NOC 2OC2NOC - Day 7: Zorbees is Dead.

Refa nuxl is towniest natural tone person I have ever played this game with, consistently. So I can't read him off "sounding towny etc". You gotta read him off how much he tryhards to solve. As town he always tryhards, especially d1 and he will actively interrogate before he makes a read on pretty much anyone. There's no such thing as making a read without interacting with people usually, and he as done that here, so to me his reads seem fake and aren't built on the grounds that he usually would build a read, if he was town. I am reading him on meta here, so I get it is hard to see, but this doesn't seem like town nuxl at all to me.
 
I don't think lynching two of nuxl/hal/duskfall today is a good idea, if we wait for night results we can both either pinpoint scum in that pool more accurately and probably get confirmation that mewtwo is town implicating scum and not scum going for a weird suicide mission to take those three out after texas got shot. Then again it doesnt seem like there are any other lynches being discussed here ? That pool seems to have centralized discussion when as far as I can tell we could just leave it be until tomorrow. Not lynching inside the pool seems like the safest course of action by far, maybe lynch one today if you feel strongly about either of them but I don't really, besides Nuxl being a bit too spamposty.
 
Moody, I think voting or not voting in the trio comes down to "we actually have a lead in D1" vs. "but we don't have a catch". I'm with you in the latter camp because someone (might've been you?) made that point earlier, but I can understand why ppl outside the trio would want to grab onto that handhold.

Come to think of it...

Hitmonleet I still want an answer for what happens when lynch targets stack.

My train of thought is if we can stack wagons so that only one person dies, we can abuse that one days where our leads crap out and use double lynches on days we get catches.
 
I spent a while today assuming I was going to be voting Duskfall tbh until I got a better chance to read Nuxl's posts. They hold up in the sense of "yeah, this seems logical to do" but I agree that their posts are uninspired. In general I get the vibes of like, Nuxl knows that he's dead here, so he knows the optimal play is killing Duskall and Apricity first, but he doesn't have the energy to be motivated because he knows he's not getting out of it. I feel like this explains his posts in general? There's a world where town Nuxl arrives at the same votes, but I don't see the like... process behind it so it's hard to assume he's acting in good faith.

Refa I can't really explain where my initial Tommy read came from rn. Choose you're own role games are too much of a trip. That being said I think you're kinda working on faulty logic here (see above for why scum might want to lynch in the pool, it isn't clear cut). Idt you're scummy for it but I think you're overly focused on a disagreement here over actually scummy stuff.

Unlynch (all)
Lynch 1 Nuxl
Lynch 2 shubaka17
 
Panic Station said:
Moody, I think voting or not voting in the trio comes down to "we actually have a lead in D1" vs. "but we don't have a catch". I'm with you in the latter camp because someone (might've been you?) made that point earlier, but I can understand why ppl outside the trio would want to grab onto that handhold.

Come to think of it...

Hitmonleet I still want an answer for what happens when lynch targets stack.

My train of thought is if we can stack wagons so that only one person dies, we can abuse that one days where our leads crap out and use double lynches on days we get catches.
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If a lynch is on a player who would be dead at the time of its resolution, then it will move on to whoever received the most votes, with ties killing multiple players at once. The previous statement on having random resolution was a mistake that was not intended.
 
Duskfall98 said:
1) He has almost 100 posts without attempting to gamesolve even once, I can appreciate some meming, I do it myself, but you have to try at least a little

2) He is usually a lot more innocent in tone as town, there is absolute none of that here

3) Tbz, who is in my towncore, and should be in yours says he is scum, and tbz should have the best read on OM in the game considering how much they have played together

4) He voted in the trio twice, without really considering options, and managed to not hit the one guy I think is most likely to be scum, making it likely they are partners, it doesnt help his reasoning for voting me and hal was nearly non existent and created after the act of actually voting us seemingly
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oh I absolutely missed this my bad

1) He has almost 100 posts without attempting to gamesolve even once, I can appreciate some meming, I do it myself, but you have to try at least a little

You're no fun. Fine.

2) He is usually a lot more innocent in tone as town, there is absolute none of that here

This is a shift in personality.

3) Tbz, who is in my towncore, and should be in yours says he is scum, and tbz should have the best read on OM in the game considering how much they have played together

Tbz sucks at reading me

4) He voted in the trio twice, without really considering options, and managed to not hit the one guy I think is most likely to be scum, making it likely they are partners, it doesnt help his reasoning for voting me and hal was nearly non existent and created after the act of actually voting us seemingly

"created after the act of actually voting us seemingly"

rude. just bc it's badly explained doesn't mean it's not there >:(

zorbees said:
according to caffeine, both caffeine and om room targeted tbz so uh....
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Nah dude he targetted me. Info that really shouldn't have been out by now but caffeine wants me dead.
 
Ok can someone explain the caffeine/om role interaction I am really confused with what happened. I thought om redirected caffeine to himself or something?
 
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