NOC D6 Mafia Game Thread [Day 4; Deadline June 1 at 6 PM EST]

[Clarinet]

do you want me to hardclaim VT? Cause I'll do it if you really want that official statement, don't think it matters much cause you've made up your mind

and you have scum potential whereas I have 1 confirmed town and 1 player that is widely townread by my side!

 

[Samoyed]

do you want me to hardclaim VT? Cause I'll do it if you really want that official statement, don't think it matters much cause you've made up your mind

and you have scum potential whereas I have 1 confirmed town and 1 player that is widely townread by my side!

bad post, saying who you have on your side just cause they’re confirmed is bad

still would rather kick the caffeine

 

[Clarinet]

if this weren't our last mislynch, I wouldn't care that much

after my flip, you have to take out 3 consecutive scum one after another and that's an impossible task, I've never seen a game where that happens

 

[Clarinet]

if this weren't our last mislynch, I wouldn't care that much

after my flip, you have to take out 3 consecutive scum one after another and that's an impossible task, I've never seen a game where that happens

ah cacophony, we're not allowed to edit tho

 

[apricity]

Vote caff

Checking out for the night. Back in 12 hours

 

[Samoyed]

Vote caff

Checking out for the night. Back in 12 hours

I enjoy this

 

[Hannahh]

I’m the Bodyguard

Finally, tyty Samo

Ordered readslist time

Athena
Lol

Samoyed
Lol
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Duskfall98
I like duskfall here. Idt he tries to pull the lynch to mewtwo at eod when town!marth is about to be lynched bc he risks looking awful and scum!dusk probably fears marth more(?)
Marth and Sam also townread him and I'm inclined to trust them. Only reason I ever revisit this townread is after a Clarinet scumflip bc of his behaviour around the time the clarinet wagon started picking up steam (page 19/20 off the top of my head), but never before then. Actually ig going into today pushing clarinet kinda ruins that world too. Hardest non-bodyguard town.

XnadrojX
Seems pretty town. I'll admit he makes on okayish partner for caf in a scum!caf/town!clar world based on today's clarinet wagon but I agree Clarinet is/was scummy af and I really like most of his posts. High townread

Hannahh
I feel like there was smth I noticed when rereading the game where I was like "ah, this should help w/ associatives on hannah" but I forgot lmao. Seems pretty towny based on gut but I'm holding off on committing here until we get some associative reads on her. I feel like for hannah in particular those help out a lot. Tentative town-circle member.
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Leaves 5 people in my current poe

Whydon/ZestOfLife
Lol

apricity
I'm hearing a lot of townreads on hal (hannah/dusk mostly?) but I'm not really a fan and closer to null. He was the 3rd vote (always scum guys, the wiki told me so) on mewtwo and first made it relevant. He then spent most of the day on a vanity wagon before hopping over to Marth which was a coward vote. I expect better from hal than this is what I'm saying. Other reason I have him down here is that clearing him would leave me with the team that's one of Caf/Clar + Whydon + Zest which just seems like such a fucking cop out. If I'm not being a coward and forcing myself to include a second active besides Caf/Clar he's by far the most sensible choice
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CaffeineBoost/Clarinet
I think today's lynch is always in here. If either flips scum, I'm clearing the other until F3/4 and if either flips town I'm tunnelling the other the day after.

to me it’s clarinet/caffeine with a strong preference for caffeine

Still kinda confused as to why it's a Clarinet vs Caffeine situation here. More specifically, why it's a "one must be scum" situation. Ofc Clarinet and Caff have both been scummy but I still don't see why it's between these two specifically.

cheer for us, Mew! Let's hope we strike gold with today's wagon

Melting, this is too cute.

most town

Duskfall98
Athena_57
Samoyed
XnadrojX
apricity
Hannahh
Clarinet
CaffeineBoost
Whydon

least town

back to hibernation for birthday celebrating things

Happy birthday ty for doing at least 1 more thing than ZoL, looking forward to more indepth reads

Ok well I’m not dealing with this game anymore today wtf

Hello, town Hal.

I have one more post to quote but I need to read up and see all Caff / Clarinet posts again to really think more about it. Being dragged out to dinner now so I'll be back in like an hour to two hours hopefully, deadline is tomorrow right?

 

[Hannahh]

I guess the only significant parts of that are: Why Caff vs Samo, and this is Hal's town meta.

 

[vooper]

hannah/hal arent a team together btw

 

[Athena_57]

Still kinda confused as to why it's a Clarinet vs Caffeine situation here. More specifically, why it's a "one must be scum" situation. Ofc Clarinet and Caff have both been scummy but I still don't see why it's between these two specifically.

Basically, everyone thinks one of them / both are the scummiest people itg, but they don't really make sense as partners. For me it's the D1 Clarinet vote from Caffeine I don't see the latter making as buddy bc the timing makes no sense as a busvote. So this leaves us w/ a likely town vs scum scenario where we have a good chance to hit scum + by flipping one of them we get a lot closer to solving the other

 

[vooper]

whoever can explain to me what is revealed about setup rn gets 5 good boy points from me

 

[Athena_57]

whoever can explain to me what is revealed about setup rn gets 5 good boy points from me

I wanna be a good boi

All town pr's are gone except a bodyguard (claimed by sam)
Scum has 2 prs from the table in op, bat from what i recall they dont matter anymore w/ the pr's outed

 

[Athena_57]

well ig they can block the bodyguard if they have a hook but sam prolly gets nk'd so shrug

 

[vooper]

cool thanks

 

[Samoyed]

ye I’m gettin nked tonight

 

[apricity]

Were in mountainous

 

[Athena_57]

Hannahh Could you plonk down a vote / give a lynch preference when you come back?

 

[CaffeineBoost]

Now to get to business with Day 2.

it would be nice however if clarinet would explicitly claim

tp can go on clarinet if they claim

if ur vt why did you soft hard as fuck yesterday

Right here Sam seems to be baiting Clarinet into claiming BG? The setup forbids any other role to be claimed here and Sam's the BG... am I getting this right?

also I’m kinda sus of Athena because them ooing and ahhing at the end of yesterday and saying “oooooooohhhgg ugghhhhh i don’t want to lynch either of them” feels like an attempt to almost clear themselves when they both flip town

Tbf the best lynch according to them that day had just softclaimed. Neither of Clarinet's alternatives were a good lynch so I can see why Athena would be hesitant to lynch either of them.

my intention was to offer vague alarm so that I won't be lynched D1

This makes no sense. Why did you feel the need to stay alive if you're a VT?

Why don't you like me? I can see the shift at EoD being sketchy but I've already explained the reasoning behind my vote.

i like clarinet now

I think that Caffeine is a great push for today

Could you at least tell me why?

swoop

7 pages in and this game feels easy

obligatory for that eod1 and n1 flips

regret

Vooper subs in for ZoL here. Anybody know if ZoL quits as scum or town or what? These posts don't tell me anything about Vooper.

Not that it would’ve helped me since I was gone at eod1, but bluedoom never claimed right?

He didn't claim iirc.

Ah

I think I know why DS was killed. Think scum was trying to cop hunt. Hm

Tracker was lynched so it certainly isn't a cop hunt.

Pages 30-31 in general solidify Hal and Jordan as town.

I’m the Bodyguard

This went uncc'd so Sam is confirmed town. This also confirms Clarinet as scum.

I think the confirmed town aka Samoy should decide today's lynch

You're literally only saying this because that means you wouldn't be lynched.

My current readlist is this:

Tier List of Reads

Hal's town meta is bleeding into this game. As a result he's a tr. Nadroj has similarly shown themselves to be invested in the game as town but I don't really have much experience playing with them so I'm not confident enough to say they're a town read just yet.
Sam moved up and has a nice yellow circle around his picture because he's the confirmed bodyguard.
Viper hasn't done anything to convince me he's town or scum.

Right now the POE I'd suggest is: Clarinet, Dusk, Viper, Whydon. Maybe swap Viper and Whydon depending on how they act later.

 

[Fenrir Aesir]

Votecount 2.2
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CaffeineBoost (4)- Clarinet, Samoyed, Athena_57, apricity
Clarinet (3)- Duskfall98, CaffeineBoost, XnadrojX
Not Voting (3)- Whydon, vooper, Hannahh

Deadline is 26 May, 2019 at 6:00 PM EST.

 

[Tommy]

Ok I am fairly drunk rn so I'm not gonna try solve but it looks like this vote is gonna be between caff and clarinet both of which are in my poe which is pretty good. Rn I do prefer clarinet as my vote indicates but can you both just tell me what you think of each other. I think you bit scumread the other person, but please explain why and your progression.

Secondary to this what possible partners do you think the other person has because I think that is important when deciding if someone is scum or playing bad. I feel it's still not too late to push elsewhere, do try your best to explain your worldview imo rather than just looking town and saving yourself. Try to help town as best you can.

The answers will help sober Tommy s lot tommorow. Thank you!

 

[Clarinet]

Ok, I can give you a sexy partner if Caffeine is scum

XnadrojX

 

[Clarinet]

they have an advantage because they juggled with 3 town wagons EOD1 and this makes it difficult to say how many scum were on each person, I've looked at tallies, at 1 point there was only town on Mew

 

[Whydon]

I kinda think 70% of the time Hannah is mafia here tbh

 

[Hannahh]

AAAAAAA SORRY the unexpected nap struck again.

 

[apricity]

I kinda think 70% of the time Hannah is mafia here tbh

What