NOC Hope+1 Game Thread

Also just wanted to say, no hammer on day 1 is hella scumsided. Didn’t complain about it last game because I was scum but uhhhhhhhh I don’t like it

Seems like if you have a complaint about balancing it would be made prior to game start, especially when you feel it's pro-scum. (Pro-scum rules are more likely to hinder than help you). The fact apricity has waited to voice this opinion gives me the vibe that he is trying to overly demonstrate how towny he is, which is a scum move.
 
Seems like if you have a complaint about balancing it would be made prior to game start, especially when you feel it's pro-scum. (Pro-scum rules are more likely to hinder than help you). The fact apricity has waited to voice this opinion gives me the vibe that he is trying to overly demonstrate how towny he is, which is a scum move.
Nvm this is worse vote duskfall98

The irony of this post which itself is overly verbose to try and demonstrate towniness is almost as ironic as me getting a ticket for warning another driver about a police speed trap by flashing my high beams and signalling a second police cruiser
 
Nvm this is worse vote duskfall98

The irony of this post which itself is overly verbose to try and demonstrate towniness is almost as ironic as me getting a ticket for warning another driver about a police speed trap by flashing my high beams and signalling a second police cruiser

I don't really follow your logic as to how providing adequate reasoning to my suspicion makes me guilty. I prefered to lay out my line of thought so that others may follow and thereby create a discussion. I think this is a lot more effective than for example your previous post where the full reasoning is "I don't believe you" in your read against former hope.

Secondary to this if you think my post is ironic due to its similarity, then surely placing me as a scum read should also place apricity as a scum read. So Im wondering, what's your overall read on apricity?
 
I don't agree with your assessment of his post and I don't find his post to be alignment indicative in any form.

What's interesting to me is that you've targeted him in a manner that you yourself used in your own post; this suggests to me that you're subconsciously projecting your own biases onto him while fabricating a reason to scum read him.
 
I don't agree with your assessment of his post and I don't find his post to be alignment indicative in any form.

What's interesting to me is that you've targeted him in a manner that you yourself used in your own post; this suggests to me that you're subconsciously projecting your own biases onto him while fabricating a reason to scum read him.

His post is inheritly alignment indictive as he admitted so himself, stating his reason for not saying it before was because of his alignment. Perhaps he is not scum which is why I have not yet passed a vote, but there is at least a solid chance that his post was a bluff.

I honestly don't see how me using a train of logic projects myself onto him. However, at least I provided a reason, however fabricated you claim it may be. Both you and apricity made your original votes without any proper reasoning at all. I would argue my reasoning is better than that.
 
Now your conflating correlation and causation, him not previously taking an action because of x does not specifically imply that him now taking said action is related.

And the "logical reasoning" you provide is you using the exact line of thought to attack apricity that you accuse him of doing
 
You haven't really commented on what part of my line of thought correlates with him, only stating that it does. I disagree that this is the case. Perhaps you believe I am overcompensating and trying to push a towny persona of myself. However, even if this was the case my method would in no way have replicated apricity's and your idea of me forcing my bias on him would be incorrect.
 
I don't agree with your assessment of his post and I don't find his post to be alignment indicative in any form.

What's interesting to me is that you've targeted him in a manner that you yourself used in your own post; this suggests to me that you're subconsciously projecting your own biases onto him while fabricating a reason to scum read him.
whats interesting to me is that you're spewing bullshit trying to 'catch mafia' on someone who clearly has no idea how to play mafia and is just making non alignment indicative newbie posts
 
Overall verdict: No significant reason to vote for either party in the argument.
Duskfall is new so picking up on everything and interpreting it as suspicious is to be expected. Although it is a little bit suspicious how he went about it, there's not enough reason for me to vote him.
Texas seems justified in calling out Duskfall, his reasoning is sound and I don't think there's any reason for him to think Duskfall is new. Not in this thread at the very least.
The main scumread I'm getting from this is actually on Metal Sonic. The tone of this:
whats interesting to me is that you're spewing bullshit trying to 'catch mafia' on someone who clearly has no idea how to play mafia and is just making non alignment indicative newbie posts
is saying that Dusk being new is trivial and that anybody that didn't know this who tried to hunt him is likely to be scum. The tone is very antagonistic towards Texas but tbh I don't think he's really in the wrong. I also don't think he'd pick off low hanging fruit this obviously if he was scum, seems a bit more experienced than that to me.

So now that I have gone from no read to small read, I shall pursue the small read a bit.
Unvote: Jayflush
Vote: Metal Sonic

Under normal circumstances, this wouldn't be enough for me to vote. I have no reads on anyone else though so... yeah. Here's the vote.


Also I thought that Former Hope vote was an RVS joke... idk though.
 
Seems like if you have a complaint about balancing it would be made prior to game start, especially when you feel it's pro-scum. (Pro-scum rules are more likely to hinder than help you). The fact apricity has waited to voice this opinion gives me the vibe that he is trying to overly demonstrate how towny he is, which is a scum move.
What if I drew scum again you retard
 
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