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NOC The Mafia Invitational (Game Thread) [D2 Deadline: Friday, March 2nd, 6 PM EST]

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MoodyCloud said:
Twin was pushing you because you said you had caught up and read around 20 pages yet did not comment on anything in particular or attempt to read people. The point is that you made joke posts when content was expected, not that your joke posts contained a secret scum tell
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First of all that's weak af. Second, that's still no excuse for coming out of the woodworks, throwing super softball questions and then vanishing.

Also he did clearly say scumread, not that he wanted to see more content. This post by moody is doing some work in trying to retcon twin's behavior :smogthink:
 
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everyone dle said "no AI posts" about is town and i do believe he isnt engaged with the game, i believe he didnt care to do anything to sort these ppl and gave fake no AI reads bc hes scum and knows
 
Eddie Cane's Eddie Cane
A guide to meta diving Eddie Cane

Town
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=72052 - Relevant for this game. I argue against the d1 mislynch, I take control of the game and break it mechanically. Attract the scum kill multiple times. No other mislynches.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=72576 - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9467660#p9467660 represents how the game went. An example of me being the town leader type and bringing cohesion around my 2 scumreads (who happened to be the scum team one subbed because he got mad lol)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=74684 - Technically I can't reply to any questions if there happened to be any because TM is still going on, but the game itself is completed so I can cite it. Dominating Eddie performance.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=74682 - Ditto, and technically my teammate JJ played this game but we played it together pretty much like a hydra. Only linking because it demonstrates us breaking things mechanically which is relevant.
And, some losses:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=73043 - I tunnelled one scum, mastina tunnelled the other. No incorrect reads whatsoever. Unfortunately, a garbage town and a bad setup cost us the game.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73076 - subbed in, scum got obliterated. My play here is not amazing personality wise. lucky ass SK win but I count it as a town win tbqh.




Scum
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=70624 - Frog and I were the two most town read players by FAR and I had him bus me. Clear victory.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=73125 - I had a useless lurker teammate and easily won the game. Two cautious players were ready to cross vote hours into LyLo, that's how well I distanced.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=72998 - I controlled every single lynch when I came back from V/LA D2. Clear victory.


These are games of me doing well. There are games I do poorly in too obviously though recently I've been on the ball. I am complimented all the time on my scum game, much more so than my town game. However, I enjoy playing town much more. I don't think I'm a GoD of mafia, but I consider myself a great player. No, I don't think I can be sorted on meta. The thing is, I hope you understand what I mean by this, but I don't know of any tells I have and I don't think I have any flaws as a scum player. Obviously that isn't true and they exist but if I'm made aware of them I work hard to fix them. If you are aware of any weaknesses you have as a player and don't correct them, you aren't going to improve. People try to read me, but realistically I don't think I have any meta tells.

That said, that doesn't mean I can't be sorted. Most good players don't have any semi obvious meta tells and there's quite a few that have none or almost none. How I'd suggest to do it is look at my agenda / motivations / etc. The goodies. My scum game is made to look as pro town as possible. If my buddies are acting scummy, I'll push them. If they're acting townie, I'm not going to go out of my way to distance. I'm obviously biased, but I try my best to be honest. I AtE as scum and town. I self meta as scum and town. I do everything as scum and town because if you don't you screw over one of your games. In about 20 town games I was mislynched twice - once was Merlin on here when I was going for the W and once was in Penguin mafia on MS where in the process of lynching me it took 3 scum plus the worst townie you will ever see (vote - unvote fine you can post - wtf that was hammer?) and I caught the scum team and it ended in a 3 in a row scum lynch lylo win for town sheeping me. I've been lynched twice as scum, guiltied both times. The drawbacks in my play are that I'm too cocky and rub people the wrong way, and my reads are only a little above rand as opposed to amazing. I'm good at knowing when my reads are off though and that's where I shine - knowing when who and how to sheep while still advancing the game.

OF course, this is all just imo and others have vastly different opinions of me. I know some players who think I'm dog shit. Lots think I'm mediocre. You asked how to sort me, and this is what I think. Honestly, if you're a cop you should cop me. I think I'm pretty blatantly town here, but paranoia etc shrug. You can honestly BoP me - if I'm strongarming lynches and/or advocating wrong things and we are hitting town over and over I'm probably scum. If we are doing good, I'm probably town.
 
Oh, and to whoever asked about why there's no godfather, this game is built with normal standards on MS. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game are the guidelines. Godfather, Framer, etc are blacklisted. All investigative results will be accurate. Obviously, this doesn't mean you can't ninja a kill or something, but if you're told someone's something they'll be something. Miller is the exception (and no clue why it's normal tbh). Another fun pointer: if there's a second kill in the night it's confirmed Vig or 3p, mafia can't have a second kill in a normal in any capacity (day vigs maybe ? doubt it would happen anyways).
 
That's dope, I approve

I obviously can't read all the games atm but yeah, I knew you were a solid player like a year ago. Good to hear you're flourishing.

I already know my reads are trash this game btw so if both of us are alive day 2 let's tighten rails and dig deep. I'll be isoing kids post flip.

GLGL my dude
 
Now, as for the lynch. This is without going back and isoing and seeing my own thoughts, idr specifics and I despise searching through smogon threads. tiny posts per page, awful isong, cut off posts so you can't ctrl + f, everything hyperlinking... kms.

Proph / Asek / Paper / Emp off the table today. i no lynch before i vote them.
Will not support a wagon of Asek / LW. would hammer.
Yeti / MS is somewhere inbetween above and below
This leaves Walrein / Moody / KoC / FH / DLE. Of these, prefer to lynch in the former 3.

i think i'm blind i keep counting 13 names there but i'm one of them so i have someone twice ???? :I
 
Josh said:
Now, as for the lynch. This is without going back and isoing and seeing my own thoughts, idr specifics and I despise searching through smogon threads. tiny posts per page, awful isong, cut off posts so you can't ctrl + f, everything hyperlinking... kms.

Proph / Paper / Emp off the table today. i no lynch before i vote them.
Will not support a wagon of Asek / LW. would hammer.
Yeti / MS is somewhere inbetween above and below
This leaves Walrein / Moody / KoC / FH / DLE. Of these, prefer to lynch in the former 3.

i think i'm blind i keep counting 13 names there but i'm one of them so i have someone twice ???? :I
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I'm going to trust hammer me. EBWOP.
 
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