NOC Animal Mafia ~Game Over~

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I will add that the "one post every 72h" rule or whatever it was is bullshit and is powerless to cleanse this game from players making one token irrelevant post per day in an effort to make this an unenjoyable experience. Metal Sonic Da Letter El please take charge and do something.

any sort of posting requirement is even more bs. they are incredibly easy to get around and don't really solve any of the problems - at the very least it forces subs for inactives which is a good thing.

the way we deal with these sort of situations is we lynch them, preferably before it gets down to the point where we really need a maf lynch and LYLO as well
 
any sort of posting requirement is even more bs. they are incredibly easy to get around and don't really solve any of the problems - at the very least it forces subs for inactives which is a good thing.

the way we deal with these sort of situations is we lynch them, preferably before it gets down to the point where we really need a maf lynch and LYLO as well
Unfortunately this is the angle we will probably have to take bar host intervention. Obligatory tag to Hawkie Haruno DurzaOffTopic be relevant or get bopped.
 
still waiting for you to explain how #726 isn't desperate deflection
Ngl, you've played enough you should probably already know why.

But anyways, mafia 101. Scum usually like to take the 3-4th position on wagons because it allows them to propell forward a lynch that isn't them while also not leading it, thus avoiding detection. Especially with their info less post lynches, KOC and Apricity have set themselves up as textbook scum cases here. That said, Earlio and 3pik are also particularly bad since their reasoning is highly fluff, but I guess KOC/Apricity ping me more for their effortless wagoning.
 
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Town former hope actively game solves, comes up with crackpot theories and works with people

Scum former hope pushes people for anything questionable to keep the Lynch pool wide and works to destabilize town leadership/global town reads

You forget the part of what I typically do day 1, fuck around and provoke and see the reactions that follow. I didn't have a day 1 in this game so I'm subsituting today for that.
 
What I'm not doing is kissing butt since there are enough decent players here to realize that this lynch reeks to hell of a mislynch.

What you aren't doing, if you are town, is considering other suspects rather than sheeping to the one obviously bad wagon
 
Going through day 3 and noting stuff I see
Oh right blazade subbed

vote xnadrojx

I actually do like this post by Texas on the surface. But then taking a 2nd look at it, this reads as weird to me. From what I gather, he was scum reading the blazade slot not just trying to push it for activity. So this sudden switch here is *super* weird to me. Like, if you scum read the slot for what reason would you switch your vote off of it just because of a sub if you actually had a genuine scum read on that slot.

Huh. Was the target selection most random?
Wanting to know why they were targeted isn't the most unusual thing. Though the "OMGUS" that follows is

I’m a little lost. What are your reads on me and XX? The way I would’ve used the role, is to redirect someone I’m town reading to someone I’m scumreading. But I don’t see why you’d be townreading xna
I don't know what to think of this one honestly. Because frankly that strategy of redirecting someone you are town reading makes no sense. Why would you possibly mess up their action when instead you could mess up the strategy of a possible scum mate by redirecting someone who might be scum to someone else who might be scum, meaning you either mess up a persuade, hook or whatever else the mafia might have (though prized above all, redirecting a kill onto another scum would have been amazing


3P1K How did you go from saying Twin was lock town from Asek's flip to strongly considering lynching him ?
What was the reasoning behind you voting Jordan at eod rather than Blazade since you've said you believed in a Blazade+Twin scum team ?

I second the persuader claiming now
Some good questions, but feels rather shallow to me. Then backs the idiotic idea of having the persuader claim just so if they are town they can be mislynch bait.

Those posts are bs and the "Mixed thoughts on Jalmont and Knights, but apricity is also pretty scummy." line is as opaque and dodgy as it gets
lynch Jordan
This is a pretty bad post for moody. At least in XX's second quoted post he makes a world of sense, hawkie is the kind of player who very easily earns a town read no matter what his alignment (read: last NOC), well at least the middle bit makes sense. The 1st and last line are mildly confusing out of context but not knowing hte context, they feel more like someone trying to play and not knowing how vs scum.
If you are town and idling, know that you are making yourself mislynch bait and are actively hurting town's chances of victory
he says, having been one of the ones lynching after idlers....
Man, you’re just scum this game aren’t you?

If persuader doesn’t claim then we know it’s a maf role, so if a tracker/watcher/rolecop hits the persuader then we have a guilty.
more weird af logic but that's not really alig
Was litterally typing a relatively cynical post to this before apricity stole my thunder. So instead i'll be productive and get your thoughts since i dont get to have any fun >:(
Top three SRs and top 2 TRs go
oh this is where you asked that. ngl I straight up didn't actually read this full post when it was new it seemed so fluff.

If persuader exists and they are town then the point in them claiming now is that we don't just lynch them no questions asked when they're cornered into claiming and claim town persuade at eod ?
We'd also get some amount of confirmation that the persuader exists, which is relevant
Honestly, this post is very nearly a scum slip. The way I'm honestly reading this is that Moody knows the persuader is town and wants them to claim so they can either get a handle on them or they can then cause a mislynch onto them since if a persuader does claim, town has no way of knowing their alignment .... unless you were scum and knew scum didn't have a persuader.
I think you're both scum bud

And I'm more confident in jordan whose flip has direct implications on your alignment

Or at least I was

That post made your scumminess crystal clear so thanks for that

Town former hope actively game solves, comes up with crackpot theories and works with people

Scum former hope pushes people for anything questionable to keep the Lynch pool wide and works to destabilize town leadership/global town reads

Take a guess which of the above his post matches
Okay, this is actually a straight up awful post in context. He's responding saying
"I think this person is scum so let's lynch someone else first so I can cause more mislynches" is what I read
this post is some how making me = scum crystal clear however I can't even fathom how that would be the case since it's just a post pointing out the massive dissonance in texas's post. Seems like OMGUS at best and just a scum post at worst.

lynch former hope
vote Former
Between these weird votes, at least apricity has prior (even if weak) reasons to do it. KOC here has the strange vote considering their latest read was 'weak scumread' and so without explaining reasoning for

Cool thats all i wanted unvote former hope
amaze me!
Weird hop on/hop off, but I guess I can see the town in this. I feel like scum would want to commit to the lynch more than hop off early. Plus, the danger there is low I guess. So I see this post as being somewhat towny since it doesn't fir the
hi how many scum are dead? D:
iirc 0. Haruno popping his head into here is probably ever so slighly towny since I guess, well honestly that's probably just null. I was going to say it was towny since scum can probably get an idea of what's happening from a scum chat but this level of effort can be so easily faked that it's not really indicative either way.
I'm considering Jordan and will lynch them either before or after you if they don't post and persuade me otherwise
See, this post is just the worst. He sets it up as being apart of the 'blazade/jordan' theory but then blatantly states here that he doesnt' care a
If you are town and we mislynch you, you should still be giving us your reads btw
Similarly, this post comes off as wanting to be town. But in reality, let's face it. Someone who subbed in providing a reads list doesn't help town at all. As town and hell, as someone who has been confirmed to be a redirector I have what I've posted here and if I do end up getting mislynched, there 0 reason why town should follow my uninformed reads.

Okay, reread of the day complete so reads anyways

Aubisio - Did they post today? I honestly can't recall, seems more like idling aubisio which isn't really a suprise. - Null
Thetwinmasters - Same as above, can't recall a single post from them - also null
Haruno - Poked his head in at least. But I mean, I also know he's busy in rl so I guess he has an excuse but still I'm with most people in that this slot needs to be active for better reads - ...yet another null
Earlio - Admits to sheeping and sheeps for weird reasons. Lean scum, and like I said before I think if texas is scum Earlio is a good partner for them.
DurzaOffTopic - Will be subbed
Jalmont - I townread honestly. Besides just his position being what I think is anti scum right now, the drama early on feels like it's not something scum would want to do since it attracts a lot of attention. but you really really really need to explain the persuader thing (also disclaimer, I read the drama parts when I wasn't in the game so take that as you will)
Whydon - Townread, if you don't town read this slot then you need to read more carefully.
3P1K - slight town read for the train hopping. Otherwise seems to be inclined to getting info rather than join the bandwagon craze.
Blazade - oh wait that's my slot. I guess I'm not actually playing? Well that makes this awkward
Mithril - Also can't recall seeing anything from them. - null
XnadrojX - Okay, this is a weird slot. People have been saying they think them scum, but frankly, having read today I can't remmeber any of their posts...much less things that ping me. I think for this slot, I'd want to see more activity from them before making an actual read, but going off the posts they've had quoted from other people, nothing honestly struck me as extrodinarily scummy or even anything that would say scum vs newby town. I'd want to see more of them, but frankly, this slot is fairly null (ftr, like I said before, the reason I redirected him wasn't so much because of my own read, but because I was lazy and did a quick scan through of the past few pages to gander at a scum I could redirect in case I died).
Asek - Also needs to post more... wow people weren't kidding this game is filled with idlers, and asek usually isn't one of them so I guess light scumread.
MoodyCloud - Scumread. Their behavior throughout today reads hard to me like a mafia who is trying to pretend to be active, but on the whole has really bad arguments and reasoning and more so, supports things with little substanative reason to do so.
Hawkie - Well just got subbed so null for now.
KnightsofCydonia - Slight scum read, like I said before. Their lynch on me felt like it was very scum driven but I don't have much beyond that on this slot.
apricity - I think I actually genuinely scum read this slot more than just gut scum read. They are similar to moody in that they've had weird af posts. HOWEVER honestly, their weirdness feels too close to moody for them to be scum together and I'm inclined to think that KOC and apricity wouldn't both, as scum, post that way back to back. So scum read, but depending on how KOC/Moody flip I could see it changing (Moody flips town - apricity scum, moody flipping scum - apricity town. KOC flip town - apricity scum, KOC flip scum - apricity town).
Thunder~BALLZ - Needs to be subbed. Hard null.

Why is there no texas on the player list? Probably like blazade they weren't replaced by their sub on the list so oh well.

Bonus round
Texas - Scum read. Like I said before, I feel like in this game scum have taken an active role in misleading village to encourage mislynches and texas's behavior fits right into that. Besides encouraging lynches for extremely, uncharactically, weak reasoning and being wishy washy on them for that weak reasoning. There's his intro reads post that I recall seeing. Now I don't actually remember that post since I wasn't caring when I actually read it...but here's some interesting info.

When MS has been subbing people, he's been doing it in such a way that people know who they are subbing in for before they do it, and they have time before they sub because MS waits for their confirmation before doing it. What this means, is if texas believed he was going to be subbing into a scum slot he had time before he was in the game and learned teammates to go back and get reads that are entirely neutral, after all he would legitimatlly not know who scum are yet he can then join as scum and post that, faking a pro town reads list that in all honesty should be null. Now I respect texas enough as a player to think he could guess when he might be subbing into a scum slot if he was following this game so I see this as a likely scenario that adds further to the texas = scum idea.

Anyways
town: Jalmont, Whydon, 3p1k and maybe maybe maybe haruno?
scum: earlio, moody, KOC, Apricity and texas
idlers/null: everyone else

voting time, amongst those. I feel most confidant honestly between moody/texas though between them, I think moody being scum could clear apricity for me. So lynch moody
 
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