NOC There's Actually a Sequel to the Matrix - Day 9 (Deadline Tuesday 10 PM EST)

legit tho i was specifically doing a series of questions that had a purpose to them and you jumping in (assuming you're actually town) just interferes with that and its never beneficial to do so

Starting a line of questioning with are you town isn't helpful imo because the answers are obvious. Something like that is as likely to make a town player say something dumb as a scum player.
 
Starting a line of questioning with are you town isn't helpful imo because the answers are obvious. Something like that is as likely to make a town player say something dumb as a scum player.
this is no longer game relevant but please do not assume you understand what i'm trying to do

starting with "are you town" serves a specific point that sets the tone for the follow up
 
Yeah it's whydon, he has only pushed inactives to me. Also last game I was a very important town player I don't see how he's gonna act like he doesn't know who I am? Bit odd to me he keeps saying me and drookez are the same. Probably not ai though and just me being self aware.
 
I'm not interested in fighting this mislynch so just go ahead. Pretty sure this is a Texas town game so he can just realize after mislynching me twice in a row to get better
FH is now a scum read. I've seen this attitude before and it is very close to scum!fh
Nuxl - null
Duskfall98 - looking scummy, point of pressure
rssp1 - null
apricity - town
asek - town pending review
infernodragon - null pending review, lean town
omroom - town
viper - scummy
texas - town
fh - prob town
whydon - prob town

oddish - town
caffeineboost - town pending review
drookez- null lead scum
3p1k - hard null
pidge - null lean town
Energy - null strongly lean town, reads are terrible and playing exactly like he did as town in the last game
I am interested in the Duskfall read here. I have him as probable town and yet a lot of people seem to have him as scum. I'll have a look at the reasoning provided
32 - town post
45 - town post
58 - post former only makes as scum if he's scared of a hal sheep train
up to 175 - too shitposty, too unconcerned about appearance
179 - memey but probably prescient
234 - don't like, feel like he should have been able to read me by now
278 - bad post
281 - bad post
328 - very very accurate, very towny if dusk is scum
330 - post former would make as scum in this position, not exclusive to scum!fh
402 - most scummy post you've made Former Hope justify this
433 - why are you surprised by whydon bringing up dusk when you thought his post was scummy?
443 - bad post


all the bad posts are bad posts that i think are scummy b/c former should really be better than this when it comes to me but i cant really see them as objectively scummy


symbolically unvoting former hope and voting duskfall

former has made some shit posts (also shitposts) but this is prooobably his town game. if we get to lylo and he's been convincing for a few days in avoiding a lynch he's scum

considering this, don't need to lynch him after all, he's probably town, will get NKed eventually, and if he lives too long he'll get caught by the people who can read him (read: if he looks insanely town he's scum, if he looks like he has today he's town)
I'll have a look at each of the indicated posts after I finish typing up this one. Texas is hard lock town though.
please elaborate on greek myth mafia
He goofed me. I basically got convinced he was town even though he was obvscum and it was the lowest point of my mafia career. Events leading up to that seem to be repeating.
Hello Friends, just catching up by reading page by page so if I take things out of context or am missing important information please do comment and correct. Note that these post may be based on feelings rather than evidence (it's Day 1) so just keep that in mind.

1)

There are some interesting things with this post. By saying that you don't know [hal's] alignment yet, do you have a reliable of method of figuring it out? Are you just waiting for him to flip to follow his reads or are you satisfied if he convince you enough? Anyways, this post kinda points out the obvious so it just seems to me it was done for town cred. Perhaps it's just your playstyle, need to read more.
By the way, I read hal's "random" reads as just day 1 RVS so I didn't think of it much. Maybe this is why Former's post really stuck out.

2) I do agree that vooper's unlynch on hal was weird and perhaps too early of a precaution but i don't think his first lynch was that serious.

3) OM Room please do not rule 8 me thx.

4) rssp1 is literally like never on my faction so he's probably scum. Also why is there 21 pages already on Day 1.'

5) I townread Duskfall. His post include reads with analysis not just information, which was well justified. Oddish also gives me a similar town vibe. The rest so far seems a bit too swingy and random for me to read them, maybe (like really maybe) rssp1 and texas as town.

6) Caf posted a nice readlist but I thought the reasoning was weak.

7) Whydon can you provide reasons for scumreading me

8) Former Hope is really giving me the town mediator vibe which I don't like at all. Again, this could just be a playstyle thing.

Well my effort just collapsed towards the end but yeah these are my thoughts
Anyways in summary: Early reads
Townread: Oddish, Duskfall Semi-Townread: Texas, rssp1 Null: CaffeineBoost Scumlean: FormerHope, Vooper, Whydon
The rest I need a bit more time to process and that should come with my lynch.
HE HAS POSTED AT LONG LAST
Not much to say here. Dusk seems to be an incredibly polarising character so I'm def gonna iso him and see what he's been saying.
Idk what town mediator is.
In what world am I on a scumteam with FH and whydon? Lmao
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Scum team for me rn is: FH/whydon/texas
Having looked over the interaction I would say this this is pure OMGUS. I have no real idea why Texas is on the scum team other than the fact that he's pressuring you. He's not painting you as scum, he's interrogating you.
Reading through pages 24 and 25 right now does give me the impression that maybe Dusk is scummy. His attitude feels a little bit unusual from what I remember and he's clearly feeling uncomfortable with the line of questioning. Kinda like a dog who just got caught shitting on the floor.

Anyway. I'll iso Dusk rn but the read list is as follows:
  1. Nuxl - Lean, no change.
  2. Duskfall98 - Lean. Bad reaction to pressure and slight hints that he's thinking from the point of view of scum. Yet to iso but from those interactions alone Dusk is a very likely candidate for scum.
  3. rssp1 - Lean. Still more of a gut feel. He seems to have a town tone.
  4. Apricity - Null. No change.
  5. Asek - Lean. An active attempt to scumhunt leads me to believe he's probably town. This seems very similar to Greek Myth Mafia and iirc he was town in that as well.
  6. Infernodragon - Null. Not enough to go on.
  7. OM Room - Read. Actively scumhunting, no change.
  8. Viper - Lean. Still not comfortable with his earlier posts but there's stranger.
  9. Texas - Read. Easily town. Again, actively scumhunting + very similar to the town!Texas I know and love.
  10. Former Hope - Lean. Reminding me of scum!FH from Greek Myth Mafia with his defeatist attitude. Nothing super dodgy yet but I dislike the general attitude.
  11. Whydon - Null. Meta on Dusk's scumblock makes me want to think he's town since I feel FH is scum but that's shit reasoning and we all know it.
  12. Oddish - Null.
  13. CaffeineBoost - Slipped. He completely gave away that he was SK. Idiot.
  14. Drookez - Null. Probably town but I'm super shaky.
  15. 3p1k - Null. Idk why people were pushing him earlier but I have no reason to believe he's town either.
  16. Pidge - Null.
  17. Energy - Null. Not gonna bother trying to read this guy for now. He could be scummy town or genuine scum for all I fucking know. He's an enigma.
So posts are flying out a lot rn. Looks like the same shit on a new page. In the mean time I shall place my vote on the person who I think is scummiest.
Vote: Duskfall
Closely followed by FH.
 
I told u fam

it's whydon
lets look at the first couple posts b/c it shows the two minds i have with him

this is kinda not cute?
Is there a reason Inferno doesn’t have any votes/pressure right now
there are both very bad posts (use the arrow to link back to the quote), odd pushes for people in odd situations who havent demonstarted noc skill
has the same awkwardness as pidge’s entry tbh

also sr drookez
but then this kind of justifies it? he's demonstrating consistency that he's seeing awkwardness as a scum tell (which it can be, the trick is determining awkward scummy and awkward awkward). his reads in the first two are definitely not good.tm but i dont see them as scummy per se
 
actually considering the semi-tunnel on drookez this is kind of a bad look
99% sure I mentally combined duskfall and drookez as the same person earlier so kinda for the same reasons but promising to give "good posts" in the future pings me as scum
CAN imply the "any lynch will do" mindset

that said, we (om room) need to be careful not to confbiad things out of context which an iso like this can do
 
FH is now a scum read. I've seen this attitude before and it is very close to scum!fh

I am interested in the Duskfall read here. I have him as probable town and yet a lot of people seem to have him as scum. I'll have a look at the reasoning provided

I'll have a look at each of the indicated posts after I finish typing up this one. Texas is hard lock town though.

He goofed me. I basically got convinced he was town even though he was obvscum and it was the lowest point of my mafia career. Events leading up to that seem to be repeating.

HE HAS POSTED AT LONG LAST
Not much to say here. Dusk seems to be an incredibly polarising character so I'm def gonna iso him and see what he's been saying.
Idk what town mediator is.

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Having looked over the interaction I would say this this is pure OMGUS. I have no real idea why Texas is on the scum team other than the fact that he's pressuring you. He's not painting you as scum, he's interrogating you.
Reading through pages 24 and 25 right now does give me the impression that maybe Dusk is scummy. His attitude feels a little bit unusual from what I remember and he's clearly feeling uncomfortable with the line of questioning. Kinda like a dog who just got caught shitting on the floor.

Anyway. I'll iso Dusk rn but the read list is as follows:
  1. Nuxl - Lean, no change.
  2. Duskfall98 - Lean. Bad reaction to pressure and slight hints that he's thinking from the point of view of scum. Yet to iso but from those interactions alone Dusk is a very likely candidate for scum.
  3. rssp1 - Lean. Still more of a gut feel. He seems to have a town tone.
  4. Apricity - Null. No change.
  5. Asek - Lean. An active attempt to scumhunt leads me to believe he's probably town. This seems very similar to Greek Myth Mafia and iirc he was town in that as well.
  6. Infernodragon - Null. Not enough to go on.
  7. OM Room - Read. Actively scumhunting, no change.
  8. Viper - Lean. Still not comfortable with his earlier posts but there's stranger.
  9. Texas - Read. Easily town. Again, actively scumhunting + very similar to the town!Texas I know and love.
  10. Former Hope - Lean. Reminding me of scum!FH from Greek Myth Mafia with his defeatist attitude. Nothing super dodgy yet but I dislike the general attitude.
  11. Whydon - Null. Meta on Dusk's scumblock makes me want to think he's town since I feel FH is scum but that's shit reasoning and we all know it.
  12. Oddish - Null.
  13. CaffeineBoost - Slipped. He completely gave away that he was SK. Idiot.
  14. Drookez - Null. Probably town but I'm super shaky.
  15. 3p1k - Null. Idk why people were pushing him earlier but I have no reason to believe he's town either.
  16. Pidge - Null.
  17. Energy - Null. Not gonna bother trying to read this guy for now. He could be scummy town or genuine scum for all I fucking know. He's an enigma.
So posts are flying out a lot rn. Looks like the same shit on a new page. In the mean time I shall place my vote on the person who I think is scummiest.
Vote: Duskfall
Closely followed by FH.

yo my guy can you shift plur to whydon for me and then back to duskfall, I'd appreciate it.
 
actually considering the semi-tunnel on drookez this is kind of a bad look

CAN imply the "any lynch will do" mindset

that said, we (om room) need to be careful not to confbiad things out of context which an iso like this can do

I'm focusing on a specific moment I outlined that really colours everything else weirdly
 
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