its dangerous to assume this - however it is assuredly not svs
1613 hitmonleet post is fine
moody on 1618 says hed rrather take a look at certain slots - i think moody rlly needs to push on his reads a bit more if he wants others to see where hes going / for them to gain any kind of momentum
1623 pancake doubles down on texas scumread. i can see why hes scumreading texas but i dont rlly agree with it, i have grievances with tex for largely other reasons
texas follows yeti onto ironic double on 1630....
1639 yeti raises an interesting point from my pov and its just that it feels like ironic double is another hitmon esque poster but fsr is refusing to post anything substantial ever since i started wagon on him?
1642 reads tonally very towny (leet)
knights off wagon on empoof for reasoning i dont rlly get. is 'chainsawing' when people attack those that scum read the other? thats my understanding of it and i dont think scum!shubaka is calculated enough to be doing that with a teammate. i think its more likely he got buddied or some shit but i havent read too much into it / considered the interaction meaningful i guess.....
idg what fort is saying on 1648
Thetwinmasters can we please get a vc
Back.
Asek asking what chainsawing is when I've explained it with links multiple times is...
Asek asking what chainsawing is when I've explained it with links multiple times is...
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Hitmonleet (5): Pancake, Ironic Double, Josh, Texas Cloverleaf, Empoof
Empoof (2): Fort Colorcastle, KnightsofCydonia
Ironic Double (2): Yeti, Moodycloud
Texas Cloverleaf (1): Hitmonleet
Not Voting (3): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek
Hitmonleet (5): Pancake, Ironic Double, Josh, Texas Cloverleaf, Empoof
Empoof (2): Fort Colorcastle, KnightsofCydonia
Ironic Double (2): Yeti, Moodycloud
Texas Cloverleaf (1): Hitmonleet
Not Voting (3): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek
One day you'll have to look past that moment and look at all my other moments
town empoof on 1656
knights read post on 1658 reads way too consensus with just a random ass empoof scumread thrown in that is still going off of this 1 interaction that nobody else rlly sees the importance in
yeti on 1672 is a furhter push of narrative that i established that ullar raging = scum ullar when this wasnt my case at all. if you read back to my initial wallpost you can see that i scumread him for a differant reason
idrc for most of this 'if yeti gets to lylo' talk its kind of weird and unhelpful and makes me wonder why people would start such talk?
dunno what yeti seeks to gain with 1677
1678 knights says levle of distrust and treating others as potential scum = town but uhhh scum have to basically treat most of the game as scum to win as well so this is a bit of a logical disconnect imo
1693 knights says he wont sheep a player who felt king was a good lynch like lol that was half the game and you were hardly the most vocal opposition to king beign lynched?
i have to agree w. josh i think yeti has pocketed knights but i knights as an indivudal is rapidly falling in my estimations so ehhhh
>>>>betting money on mafia game
basically at the end of page 69 (LOL!) knights has fallen a shit tonnne in my books as far as read progression goes
knights read post on 1658 reads way too consensus with just a random ass empoof scumread thrown in that is still going off of this 1 interaction that nobody else rlly sees the importance in
yeti on 1672 is a furhter push of narrative that i established that ullar raging = scum ullar when this wasnt my case at all. if you read back to my initial wallpost you can see that i scumread him for a differant reason
idrc for most of this 'if yeti gets to lylo' talk its kind of weird and unhelpful and makes me wonder why people would start such talk?
dunno what yeti seeks to gain with 1677
1678 knights says levle of distrust and treating others as potential scum = town but uhhh scum have to basically treat most of the game as scum to win as well so this is a bit of a logical disconnect imo
1693 knights says he wont sheep a player who felt king was a good lynch like lol that was half the game and you were hardly the most vocal opposition to king beign lynched?
i have to agree w. josh i think yeti has pocketed knights but i knights as an indivudal is rapidly falling in my estimations so ehhhh
>>>>betting money on mafia game
basically at the end of page 69 (LOL!) knights has fallen a shit tonnne in my books as far as read progression goes
i think you really overstate the importance of one tell in determining a players alignment. scumtells dont result in slamdunk lynches - i think if you rlly want to prove a case on the slot u need to provide me with more then 1 scumtell that is kind of vague and not really that strong of a consideration for me
Also if you want my past scum games I will willingly provide. It's a lot of reading though
knights is 100% overtunneling onto shubaka for that one tell. esp as i pointed out most of the other ones done on the page he linked for the defense are hallmarks of several smogon players' town metas. this site just doesnt seem to scumtell like wherever tf his link is sourced from. at all. knights himself will do setup spec which the link says is scummy.
ive already said why i hard townread shubaka.
but also tunneling is NAI esp on this site where town always go down a boneheaded path kek
ive already said why i hard townread shubaka.
but also tunneling is NAI esp on this site where town always go down a boneheaded path kek
Like I've said before, dl is pretty late my time, so I won't be on for actual deadline, but I'll try to be around as long as I can.
hey
what do you think about your wagon
im gonna skimread the rest aint got time for shit i been called into work again today (unfortunately) so planning on studying earlier then expected :x
i will analyse this big josh post he spoke about tho
So here I'm going to coach you through this.
When town have made up their mind about lynching someone, it's usually common practice to the person getting lynched to leave a Legacy. You put down all your strongest reads in one place, and how you think the game should go if a lynch would go through on you. You've talked about some of your reads, but it's important for maybe getting a glimpse of if actually town and we end up changing our mind, or after your flip to look at your perspective and see if it can help us in any way.
Or you can hardclaim scum and post pictures of cats, which is super fun and in this position won't be considered gamethrowing
You know man, your excessive tunneling of me is going to look super scummy once I die.
Also, I've, frankly, resigned myself to my fate. Since it seems everyone will just ignore my thoughts and questions to get off a free mislynch.
I think my wagon is equal parts idiot town sheeping and scum trying to stealthily mislynch.
Also, I've, frankly, resigned myself to my fate. Since it seems everyone will just ignore my thoughts and questions to get off a free mislynch.
I think my wagon is equal parts idiot town sheeping and scum trying to stealthily mislynch.
unvote Yeah, I let that ride for a little too long.
Tbh, I was looking for activity that might prove a hypothesis on a possible response to the kill-less N2. I thought that scum, having failed last night, might try to push their failed nk as a lynch today.
I was expecting a wagon from the blue and I'm not sure if wagons with past cases on them count.
Tbh, I was looking for activity that might prove a hypothesis on a possible response to the kill-less N2. I thought that scum, having failed last night, might try to push their failed nk as a lynch today.
I was expecting a wagon from the blue and I'm not sure if wagons with past cases on them count.
who are you talking to here?
asek hard defended you d2, empoof only just voted you, and ive been waffling over if youre scum or not all day.
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Hitmonleet (5): Pancake, Ironic Double, Josh, Texas Cloverleaf, Empoof
Empoof (1): Fort Colorcastle
Ironic Double (2): Yeti, Moodycloud
Texas Cloverleaf (1): Hitmonleet
Not Voting (4): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek, KnightsofCydonia
Hitmonleet (5): Pancake, Ironic Double, Josh, Texas Cloverleaf, Empoof
Empoof (1): Fort Colorcastle
Ironic Double (2): Yeti, Moodycloud
Texas Cloverleaf (1): Hitmonleet
Not Voting (4): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek, KnightsofCydonia
Right this isn't quite what I meant. This is just called shade, and your tone and intent behind this don't look good so of course we're not going to take it as seriously post death (since you're resigned). Calm collected analysis was more what I was looking for
Currently it's known that there are only 3 scum left alive from the setup, so there have to be minimum 2 town who are on your wagon
Yes? I'm not practicing my game 24/7 but I'm stll V/LA and my heart really isn't in it.
I've skimmed the thread over the days and I asked you guys to highlight inportant points for me to respond to but this tag doesn't even have any content.
I thought I'd be able to do better over this week but catching up is going to be a lot more difficult than i envisioned with this volume of posting. Thetwinmasters if you can manage it I would like to be subbed.
Not confident in that happening so in the meantime I'm getting tired of being simply prodded rather than engaged with.
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